What is actually considered a normal dosage? I read a lot of conflicting information.
“Bodybuilders consider a normal dose for a novice being 20-30mg’s per day when in fact 10 mg is more than enough for someone who never had used. Higher dosages not only lead to AR (Androgen Receptor) damage and HPTA suppression but also damages the liver being a 17α-alkylated. It is specially made 17α-alkylated because if it would not be then the liver would consider it a toxin and would destroy it.”
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
That exerpt wouldn’t be Bill Roberts’ writing by any chance would it? Style seems familiar.[/quote]
Possible. It came from Wikipedia. That’s why I figured I’d find out here. I figured 10mg a day seemed a bit suspect.
This is in the context of a three-week cycle stacked with D-Bol.
i.e. 60mg D-Bol ED stacked with ??mg Anavar ED/EOD for 21 days with 20mg Nolva ED for 21 days after (i.e. for PCT).
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
That exerpt wouldn’t be Bill Roberts’ writing by any chance would it? Style seems familiar.
Personally, since anavar is a class I, you should (IMO) run about the same dose as you would of test, i.e. 80-120mg ED.
That’s if you want to make real gains. If you’re looking for a little physique enhancement and/or aid to recovery, then I guess that10mg might indeed be enough, if one were a strong responder, that is.
Bushy[/quote]
As much as 120 a day Bushy? Isnt that trying to get somethibng out of var that isnt there - wouldnt it be more beneficial to use dbol, even tbol or just plain old test?
Or are the strength and hardness gains decent at that dose?
J
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
That exerpt wouldn’t be Bill Roberts’ writing by any chance would it? Style seems familiar.
Personally, since anavar is a class I, you should (IMO) run about the same dose as you would of test, i.e. 80-120mg ED.
That’s if you want to make real gains. If you’re looking for a little physique enhancement and/or aid to recovery, then I guess that10mg might indeed be enough, if one were a strong responder, that is.
Bushy[/quote]
80-120mg?! I guess you’re talking about alone and not paired with any other orals…
That is interesting to me Bushido bad boyee!!
How anabolic? Sorry for flogging a dead horse and the like, but how anaBOLICKK!!?
joe!
what about if you hold a shoe upto it? 
I’d say 50-75mg honestly.
I’m with Bushy. As part of a test cycle I recommend var at 60-80mg ED as a stand alone yeah it probably should be higher.
Who can afford it at 100mg ED plus; not me. Damn I cannot afford it at all plus I like dbol
Just to see whether I’ve been reading all this properly…
Would Oxandrolone (Anavar) and Stanozolol (Winstrol) be good to stack together?
I would assume that since Winstrol is Anabolic and Anavar is more Androgenic (correct me if I’m wrong) that putting the two together would be a fairly smart idea.
Yes? No?
Winstrol @ 60mg ED
Anavar @ 30mg ED
Run for 2 on / 2 off / 2 on / PCT
Now assuming that’s for a cutting cycle, would doing a D-Bol/Anavar Cycle to bulk prior be a good idea?
D-Bol @ 40mg ED
Anavar @ 60mg ED (?)
Run for 3 on / 2 off / 3 on / PCT / 3 off
Yes, this is for me. No, I’m not using AAS yet. Give it about 30lbs. I have to break 200 first.
Obviously you are looking for more information on an all oral cycle, correct?
[quote]JohnnyDangles wrote:
Obviously you are looking for more information on an all oral cycle, correct?[/quote]
Meh. I could go either way with the Anavar. This is all hypothetical for now.
EDIT: Spelling.
EDIT 2: Just to clear this up, I want to hit 200lbs with a decent bodyfat %. I then plan to bulk with AAS and then cut.
Am I expecting too much to want to be 200lbs fairly cut?
is there a reason for specifically no injects, cause bang for the buck u cant beat it.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
is there a reason for specifically no injects, cause bang for the buck u cant beat it.[/quote]
Right now? Availability. If I can find a source for some Test then I’ll jump all over that, but the only sources I have can’t provide anything apart from orals.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
What is actually considered a normal dosage? I read a lot of conflicting information.
“Bodybuilders consider a normal dose for a novice being 20-30mg’s per day when in fact 10 mg is more than enough for someone who never had used. Higher dosages not only lead to AR (Androgen Receptor) damage and HPTA suppression but also damages the liver being a 17α-alkylated. It is specially made 17α-alkylated because if it would not be then the liver would consider it a toxin and would destroy it.”[/quote]
10mg per day or 70mg total of Anavar per week would have similar effects of an HRT dose of testosterone. The ergogenic effects wouldn’t be worth it IMO. Doubling that dose at 20mg ED would probably be a better starting point.
Conversely, many athletes in the 60’s to 80’s used 10mg Dianabol per day as a boost for their training. It wasn’t extremely effective but it had results. I think most people would agree that 10mg Dianabol would be more effective than 10mg Anavar though.
I don’t agree with the androgen receptor damage.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
is there a reason for specifically no injects, cause bang for the buck u cant beat it.
Right now? Availability. If I can find a source for some Test then I’ll jump all over that, but the only sources I have can’t provide anything apart from orals.[/quote]
Ummm, if it were me, I’d be suspect of your source’s Anavar. If you’ve got a source for legit var, then you’ve got source for test.
[quote]Whoa! wrote:
Ummm, if it were me, I’d be suspect of your source’s Anavar. If you’ve got a source for legit var, then you’ve got source for test.[/quote]
Ha ha, nah it’s not that, he doesn’t have any available. So many people go to him he basically has to have a pre-order system in place.
Can I make a leap and possibly give my opinion on anavar. I could be totally wrong! So correct me if I am. I feel that…the first few weeks of using var brings the best results. MY theory is that the anavar is working in synergy with your natty test production, then as your natty test starts declining…so do the gains from the var.
Because anavar isn’t as good as testosterone, and it is replacing your natural test. For me…I found the best results were within the 3 week range, and after that I started to feel progressively crappier.