[quote]BRUCELEEWANNABE wrote:
It sounds like it will be ready once Christian’s routine comes out. But…there’s other great supps. out there.
USPlabs
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lulz
Yep, big props to Bill for honestly and clarity.
Ya mind if I ask ya how much Vitamin D3 ya take?
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Well they are hyping it on BB.com
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True, if by hyping you mean “Pooping all over it and Biotest, too”
Not much love for Biotest on the BB.com forums! And vice versa, of course.
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
I don’t think you can really blame Biotest for the over hyping. Up until recently, I had barely even heard of this supplement being mentioned EXCEPT for from its members. I’m not sure when it started initially, but there was a mention of this supplement in an article, a single mention. From that point on, everytime there was an announcement for a new supplement in production everyone was like “OMGZZZ iz diz da ANACONDA!!! Whenz will we have ANACONDA!!!” without even knowing what it was.
Even this very thread, which is only serving as more hype, was reposted by a member, as an answer to a question, from a member.
So I don’t really think any of you have a right to complain about Biotest while you’re doing the same thing. [/quote]
I was going to mention this, but got sidetracked writing my response.
Aside from CT’s latest posts, it sure seems like members have been talking about this product far more than the staff, but then again I may have missed an article or something.
Either way, some people seem hypersensitive about this. Like any company, I’m sure Biotest will release Anaconda when they’re ready. In the meantime it doesn’t bother me any more to read about it than it does to read about the possible 2012 STI or M3 or any other potential new product.
[quote]Wise Guy wrote:
Ya mind if I ask ya how much Vitamin D3 ya take? [/quote]
If getting little sun, 6000 IU per day.
If I get a good amount of strong sun, like an hour of tanning in the natural sun, then not any that day.
It’s one of those ones that if I miss a day I don’t think it matters, as I expect – have never looked it up, it’s just an impression – that levels take a while to fall off. But I don’t go great lengths of time without it, unless deliberately tanning quite a bit.
However by this point, Melanotan II use has me holding a decent tan for quite some time without needing to deliberately get sun, so tanning used to be a factor in use, it really isn’t anymore.
(Melanotan II being an injectable peptide that acts like melanocyte stimulating hormone, which results in a naturally fair person being as if naturally darker in complexion. I got tired of the fish-belly white look.)
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Wise Guy wrote:
Ya mind if I ask ya how much Vitamin D3 ya take?
If getting little sun, 6000 IU per day.
If I get a good amount of strong sun, like an hour of tanning in the natural sun, then not any that day.
It’s one of those ones that if I miss a day I don’t think it matters, as I expect – have never looked it up, it’s just an impression – that levels take a while to fall off. But I don’t go great lengths of time without it, unless deliberately tanning quite a bit.
However by this point, Melanotan II use has me holding a decent tan for quite some time without needing to deliberately get sun, so tanning used to be a factor in use, it really isn’t anymore.
(Melanotan II being an injectable peptide that acts like melanocyte stimulating hormone, which results in a naturally fair person being as if naturally darker in complexion. I got tired of the fish-belly white look.)[/quote]
Haha. I hear you about the fish belly white look.
I have a question for you about Melanotan II. Not trying to hijack but this already turned into a Bill Roberts’ Supplement thread. My question is this. If a person has fair complexion but has freckles, do you know how the different skin pigmentations (freckles vs the rest of the skin) will react to the compound? I.e. will the freckles and light portions get darkened to the same degree (not that I will end up without freckles, but that the freckles won’t generate melanin at a greater rate than the rest of the skin - i.e. when I go in the sun and come back inside an hour later, the freckles have temporarily darkened)? It cool if you have no clue, but it’s something I’ve been considering, and was curious to see if anyone knows. Thanks for all your honesty!
Best,
BT
I don’t know. I have no facial freckles, light freckling on the shoulders and upper back, and a very few dark freckles on the arms. They’ve continued looking natural, with the light freckles now hard to notice against the tan background. It seems to me that the increase was either even everywhere or if anything was less of an increase for the freckles. But for all I know that may have no predictive value for a more-freckled person, or even for another slightly-freckled person.
Commentary from users with freckles can quite likely be found at http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl
I do agree with a lot of the sentiment being expressed on this thread. I will say, though, that this is why I love Mr. Roberts. His honesty on this forum, and when I used to frequent it, the Meso board, is very refreshing in a less-than-honest industry.
The thing that has caught my attention on this thread is the number of level 4 and level 5 members who are showing some disgust with the methods of hyping these products. I would hope that Biotest takes note of the fact that they appear to be biting the hands that feed them somewhat. Is this any worse than any other supplement companies out there? Not at all. But what can I say, I’ve come to expect better from Biotest, which is why I’ve stuck with them almost exclusively for years.
I wonder if the national and world economy may have had a negative effect on business, resulting in resorting to some distasteful marketing…
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I don’t know. I have no facial freckles, light freckling on the shoulders and upper back, and a very few dark freckles on the arms. They’ve continued looking natural, with the light freckles now hard to notice against the tan background. It seems to me that the increase was either even everywhere or if anything was less of an increase for the freckles. But for all I know that may have no predictive value for a more-freckled person, or even for another slightly-freckled person.
Commentary from users with freckles can quite likely be found at http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl[/quote]
Thanks for the link! I haven’t read much about this stuffsince like '01 when the trials were going on in Australia for Melanotan 1. Time to get in the know.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
… malic acid has value in itself, .
In what regard?[/quote]
Levels of malate can be a limiting step in rate of energy production when dieting.
On the policosonal, yes the blood lipids and antioxidant aspects are also very sufficient reason to use it. That’s why I don’t worry whether neural performance enhancement really occurs
or not. If not, my money (and it isn’t expensive) isn’t being wasted.
A reason for thinking it might be the case though is: http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowFulltext&ProduktNr=224082&Ausgabe=226286&ArtikelNr=26649
Nothing but a publicity stunt for another overhyped supp. :0)
[quote]mrcold wrote:
I do agree with a lot of the sentiment being expressed on this thread. I will say, though, that this is why I love Mr. Roberts. His honesty on this forum, and when I used to frequent it, the Meso board, is very refreshing in a less-than-honest industry.
The thing that has caught my attention on this thread is the number of level 4 and level 5 members who are showing some disgust with the methods of hyping these products. I would hope that Biotest takes note of the fact that they appear to be biting the hands that feed them somewhat. Is this any worse than any other supplement companies out there? Not at all. But what can I say, I’ve come to expect better from Biotest, which is why I’ve stuck with them almost exclusively for years.
I wonder if the national and world economy may have had a negative effect on business, resulting in resorting to some distasteful marketing…
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For me,its the statement by Thibs that it may never be released,after TC said its release was coming “very soon”.I know its all about hyping this product up,which I am looking forward to,if Biotest didnt make good and effective sups,I wouldn’t care.
Imagine that you’re a kid again,and your parents said they were taking you to Disney World “very soon”.You get excited,but then your mom said"We might not go all,it is very expensive and price of gas just to get there is too high,plus your dad has been planning and he just can’t come up with the perfect itinerary".Whats worse,is that the rich privileged kids have been telling everyone how great Disney World is.
Its the takeaway close marketing their using on us that Im not happy with,but I will still buy it when it comes out cause it probably will be the shit!
Bill,
Thanks for chiming in and letting us know what you use and also admitting you get it gratis from Tim. I think that from your post, you’ve shown that your more in touch with Biotest’s end users (us), then some others are.
Like you said, that $1000 a month is nothing to some people, while to others it’s over and beyond their budget, but at least you realise this.
Thanks again for begin open.
LR
haha, Ted answered my question about the ingredients by posting pics. Now his post on elite is gone.
LOL all supplements company need marketing, even Biotest. Thibs never said it’s definatly not coming out, he implied there is a small chance it might not. If you don’t like the marketing, guess what T-Nation is… If you don’t like it, deal with it or GTFO
[quote]redgladiator wrote:
LOL all supplements company need marketing, even Biotest. Thibs never said it’s definatly not coming out, he implied there is a small chance it might not. If you don’t like the marketing, guess what T-Nation is… If you don’t like it, deal with it or GTFO[/quote]
GTFO,lol!I love that,but I don’t think Biotest is gonna use that in their marketing!People here are just getting impatient,we’ve been waiting for Anaconda for almost half a decade now
Im glad it has taken this long before they release it, that means it will be the best product on themarket, and thats what everybody wants, right?! Im sure it would have been released sooner had it not been for Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire, and the dumbest musclehead on the planet, Jose Canseco. So, lets just all relax, and enjoy the ride, because when this stuff gets released, we will all sell our mother-in-laws, to get our hands on some.
They are marketing geniuses, uh… or we’re just dumb.