Are you implying that the right is stable, and informed? Bear in mind that the right, only a few months ago, decided that their only platform was whatever their stable genius leader DJT says. haha.
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Iāve seen enough of your posts to know you suffer from TDS. That saidā¦ Itās not the right calling for these psychotic anti police measures that will only harm the same minorities these unhinged derelicts claim to care about so much. The right has itās share of idiots to be sure, but ffs the left has largely gone bat shit crazy and are increasingly unhinged. Againā¦ In this context, itās the unstable left calling for moronic measures that will only further the divide between police and the citizenry.
Emotional incontinence, bigotry, hate, projection, self loathing, selective outrage and a clear lack of principles are all hallmarks of the contemporary left. They destroy everything. A cancer.
Ding! Ding! Ding! You want the large teddy bear on the top shelf, or the jack-knife?
100% I agree. It sucks to be a cop under normal circumstances. Now itās magnified by a factor of a million. Itās not unnoticed, certainly by me. That at the end of the day, human beings matter, their lives, their well being and their feelings do matter. And cops are as human as anyone else and the cruelty and nastiness, not to even get into the utter violence and murder being directed at them (you).
But there is still a problem. For instance, see the attached picture.
What I am asking is as a cop, can you refuse to do stuff like this? I assume you take an oath to uphold the law, but what happens when there is a contradiction in the law and itās left up to the powers-that-be to decide their personal pet projects. Canāt you say something like āI took an oath to the law, not power hungry politicians, I am not enforcing that bullshit.ā Or do you just follow orders and thatās it, no say so.
I am betting many of the cops in these pictures donāt want to be there, but their they are. Similarly, these were the same guys āstanding downā while stores are getting looted and destroyed.
You see how this doesnāt look good?
I get it, itās bad enough to be a cop right now. But this looks bad, really bad. There are unspeakable crimes going on all over NY at that minute, but the cops are there to close a restaurant that just wantās to make a buck, instead.
I know itās bad enough as it is, but where is the line for a cop? When do they finally say āWe arenāt doing thisā?
EDIT: To be specific, I am asking for your perspective, your opinion on the matter.
You think TDS has anything to do with bringing up that article as an example of the right being just as unhinged? Id think anyone with half a brain would be outraged (or maybe just numb at this point?).
Says the guy who a few posts earlier highlighted how negative, destructive language from the left against cops is a big reason why cops donāt want to listen or work with the left. Pot, meet kettle.
Shitty, deragatory language is unproductive and mean for the sake of being mean. Youāve been on the receiving end of a whole helluva lot of vile hateful chants, slurs and insults im sure. Donāt stoop down to that level in response, or you risk being perceived as equals with those people. I get that your online presence here is a pressure release of sorts, but what you say on here does reflect on how your profession is perceived.
Luckily im not tasked with that bullshit. If enough guys refused to enforce it they might be forced to change course. Its just a really tough situation to be in. The authoritarian left only seems to want to destroy everything. Most mayors / governors pushing this are leftist loons.
Language asideā¦ The left operates in an alternate reality void of facts, demonstrable reality and viable solutions. Pot meet kettle ? Ok, buddy. Iāve done my part. The left will make this worse by an order of magnitude. Watch.
@marine77 I know youāre in the middle of it right now so you donāt need to answer. Iāve seen the affects of rioting on Leo and Iāve been uniformed services myself.
Youāve mentioned your hate for the left so Iām not trying to catch you out. What Iām interested in knowing from you is what youāve seen in other countries that might work in USA law enforcement to help resolve this tension. Youāve mentioned bodycams, which I think are good for everyone, is there anything else? Different policy?
Iām just wondering as there is tension and every country goes through it at some point. Iām just applying success leaves clues which this forum loves.
Well, I was hoping for more. I wanted to get a sense of the culture, what your buddies and shit also think. I understand your in swat which is really cool, BTW.
Let me through you a hypothetical. Say ANTIFA and the Proud Boys are squaring off. For the sake of the argument, weāll say ANTIFA is throwing things at them and goading them into a fight and your supervisor tells you to arrest the Proud Boys agitators but not ANTIFA, what would you do?
But they will call the cops if the neighborās dog shitās in their yard in a half second. Not just the cops, they dial 911, which is for emergencies only.
No supervisor would do that as theyāve committed no crime in your scenario. Oddly we donāt have the Soytifa problem here. Or PB.
lolā¦ Youāre a tough nut to crack. Well, I will leave it at that then. Here is where I am. I support the 12 with all due respect. But I do not like it when they protect BLM portraits while people are getting raped in subways. And I donāt know who to blame for that. But itās a job and your lively hood is at stake as well, I just wouldnāt mind a little civil disobedience on the part of cops when it comes to politically driven, unconstitutional edicts from mayor and governors.
And I wonāt be polite or nice if a cop ājust doing his jobā shows up to my house to collect my guns because some DA or governor has a bug up their ass. I would expect you feel pretty much the same given your views on things. I guess I was just trying to slice the onion a bit to thin.
There you go, donāt really support the law, cops or public health. Just your viewpoint.
Iāve only ever been in an infantry role overseas, but have seen other police orgs bust heads without much provocation. Scary and not ok by me, but different culture and all.
Americans have it incredibly soft here by comparison. Very very few āprotestersā are harmed in comparison to police when things get violent.
No officer I know, have ever known or have ever heard of would be ok confiscating law abiding citizensā firearms. Aināt happening.
Also, no leo is standing by watching a rape while simultaneously protecting a BLM portraitā¦That I guranfuckingteeeee bahahahaahhaah.
You gotta remember we stand to lose our livelihoods, get doxxed by weirdos, lose our pensions and benefits, etcā¦ if we fail to act or act and f#ck up even when done in good faith. Itās just a very tough call, man.
Donāt forget we typically get pressured into doing shit that makes no fucking sense.
Yes. And it goes for teachers as well. Stop putting the burden of curing social ills on people who, when all is said and done, have no real power to fix them.
The rapist, you dummy.
Thatās the impression Iām getting. However, itās your first statement that has me sitting on the fence whenever police brutality is being alleged because if it were anywhere in Asia, Iād completely believe it so do understand that when I approach this subject cautiously without taking sides.
I honestly donāt have a problem with cops since no one fucks with me nowadays. I just want to understand whatās happening in the US more because everyone here(where I live) is talking about it every single fucking day.
But hereās the thing that you might be glad to hear about. While people here and around the ASEAN region do have a bad impression of cops in general, civil disobedience is a lot more frowned upon so theyāre actually supporting the cops in the US, which I understand doesnāt make much sense but thatās the way it is. Which is why BLM, even if itās a legit movement, is losing itās credibility.
I canāt tell if you think I am.
I think policing and justice systems are a very interesting area both at the large scale of policy all the way to the individual level when a person interacts with another. Not quite on the same topic but thereās a great documentary on Netflix called breaking the cycle and prison systems in Norway and America.
Thanks for replying. Law enforcement and the justice system from country to country is so varied. The UK hasnāt worked out if we want our justice system to be punitive or rehabilitative. So we do both badly.
Brutality is quite subjective. It happens. I donāt like that it does. As a person of principle it bugs me; however, we have far too many people that donāt want to afford us the right to self preservation no matter the circumstances. How do we square that ?
Itās not nearly as bad as our vermin media claim. Tens of millions of police / citizen encounters a year of which @ 1000 end up in the death of a citizen. Of those, iirc @ 90 % were armed or violently assaulting police. The media, self loathing white ethno masochists and cunts like Lebron act like theyāre being hunted down. How pathetically stupid. But how do we actually āfightā a psychotic narrative like that ?
