And We Were All Overreacting Over BLM?

So, a black guy said it. You have no idea how many people believe it or whether it’s a belief exclusively held by black people. Yet you feel comfortable saying, “It’s American black people’s idea of Africa”. It’s like seeing a white supremacist at a Trump rally and saying, “it’s Trump supporters idea of race”. Hopefully you can see why sweeping generalizations are unproductive.

Context matters. When you say, “Italians invented pizza”, it’s understood that the expression means the inventors of pizza were Italian.

Kente cloth (taken from Ashanti who enslaved their ancestors and sold to European slave traders), the Pan-African flag…Obviously, this naive interpretation of Africa divorced from reality is pretty widespread otherwise it wouldn’t have been such a part of AA culture.

Or take the example of the woke high priest Henry Rogers, who changed his name to “Ibram Xolani Kendi”, appropriating trappings of cultures thousands of miles apart on the continent, or in the case of his name and middle name, from two (tribal/ethnic) groups (Zulu and Xhosa) that are at each other throats for hundreds of years.

Saying misappropriated traditions can be found among African American culture is one thing. Saying, “American blacks” don’t know there are cities in Africa is something else.

Eddie Murphy didn’t know until he made Coming to America.

He also had sex with trannies so I’m guessing he subscribes to BLM.

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This right here is what I’ve been alluding to regarding there currently being no common good. That is, we as a society do not have a collective interest in stopping kids as young as eight years old seeing highly sexualized images or even violent, degrading pornography.

I likely should see how this whole thread is going, and exactly check out what things you’re speaking about specifically, but your post happened to be the first that my eyes first glanced upon and there seems to be a common theme in this day and age of absolutely no social contract, no common good.

I am asking you, in all seriousness, why I am not the slightest bit responsible in protecting children in this world when I can? Though I cannot love and care for other children the way I do for my own children, I have a moral obligation to consider the well being of children generally. We’ll see the outcome of future generations even if this American society continues to feel they have no obligation from preventing sexual abuse of children. And children seeing violence and pornography or other images of a sexualized nature is abusive and shapes their mind in maladaptive ways. That, and many start to mimic what they see, and take on a completely maladaptive view on sex and treatment of other human beings.

EDITED/ADDENDUM: Following rant is not to you specifically.

This post isn’t necessarily aimed at you, and neither is what I am saying here. So if anyone wants to chime in for general discussion, go ahead.

I have recently gotten this sense that there are many people in American society, certainly not all, who for some reason or other, wish to see harm done to other, including their children. I believe this goes for many media people actually, including porn people considering that, if I recall correctly, one Tube site, had an advertisement aimed at young people in which it was alluded that one can view more porn during a lockdown, home from school and work.

Even in some serious conversations, which I tend to avoid at social gatherings, but sometimes slip or get dragged into because people love them these days, my wife and I have observed that others seem to take a sort of pleasure in suggesting things that put others on edge or are of a coercive nature (eg, you must accept this; you have no choice). That is, people will ask if a certain potential spouse will be accepted into the family one will likely see as a bad addition to the family or an inappropriate fit; will ask one how they will respond if a child has precocious sex, does drugs, or simply turns out to be in a way not to their liking or expectations.

No, no… heaven forbid these days, someone suggests to another parent something embodying joyful visions, like:

“I see your son is good with his hands/numbers/science/words/spatial awareness. Maybe one day he will be a tradesman/engineer/doctor/lawyer/professor. May he have prosperity and achievement.”

“Your daughter is so sweet and pretty. Maybe she will make a great home and give you some great grandchildren.”

“I see you have such well-behaved, sweet kids. They are beautiful. Maybe one day they will meet a nice woman/man and make a beautiful family.”

“Hey Brick, you have spoken about how your dad was a negligent bum. May you love and guide your kids in the right direction. It’s your turn to sacrifice your time and energy.”

Instead many people have chosen to conspire in a sort of psychological coercion by supplying moral support to an aggressive movement that intends to propagandize and warp children and people minding their business.

And a sort of game is being played here too, in which people will say, “Don’t like it, don’t watch or attend,” only to then say to people after shielding children from it that they’re close-minded and that their children will not be “exposed”.

The term “exposed” is another kicker and there are two people in my life who frequently use it. They refer to my wife’s friendly, practicing Christian, tri-lingual, talented and intelligent cousin. They say she’s not “exposed” but then when I have asked them what she hasn’t been exposed to, they can’t answer with one damn thing that will lend to her life satisfaction or well-being, profession, future family, nothing. They give a vague line like “she might not be able to relate to others,” or “have a hard time fitting in,” when meanwhile I think just the opposite considering what a great person she is. I find myself saying the exact opposite “Why not befriend this woman?” But then my reason kicks in, I think of what I just discussed, and I know damn well what they mean by exposed: drugs, promiscuity, angry and angst-laden people, destructive subcultures, and sexualities that are completely alien to her psychological makeup.

Then there are those people who talk about all this goddamn freedom when they don’t want themselves or their children with such freedom. They’ll talk about free will, freedom of choice, freedom to do drugs, freedom for this, freedom for that, “turn it off”, while leaving all this misdirection and libertinism for others! That is, they’ll say “I have no problem with X” even though they’ll be damned if their children do X, or become X! In fact, many of them do their damnedest to have their kids never even think of or see X.

Much results are in for this collective lack of social good or obligation, horrible outcomes: out-of-wedlock births, increased abortion, decreasing marriage rates, increased mental illness and suicide, impaired pair bonding, low-investment parenting (lending to all the above), and all sorts of maladjustments we see today. Maybe we should all keep testing the waters until the next generation is simply a bunch of lizard-brained bums who can only think of their next high, sexual encounter, their troubled feelings, anger at a “society” (which really means normal people minding their business), and so on.

Again, I responded to you but it turned into a generalized rant, because this is how I see it these days: an aggression on ordinary people, especially those with children.

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Amen to pretty much all of that Brick!

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This isn’t what I meant in my post. I’m saying trans people and drag queens should be allowed the same rights as everybody else. They should be allowed in the public, and it is the parents responsibility to not go in public with their children if they don’t want them to see it.

People project their shortcomings onto others. The people knocking your cousin know they don’t measure up in comparison, so they’re looking for a reason to knock her down a peg. It’s really the same instinct that causes people to take cheap shots a others’ kids. Humans have deep instinct to protect their self image. This has been my observation at least.

Careful with all that talk about common good and collective best interest. You might get called a Marxist in these parts :wink:

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So it’s acceptable that taxpayers are funding transsexual propaganda directed at children at the local library? What if it was a Nazi story time instead, does the same apply? Is there no ideology that is inherently inappropriate for children?

I think that’s what this is. (Wife’s cousin, by the way.) For various reasons for which discussion can be extremely lengthy, many Americans have become vice-laden and maladaptive. I keep using the latter word but I see it as the most fitting and I can say from personal experience that some things that people think are acceptable and promote, damaged me in the past too!

And I think because many are so damaged and have not progressed (actual progress, like, oh, a profession, family, financial stability, friends, spirituality and religion, etc.) at ideal rates, they’ve taken on roles glorious losers! And I don’t mean that in a derogatory way, as in losers being unpopular, uncool, hopeless, etc. (I was once a glorious loser too, I believe.) So, because they know solid people are leaving them behind and don’t suffer from the same type of constant mental conflicts they do, they suggest things that I believe will lead to what I refer to as the three D’s: destruction, despair, death! That’s why in conversation they suggest things that make the solid person with standards cringe and become uncomfortable and disheartened (eg, What if you’re kid…? If you do that, your kids won’t have exposure to or know about X.)

People with actual stability and achievement (modest as that may be) do not mention such. The others constantly talk about everyone’s right to happiness (eg, do whatever makes them feel good) versus the former who actually DID something for true happiness, which is life satisfaction.

Sorry if my posts are lengthy but I’ve thought about this a bit recently.

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I know. I might run into some rugged or radical individualists who think the world is billions of people whose actions have no consequences on others unless you put upon someone else in the most flagrant manner.

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Do you see transsexual acceptance as propaganda? And comparable to being a nazi?

TBF, if it’s announced ahead of time, people who do not wish to participate can choose to either avoid or protest…that goes both ways.

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Nice strawman. I already said I don’t support a drag queen only library hour. However, if it is open hour to read to children, then I don’t see why we would restrict them from reading. IMO, most young kids are not going to understand what is going on anyways.

Au contraire, morality is a bourgeois notion.

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Another outstanding post Brick.

Children do not need to be “exposed” to anything randomly. The brain does not complete development until the early to mid 20s, and young children (or teens) without guidance on how to process things they are not developed enough to process get harmed. The intention doesn’t matter, this is the fact of mental development and one reason parents are so critical.

EDIT–should go without saying that I also do not approve of sheltering kids excessively: they will lack the ability to process the world when they get to college if they are not developing the ability before then.

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I see propaganda as propaganda. It’s comparable to the Nazis in that I wouldn’t send my kids to an event involving either.

But are you alright with your taxes funding this?

Except it’s not, it’s an event to expose children to transsexuals in an attempt to normalize this sort of behavior.

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Transgenderism and homosexuality do not belong with pedothilia as something that can’t be explained to children. That’s ridiculous and I’ve got to ask how you explain heterosexuality to kids, do you give them a blow by blow account? Is it like the sex ed class in Monty python?

Here’s how I explained homosexuality.
“You know how I love your mum, well some dad’s love other dad’s.” That’s it.

I sure you know all this so I wonder why you posted what you did? Is it based in your religious beliefs? I do agree in some of your post, I don’t want kids growing up too fast but topics can be made age appropriate very easily.

As someone who has worked with people who have been human trafficked, sexually exploited and had death threats for their sexuality I think no education is very harmful.

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You are not arguing against me. You are arguing against a position I haven’t taken. I have said numerous times that I don’t think we should have a drag queen only reading hour. I did say if they have an open reading hour where people can read to kids, that gay, trans, drag queen should be allowed to read to kids just like anyone else.