…I would have no problem with a few having the legal authority to rule others.[/quote]
Not exactly how the quote goes.[/quote]
If you were quoting someone, you should have used quotation marks…and finished the quote. I could then point out how ridiculous it is to claim that men are not angels, so government is needed, so that men can rule other men-notice how men do not become angels at any point in the quote.[/quote]
I take it you never studied US history. James Madison.
Not the same thing. Asking someone to actively aid in the commission of a sin is different than providing a cake. [/quote]
Um, homosexual marriage is a sin in Christianity…
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Baking a cake for a gay wedding is not a sin. It isn’t helping a sin as the wedding can take place regardless.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
I take it you never studied US history. James Madison. [/quote]
I knew the quote wasn’t complete, so obviously, I have heard it(and I knew who said it, though that’s not as obvious). Can you explain why the same men who are not angels should be ruled by other men who are not angels?
Not the same thing. Asking someone to actively aid in the commission of a sin is different than providing a cake. [/quote]
Um, homosexual marriage is a sin in Christianity…
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Baking a cake for a gay wedding is not a sin. It isn’t helping a sin as the wedding can take place regardless.[/quote]
Christians are not to participate in any way with the blaspheming of a Sacrament.
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I really don’t want to turn this into another gay marriage thread but I have a question: should a pastor/bishop/priest who believes gay marriage to be a sin be required under penalty of law to professionally officiate at a gay wedding?
If your answer is no then tell me why the baker is different from the pastor.
Andy, let’s start with you.[/quote]
Do churches follow the same laws as other public businesses? I’m not sure the comparison is valid. Businesses are generally open to the public which are what the discrimination laws are for, are mormon temples like that? It’s more of an invite only thing vs all free to come in, unless we say no.[/quote]
Doesn’t have to be in a church building.
Let’s say the gay couple wanted a wedding down by the riverside 100 miles away from the nearest church. So they call Pastor John F Humpenstickenstein from the Calvary Baptist Church or Father Joe W PeterThouArtMyRock from the Catholic diocese and request he perform the vows. If the men refuse to do so on the grounds of immorality should District Attorney Richard S ConstitutionBeDamned step in and file charges against them?
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
I really don’t want to turn this into another gay marriage thread but I have a question: should a pastor/bishop/priest who believes gay marriage to be a sin be required under penalty of law to professionally officiate at a gay wedding?
If your answer is no then tell me why the baker is different from the pastor.
Andy, let’s start with you.[/quote]
Do churches follow the same laws as other public businesses? I’m not sure the comparison is valid. Businesses are generally open to the public which are what the discrimination laws are for, are mormon temples like that? It’s more of an invite only thing vs all free to come in, unless we say no.[/quote]
Doesn’t have to be in a church building.
Let’s say the gay couple wanted a wedding down by the riverside 100 miles away from the nearest church. So they call Pastor John F Humpenstickenstein from the Calvary Baptist Church or Father Joe W PeterThouArtMyRock from the Catholic diocese and request he perform the vows. If the men refuse to do so on the grounds of immorality should District Attorney Richard S ConstitutionBeDamned step in and file charges against them?
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Nope[/quote]
But if he has a side business making wedding cakes…Bwaha!
Not the same thing. Asking someone to actively aid in the commission of a sin is different than providing a cake. [/quote]
Um, homosexual marriage is a sin in Christianity…
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Baking a cake for a gay wedding is not a sin. It isn’t helping a sin as the wedding can take place regardless.[/quote]
Christians are not to participate in any way with the blaspheming of a Sacrament.
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But is that participating? It’s a business transaction. Besides, we have the example of Jesus and the Centurion.
Not the same thing. Asking someone to actively aid in the commission of a sin is different than providing a cake. [/quote]
Um, homosexual marriage is a sin in Christianity…
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Not all denominations. [/quote]
Those aren’t Christian. They’re spiritualists who for whatever reason still dig the Christian window-dressing (music, imagery, whatever). Christ himself defined marriage as between man and woman. And homosexual acts are disparaged in both New and Old Testament.
Not the same thing. Asking someone to actively aid in the commission of a sin is different than providing a cake. [/quote]
Um, homosexual marriage is a sin in Christianity…
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Not all denominations. [/quote]
Those aren’t Christian. They’re spiritualists who for whatever reason still dig the Christian window-dressing (music, imagery, whatever). Christ himself defined marriage as between man and woman. And homosexual acts are disparaged in both New and Old Testament.
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Marriage is not a sexual act.
Why are you trolling? If you’re not interested in what Christianity actually teaches about a subject, why did you act as if you had knowledge about it?
What were Christ’s words about marriage? That is the Christian’s definition.
Not your silly /wink, /wink “Who says the two homosexuals are planning on having sex? Huh? Huh?”
