Its a good rule in politics to assume that anything that appears in the public spectrum is merely the tip of the iceberg. Given the statements made by Barack Obama’s religious minister and spiritual guide, and statements made by Mrs. Obama, can we conclude that Obama actually HATES America? Being a Muslim and secretly holding a profound hatred of America, could Obama be an Al Qaeda plant?
Now, Obama has very powerful supporters among the powerful and the media. Are they in on something? Is Al Qaeda just a prop created by the global elite to keep us in fear and darkness?
'The precise source of the leak remains unknown. Government officials declined to be interviewed about the circumstances on the record, but they did not challenge Katz’s version of events. They also said the incident had no effect on U.S. intelligence-gathering efforts and did not diminish the government’s ability to anticipate attacks.
While acknowledging that SITE had achieved success, the officials said U.S. agencies have their own sophisticated means of watching al-Qaeda on the Web. “We have individuals in the right places dealing with all these issues, across all 16 intelligence agencies,” said Ross Feinstein, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence."
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
You’re starting to sound like JustTheFscts and Sn00 without the jew hate.[/quote]
You’re quite intelligent and I really mean that; I’m not be condescending or anything like that.
Read the following scenarios and tell me what you think.
A student who makes C’s his whole year in Precalc suddenly makes A’s on every test. Did some sort of magic happen or has he found a way to cheat me without being detected?
A young man gets out of the Army and is penniless. He has no skills and no education. A few years later (14), he becomes the leader of the great nation and turns said nation into a dictatorship. He almost conquers the world. Now, did he have help or did he do this all by himself?
A young man becomes an Illinois Senator. With very little experience in any sort of leadership, he is on the verge of becoming the leader of the most powerful nation on earth. Is this because of his eloquence or are powerful people helping him, and if so why?
How does someone who has never been a leader become the top leader? That’s like a random person being chosen to be Head Coach at Ohio State Football. How likely is that? If that would NEVER happen, how can an unknown get the top job in the USA?
No. There is no conspiracy here. Between a trisomic looking warmonger and a psychotic bitch, Obama is rightly perceived as a breath of fresh air. You have to keep in mind that this are times when the American disatisfaction towards their government is soaring.
For the past quarter of century, the White House has been occupied by lobbyists for Big Business. Add to that the catastrophic record of Dubya and the very serious economical crisis cooking in the US, and you might understand why a pretty boy from Illinois is getting so much popularity.
If Al-Qaeda was in the White House, they would probably have approved of Bush’s policies.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
You’re starting to sound like JustTheFscts and Sn00 without the jew hate.
You’re quite intelligent and I really mean that; I’m not be condescending or anything like that.
Read the following scenarios and tell me what you think.
A student who makes C’s his whole year in Precalc suddenly makes A’s on every test. Did some sort of magic happen or has he found a way to cheat me without being detected?
[/quote]Or he suddenly found a way to understand the material, or whatever new unit you’re in was easier to him, or his parents cracked down on him. It all depends on the kind of kid he is; lazy, struggling, or a punk.
Of course he had help. And how did he get that help? Charisma and leadership qualities perhaps? That doesn’t forgive the person, but as well, this doesn’t mean the help didn’t come from a reputable source.
Maybe he did have leadership experience. Try years of working as a community organizer. Maybe he is appealing to a disenfranchised and jaded public looking for a fresh and idealist face. Maybe he has shit-loads of charisma, and a great speech writer. If powerful people are helping him… powerful people help EVERY politician become president. They can’t fix elections though (at least I’d like to think so). They can only convince a bunch of people their guy is the right guy.
Err… this kind of thing happens all the time. Especially when a nation is INCREDIBLY jaded with its current set of politicians. The man got up at the Democratic convention and half the nation fell in love with his words. He’s young, and supposedly “untouched” by Washington bullshit. Whether that is true or not, he certainly grasps a lot of appeal because of it. The people of America feel they’ve been ignored, by the current administration and by Congress. They feel Obama isn’t a part of the group that “ignored” them.
Fuck, I’m probably voting McCain, but Obama isn’t a part of a giant conspiracy. WTF happened to Hilary and the Rothschilds by the way? Wasn’t she supposed to win with all those globalizing, power hungry, socialists backing her? Apparently they aren’t THAT powerful, now are they…
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I think Americans have about a hundred years to go before they’ll accept a black man elected President, even a phony black man like Obama.
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But I thought we had already achieved mass equality in this country.
[quote]lixy wrote:
For the past quarter of century, the White House has been occupied by lobbyists for Big Business. [/quote]
And supporting business is bad? Big business is bad. very bad. No nation rises with a strong business climate. oops, except for the rise of the greatest, richest, most generous, most powerful nation in the world’s history.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Its a good rule in politics to assume that anything that appears in the public spectrum is merely the tip of the iceberg. Given the statements made by Barack Obama’s religious minister and spiritual guide, and statements made by Mrs. Obama, can we conclude that Obama actually HATES America? Being a Muslim and secretly holding a profound hatred of America, could Obama be an Al Qaeda plant?
Now, Obama has very powerful supporters among the powerful and the media. Are they in on something? Is Al Qaeda just a prop created by the global elite to keep us in fear and darkness?
'The precise source of the leak remains unknown. Government officials declined to be interviewed about the circumstances on the record, but they did not challenge Katz’s version of events. They also said the incident had no effect on U.S. intelligence-gathering efforts and did not diminish the government’s ability to anticipate attacks.
While acknowledging that SITE had achieved success, the officials said U.S. agencies have their own sophisticated means of watching al-Qaeda on the Web. “We have individuals in the right places dealing with all these issues, across all 16 intelligence agencies,” said Ross Feinstein, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence."
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How do you get any of your nonsensical rambling from that article?
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I think Americans have about a hundred years to go before they’ll accept a black man elected President, even a phony black man like Obama.
I’d still like to see it happen, though, just for the pleasure of being able to refer to America as “The Obamanation.”[/quote]
Headhunter, when I first saw your thread I
thought you were being facetious. Upon
further reflection, better not rule anything out. After being vilified for 50 yrs recently released cables show McCarthy
was right and Truman and the media were wrong. So, do we concede that where there’s
smoke there might be fire?
Here’s a question I posed 38 yrs ago when I
got back from Vietnam: Where did David Duke
come from? Klan papers were being thrown in my yard and I found it strange that 24 yr old grad student was taking over from
middle aged attorneys. Obviously someone
was pushing him forward for their own purposes. You may be correct that Obama
has a ventriloquist.
What about a campaign that can raise $55
million in one month from small contributors? $2300 limit I believe. Math-ematically possible but in these hard times when everyone’s strapped for cash? Could
somebody be “laundering” their donations?
Ten yrs ago I said Atlas Shrugged was the most over rated book I’d ever read. Lixy
has made me reconsider. If European devils
hadn’t exploited the diamond fields of Africa boys ther might be playing marbles with gem stones. If Brits and Americans
hadn’t stolen the mid east oil, Bin Laden would be herding goats and we’d all be
walking and burning whale oil. With all
the downside let’s consider the possibility that white heterosexual males may have contributed something to society after all.
Isn’t it odd that someone comes out of nowhere to get the top job? Clinton was governor of a small state, as was Carter in Georgia. Illinois is not a small state but it strikes me as odd that people magically appear.
I just find it interesting. Then, of course, you have to wonder if they are sock puppets.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Its a good rule in politics to assume that anything that appears in the public spectrum is merely the tip of the iceberg. Given the statements made by Barack Obama’s religious minister and spiritual guide, and statements made by Mrs. Obama, can we conclude that Obama actually HATES America? Being a Muslim and secretly holding a profound hatred of America, could Obama be an Al Qaeda plant?
Now, Obama has very powerful supporters among the powerful and the media. Are they in on something? Is Al Qaeda just a prop created by the global elite to keep us in fear and darkness?
'The precise source of the leak remains unknown. Government officials declined to be interviewed about the circumstances on the record, but they did not challenge Katz’s version of events. They also said the incident had no effect on U.S. intelligence-gathering efforts and did not diminish the government’s ability to anticipate attacks.
While acknowledging that SITE had achieved success, the officials said U.S. agencies have their own sophisticated means of watching al-Qaeda on the Web. “We have individuals in the right places dealing with all these issues, across all 16 intelligence agencies,” said Ross Feinstein, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence."
How do you get any of your nonsensical rambling from that article?[/quote]
I’m questioning why a source for info was compromised. On purpose, maybe? Are you willing to trust your government?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Its a good rule in politics to assume that anything that appears in the public spectrum is merely the tip of the iceberg. Given the statements made by Barack Obama’s religious minister and spiritual guide, and statements made by Mrs. Obama, can we conclude that Obama actually HATES America? Being a Muslim and secretly holding a profound hatred of America, could Obama be an Al Qaeda plant?
Now, Obama has very powerful supporters among the powerful and the media. Are they in on something? Is Al Qaeda just a prop created by the global elite to keep us in fear and darkness?
'The precise source of the leak remains unknown. Government officials declined to be interviewed about the circumstances on the record, but they did not challenge Katz’s version of events. They also said the incident had no effect on U.S. intelligence-gathering efforts and did not diminish the government’s ability to anticipate attacks.
While acknowledging that SITE had achieved success, the officials said U.S. agencies have their own sophisticated means of watching al-Qaeda on the Web. “We have individuals in the right places dealing with all these issues, across all 16 intelligence agencies,” said Ross Feinstein, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence."
How do you get any of your nonsensical rambling from that article?
I’m questioning why a source for info was compromised. On purpose, maybe? Are you willing to trust your government?
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And what does Obama have to do with it?
Do you propose a member of the Bush administration leaked this info in a plot to prop up Obama?
[quote]pookie wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
I think Americans have about a hundred years to go before they’ll accept a black man elected President, even a phony black man like Obama.
I’d still like to see it happen, though, just for the pleasure of being able to refer to America as “The Obamanation.”
Quite punny.
Obamanation.com seems to lead directly to pat36’s homepage.
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LOL! I dropped the ‘36’ silly. But I assume you are referring to the stance on abortion, which I do agree with, but when it comes to government, I a purely a secularist. I do not my religious influence on individuals in the government, but I do not support government sponsored religion nor religious special interest’s influence on the government.
In other words, if I were to come up with a politically based website, the word “Christian” would only be used in a self description, or a reference. It would not be the basis for my stances. I am not, nor will I ever be a member of a Christian Coalition.
When a source for info is compromised we are supposed to get up in arms and send somebody to prison even if Who’s Who In
America has already listed them as CIA.