Amit Sapir 10 Weeks Out

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
Well my comments may seem as if i try to wash off shit by pissing on it but I understand that this isn’t BB.com…Before I came here I was like:Steroids,they’re gonna kill me etc…well i understand that they aren’t bad a t all if used properly and that hard-work is needed.Anyways as a teenager I have no plans for the near future to use steroids but I don’t have anything against them.

I was sorry that my ignorance offended anyone and that all the work Amit Sapir did ,went to a shitty discussion with a teenager about steroids.If i knew that we were talking about an IFFB Pro then I would shut my fuckin’ mouth. And slimthugger I apologized not because I am a pussy or something but because I felt that I did wrong and that the others users of this site shouldn’t be deprived of Coach Thibs knowledge and Amit’s one… [/quote]

honestly though he is a professional bodybuilder and if you didn’t know if he used steroids before posting then i quite frankly pity your ignorance. if you had read the very first post you would see that Thibs clearly said he was helping him make his PRO debut.

so either you didn’t read this thread at all before posting that. or you truly know nothing about bodybuilding or steroids. either way ignorance isn’t an excuse. you have been here long enough to know the answer to your question without having to ask it.

Even Slimthugger didn’t need to ask because it should be blatantly obvious to anyone who is reading this. however the fact you didn’t lash out shows you have maturity unlike most of the other posters here in your age group.

I am confident everyone will forgive you and cut you some slack since you admitted your ignorance. i am sure you will learn from this experience, good luck with your goals.

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[quote]Clifford wrote:

Even Slimthugger didn’t need to ask because it should be blatantly obvious to anyone who is reading this. [/quote]

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
Well my comments may seem as if i try to wash off shit by pissing on it but I understand that this isn’t BB.com…Before I came here I was like:Steroids,they’re gonna kill me etc…well i understand that they aren’t bad a t all if used properly and that hard-work is needed.Anyways as a teenager I have no plans for the near future to use steroids but I don’t have anything against them.

I was sorry that my ignorance offended anyone and that all the work Amit Sapir did ,went to a shitty discussion with a teenager about steroids.If i knew that we were talking about an IFFB Pro then I would shut my fuckin’ mouth. And slimthugger I apologized not because I am a pussy or something but because I felt that I did wrong and that the others users of this site shouldn’t be deprived of Coach Thibs knowledge and Amit’s one… [/quote]

You’re good dude, relax. One thing to keep in mind though is that admitting it would put most people in a bad situation legally, saying no would cause people to call b.s. true or not.

I’m sure Professor X gets accused all the time and I believe he has stated in the past he is not an aas user. I might be wrong, I don’t quiet remember, but I do know that most guys with any size at all are accused all the time.

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
lol i know i feel like a dick now…sorry[/quote]

You shouldn’t.

I think it’s the people responding that bad to you, who should feel bad.

I don’t see why, especially when you ask so nicely, they answer in that way. You just asked, you didn’t accuse him.

Why can’t people just calm down and talk friendly to one another?

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Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…[/quote]

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…[/quote]

LOL

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[quote]jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.[/quote]

Jonatan you must be one tiny mother fucker, and know nothing of bodybuilding to be speaking like this.

Are you telling me that you are also retarded enough to ask an individual who has said he is an IFBB PRO if he uses steroids? What’s the point?

Sure he will say yes, then he will have no chance of getting a sponsorship b/c it will be in writing that he admitted to using steroids.

Have you watched Bigger Faster Stronger? Probably not. THe fitness model they interviewed in that documentary, who admitted to using steroids, was dropped by his sponsor “because they don’t condone that”.

And the Japanese BBer who got deported because he was caught with steroids, this isn’t rocket science. These are illegal drugs, you want to talk about them, go to the steroid forum.

Yah it would be real smart for Amit to answer any AAS questions.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.

Jonatan you must be one tiny mother fucker, and know nothing of bodybuilding to be speaking like this.

Are you telling me that you are also retarded enough to ask an individual who has said he is an IFBB PRO if he uses steroids? What’s the point?

Sure he will say yes, then he will have no chance of getting a sponsorship b/c it will be in writing that he admitted to using steroids.

Have you watched Bigger Faster Stronger? Probably not. THe fitness model they interviewed in that documentary, who admitted to using steroids, was dropped by his sponsor “because they don’t condone that”.

And the Japanese BBer who got deported because he was caught with steroids, this isn’t rocket science. These are illegal drugs, you want to talk about them, go to the steroid forum.

Yah it would be real smart for Amit to answer any AAS questions.[/quote]

If i’m tiny or not doesn’t matter this case, but if you’d like to know I’m on Denmarks national junior pl team, so I do know a thing or two about training.

I know, that he would never admit doing roids, but I still don’t see any reason talking like you do. Why such a harsh tone?
Are you really that dumb, that you can’t explain yourself in a nice tone?

Why be an idiot?

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[quote]jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.[/quote]

its not even the fact that he asked. its the circumstances of which he asked under. if he has read the thread he would have seen this guy was a pro in the first post.

asking an IFBB PRO if he is on steroids is like asking Lance Armstrong if he likes to go bike riding. if your even remotely educated on the topic you already know the answer, rather then ask it anyway and look like a fool.

For the record i have NO problem when someone asks if another random huge dude is taking steroids. but this is different this guy could be getting endorsement contracts with supplement company’s soon. so in conclusion he doesn’t deserve to have his question answered in this particular case.

also why the fuck does everyone randomly bring up Prof x name in almost every conversation, it was completely pointless.

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The people whining about how disrespectful it is to ask Amit about his AAS usage are being equally disrespectful by cluttering the thread dedicated to his progress with this dumbass argument. Chill, fellas.

In any event, it is Amit’s choice whether or not an answer to a question - directed at him, in HIS thread - is warranted… I bit my tongue earlier even though I thought it was lame how multiple people had to post simply to chide Marlind on his comment in the first place, but SOMEONE has to ask you guys to just knock the derailment off because you’re ruining what could be a great thread.

Best of luck to you, Amit. You’re a monster. I’ll be following this thread (or, if it dies, your progress) with interest.

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[quote]Clifford wrote:
jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.

its not even the fact that he asked. its the circumstances of which he asked under. if he has read the thread he would have seen this guy was a pro in the first post.

asking an IFBB PRO if he is on steroids is like asking Lance Armstrong if he likes to go bike riding. if your even remotely educated on the topic you already know the answer, rather then ask it anyway and look like a fool.

For the record i have NO problem when someone asks if another random huge dude is taking steroids. but this is different this guy could be getting endorsement contracts with supplement company’s soon. so in conclusion he doesn’t deserve to have his question answered in this particular case.

also why the fuck does everyone randomly bring up Prof x name in almost every conversation, it was completely pointless.[/quote]

I totally agree, that he could figure out himself, but I think people should tell him so in a proper way. There’s no need to talk in a tone like that IMO.

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hopefully in the future threads like this will get posted in the T-Cell to avoid what just happened here.

I also wanted to know if Amit had any supplement endorsement deals in the works? since i know even some non pros have contracts with company’s.

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[quote]Free2Be wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well my comments may seem as if i try to wash off shit by pissing on it but I understand that this isn’t BB.com…Before I came here I was like:Steroids,they’re gonna kill me etc…well i understand that they aren’t bad a t all if used properly and that hard-work is needed.Anyways as a teenager I have no plans for the near future to use steroids but I don’t have anything against them.

I was sorry that my ignorance offended anyone and that all the work Amit Sapir did ,went to a shitty discussion with a teenager about steroids.If i knew that we were talking about an IFFB Pro then I would shut my fuckin’ mouth. And slimthugger I apologized not because I am a pussy or something but because I felt that I did wrong and that the others users of this site shouldn’t be deprived of Coach Thibs knowledge and Amit’s one…

You’re good dude, relax. One thing to keep in mind though is that admitting it would put most people in a bad situation legally, saying no would cause people to call b.s. true or not.

I’m sure Professor X gets accused all the time and I believe he has stated in the past he is not an aas user. I might be wrong, I don’t quiet remember, but I do know that most guys with any size at all are accused all the time.[/quote]

If other big guys in the gym don’t mutter something like “what’s he on…”, “juiced to the gills I tell ya…” etc behind your back, then you’re not good at drug-free bodybuilding :wink:

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[quote]Clifford wrote:
jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:

also why the fuck does everyone randomly bring up Prof x name in almost every conversation, it was completely pointless.[/quote]

I think it is because Prof X is one of the few supposedly “big” guys who actually post(ed) pics and/or uses his own image for their avatar. Also it helps that he posted many times in many different threads, thus it is easier to remember his name when trying to reference a “big” guy on this forum (which is unfortunately far and few between).

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…and thanks for killing the thread.

This is the reason why this site will never go back to being a legitimate bodybuilding source. Anytime someone posts pics on this site and they have a great physique, they get showered with shit. Who gives a fuck whose on gear? If you don’t know, you shouldn’t ask.

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[quote]B-Mac13 wrote:
…and thanks for killing the thread.

This is the reason why this site will never go back to being a legitimate bodybuilding source. Anytime someone posts pics on this site and they have a great physique, they get showered with shit. Who gives a fuck whose on gear? If you don’t know, you shouldn’t ask.[/quote]

Exactly.

Sorry Amit…if by chance you are still reading this crap. Good luck at the show.

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[quote]jonatan-shg wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
jonatan-shg wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Well I know about the AAS usage in the Pros but I hadn’t carefully read the whole thread.I didn’t know Sapir was a Pro I thought he was a HUGE dude and thats it…I am not here to judge or accuse anyone but as a teen I am curious to know what is the limit of muscle growth in natural trainees thats why I ask people if they use AAS…

And if ProfX is natty than cool he is huge and he works like an ox…anyways thanx for understanding my point…

Well, I think you deserve to have a good answer instead of some internet warrior blaiming you on a question.

I think, that a lot of people on these internet forums should pull themselves together and learn, that good manners are appreciated here too.

Jonatan you must be one tiny mother fucker, and know nothing of bodybuilding to be speaking like this.

Are you telling me that you are also retarded enough to ask an individual who has said he is an IFBB PRO if he uses steroids? What’s the point?

Sure he will say yes, then he will have no chance of getting a sponsorship b/c it will be in writing that he admitted to using steroids.

Have you watched Bigger Faster Stronger? Probably not. THe fitness model they interviewed in that documentary, who admitted to using steroids, was dropped by his sponsor “because they don’t condone that”.

And the Japanese BBer who got deported because he was caught with steroids, this isn’t rocket science. These are illegal drugs, you want to talk about them, go to the steroid forum.

Yah it would be real smart for Amit to answer any AAS questions.

If i’m tiny or not doesn’t matter this case, but if you’d like to know I’m on Denmarks national junior pl team, so I do know a thing or two about training.

I know, that he would never admit doing roids, but I still don’t see any reason talking like you do. Why such a harsh tone?
Are you really that dumb, that you can’t explain yourself in a nice tone?

Why be an idiot?[/quote]

I get upset b/c this has happened at least a dozen times before. Someone with a great physique posts pics and then everyone starts shit about AAS use and then the OP doesn’t come back. We have lost a lot of guys who know a great deal about BBing b/c someone always has to bring up gear.

When I was a noob I did the same thing, so I can empathize with Marlind, but he’s been around here long enough to know better.

I don’t mean to get pissy with you, it’s just frustrating that this always has to happen…ALWAYS

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[quote]B-Mac13 wrote:
If you don’t know, you shouldn’t ask.[/quote]

Which is a fucking stupid thing to say. If you don’t know, then you obviously don’t know not to ask.

Seeing as no one talks about it, how is anyone supposed to know how to approach it? What with everyone being so fucking touchy, it’s no wonder there’s so much ignorance involved.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
B-Mac13 wrote:
If you don’t know, you shouldn’t ask.

Which is a fucking stupid thing to say. If you don’t know, then you obviously don’t know not to ask.

Seeing as no one talks about it, how is anyone supposed to know how to approach it? What with everyone being so fucking touchy, it’s no wonder there’s so much ignorance involved.[/quote]

Why is it stupid? If you haven’t been around this game long enough to understand these things, you shouldn’t worry about them. Should a novice be asking questions to an IFBB pro about his advanced supplementation? Of course not. Read and hang around before you alienate assets to the board and ruin it for everyone else.

Good luck Amit, and thanks CT for keeping us in the loop.