[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
And still, the question of what kind of chips and cookies remains unanswered. [/quote]
Also, if his problem is solved?
My wife’s opinion goes like this:
‘Well, did he still bring back the cookies and chips? Or at least something as close as possible? If not, then he’s still an a-hole because he neglected his wife for some other girl. Otherwise it’s fine, and he was just being helpful’
…Or something like that…
Did you bring back the cookies and chips? Sorry if you already said, there’s a lot of pages here…
[quote]derek wrote:
You gave that a lot of thought, Chainsaw. Thanks.
I assure you that this issue is the only one she has. It has been a thorn in my side for quite a while. I however realize that no one is perfect especially myself so I cannot fault her much.
She is a fantastic mother, a great cook, a great source of support even when dealing with my many quirks. She’s great to look at, to spend time with etc. etc. just to get that on record.
I give her no reason to be jealous and perhaps THAT is why it all irks me so much. Her reaction is so unnecessary that it causes me to freak out and I have to resist the desire to get my keys and take a trip up north for the night to cool off.
If it were not for my kids, that’s exactly what I would do. I’d come back of course but at least it’d keep me from saying things that I regret.
We’ve “made up” at this point but I feel like it’s not over (because it’s not). [/quote]
Okay, here’s another woman’s view. Logically and in humanity you are NOT an asshole. That word should not even be mentioned in this context. What you did was a good thing and showed your worth as a friend and associate (plus you’re obviously great in an emergency - quick reactions and so forth!!)
However, without knowing details of your relationship, your wife is just out of surgery and stressed and she sent you out to do her a favour and come back as quickly as possible with her goodies. Probably ANY time she had to wait for you to get back to her was way too much (time drags when you’re sick) and she may have seen your emergency detour as overdone chivalry in her time of need. If she had been healthy and normal, this probably would not have been an issue (unless there’s background I’m not aware of which is probably the case).
by the way men too can get needy insecure and downright bitchy. cheers!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
buffalokilla wrote:
Yay, I’m a teenager now with no knowledge of women! Thanks Alpha F! You just took a few years off my life.
Because women aren’t equals or people, they’re women. It’s different. You can’t call them on being stupid sometimes or allowing the current marital dynamic in this country to persist.
Oy.
Exactly. If people truly think this way, I would be afraid to let a woman teach any children I might have in the future. I mean, hell, they could be going through stress and stuff, start throwing shit and kill my kid. I, of course, won’t be able to do anything about this because “she is not responsible for her actions”.
And we want a woman president?
I mean, honestly, do some of the women here understand the damage you are doing by even implying that women can act irrationally for no damn reason and they should not be held accountable for it because they may be under a lot of stress?
Shouldn’t this call into question any judgement handed down by a woman judge (she could be having her period after having surgery or something), any surgical decision made by a woman doctor (she could be under more stress than the guy docs), or any woman supervisor’s actions?
Oh, wait, this only applies when you all want it to.[/quote]
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
[quote]julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
[/quote]
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.
no man, youre not an a-hole. i probably would have done the same thing. your wife is just expressing a little jealousy, because lets face it, youre a dead sexy t-man…i mean, can you blame her?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.[/quote]
ill cut right to the point. i was at some friends’ house lastnight waiting for them, watching tv. flipping by some spanish soap operas. im studying spanish, so i stopped. spanish soap operas seem to be filled with gorgeous girls. like, all over the place. educational, para mi, and entertaining.
[quote]dez6485 wrote:
spanish soap operas seem to be filled with gorgeous girls. like, all over the place. educational, para mi, and entertaining.[/quote]
Pretty much all soap operas have at least one gorgeous girl in them. But gorgeous spanish girls…damn I just got a boner.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
And still, the question of what kind of chips and cookies remains unanswered. [/quote]
Rainbow Chips Ahoy
Chili Cheese Fritos
UNBEATABLE
[quote]Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.[/quote]
I dont talk about my bad days unless its absolutely necessary/somebody forces me/I need advise, which is rare because I like to get away and work things out alone in my head.
When someone, even a best friend, asks me about a day thats been bad I dont want to talk about it, because I dont want to think about it.
I think your referring to girls that are more extroverted and feeling types.
Ive been raised around so many men in my life that when girls try to talk all that “chic-shit” with me it actually makes me so nervous and insecure I just kinda stare at them and say “uh huh”.
Once I even asked a girl why she talked about her insecurities so much about everything, some women seem to find comfort in talking about their insecurities with other women and I dont understand how thats going to help.
Wouldnt it just make you more aware of your being insecure in that particular situation and thus make you more susceptible to being insecure if that situation arises again?
Because you were thinking about it so much when talking about that situation with your friend? I totally understand your frustration. I have it too with girls that dont play sports at an elite level.
[quote]julia87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.
I dont talk about my bad days unless its absolutely necessary/somebody forces me/I need advise, which is rare because I like to get away and work things out alone in my head.
When someone, even a best friend, asks me about a day thats been bad I dont want to talk about it, because I dont want to think about it.
I think your referring to girls that are more extroverted and feeling types.
Ive been raised around so many men in my life that when girls try to talk all that “chic-shit” with me it actually makes me so nervous and insecure I just kinda stare at them and say “uh huh”.
Once I even asked a girl why she talked about her insecurities so much about everything, some women seem to find comfort in talking about their insecurities with other women and I dont understand how thats going to help.
Wouldnt it just make you more aware of your being insecure in that particular situation and thus make you more susceptible to being insecure if that situation arises again?
Because you were thinking about it so much when talking about that situation with your friend? I totally understand your frustration. I have it too with girls that dont play sports at an elite level.
[/quote]
Well…I’m free tomorrow night…
[quote]julia87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.
I dont talk about my bad days unless its absolutely necessary/somebody forces me/I need advise, which is rare because I like to get away and work things out alone in my head.
When someone, even a best friend, asks me about a day thats been bad I dont want to talk about it, because I dont want to think about it.
I think your referring to girls that are more extroverted and feeling types.
Ive been raised around so many men in my life that when girls try to talk all that “chic-shit” with me it actually makes me so nervous and insecure I just kinda stare at them and say “uh huh”.
Once I even asked a girl why she talked about her insecurities so much about everything, some women seem to find comfort in talking about their insecurities with other women and I dont understand how thats going to help.
Wouldnt it just make you more aware of your being insecure in that particular situation and thus make you more susceptible to being insecure if that situation arises again?
Because you were thinking about it so much when talking about that situation with your friend? I totally understand your frustration. I have it too with girls that dont play sports at an elite level.
[/quote]
Pretty, smart, sensible, cool and athletic.
If I were 20 years younger…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]derek wrote:
I don’t usually get into my personal life but…
I was out getting my wife cookies and chips (don’t ask) and was returning a call from a female client (of over two years) about her training schedule. When she answered, she was hysterical. The police had just left her house because she was the victim of a home invasion. She had come home to a broken back door and a pryed-open window.
Since I was literally one minute from her house, I decided to stop by and see if she was ok. She lives alone with her 5 y/o daughter.
I called my wife to tell her what I wanted to do before I turned the corner to her house.
I went there, affirmed what the police told her, that it was probably just some kid and he got scared off by the house alarm and nothing was stolen. I left and went to get my wife her “snacks” Now, we aren’t speaking and she thinks I don’t care about how she feels.
My thoughts are that if SHE lived alone, I would want someone she trusted to stop by and see if she was alright.
My wife explained that I wasn’t this woman’s boyfriend, I wasn’t her husband, I’m just her trainer and I shouldn’t have tried to help.
I feel like it was one human being helping another human being. She didn’t ask me to come over but she was clearly grateful that I did.
Just to clear my head a bit, can I get some feedback on whether I am a good guy or an insensitive jerk? “WWTD” What Would T-man Do?[/quote]Dude I would have done the same thing. I
think women get jealous too easily.
For example: i was helping a Girl named Melissia with her locker which was stuck. my then girlfreind saw me help Melissia and got pissed. the next day she broke up with me beacuse apperntly i broke some un-written law that says i cant help any other girls but my girlfreind.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
A real man is the one who looks in the mirror and knows the difference between the image and the reality.
Alpha F
That the image is a mass of photons bombarding my retinas, causing my brain to interpret said signal as a representation of self, whereas the reality is a collection of particles held together by relatively weak atomic forces and deluded into self-consciousness?[/quote]
You seriously need to find a woman who knows the difference between the image and the reality of the length and the girth of your intellect.
Think harder, baby, harder…
; )
[quote]jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
jacross wrote:
I’m pretty sure I won…
dollarbill44 wrote:
There are no winners in this game.
dB
A real man is the one who looks in the mirror and knows the difference between the image and the reality.
Alpha F
It was a joke about GHF, not us. The confusion is understandable though.[/quote]
Us? Very nice. Now you are talking like a man that arouses my interest. Your approach has changed. You or any man can dissagree with me on all accounts and completely so. I love being challenged, that was never an issue.
I only jumped on you because on your first post I payed Chinadol a compliment which praised her nature and you jumped on it as if it were a question of right and wrong which consequently nulified my personal opinion on one aspect of her inner beauty. It had nothing to do with right and wrong.
This is why I mentioned reading and comprehention. If you pay attention I was neither agreeing nor dissagreeing with her post. I was dignifying her charachter.
In other words it was as if I said:
“Chinadol you are beutiful”
And you quoted my reply to her with:
“This is bullshit”
To defend her honor I jumped on you mercilessly and with the same destructive force. I will care little about insults to my nature but when I elevate my fellow man, male or female, and some one else insults them I act to protect their integrity.
An eye for an eye.
I am not the feeling type as Julia highlighted in her post. But there are women who are and they are more difficult to deal with and need to be protected and cared for in a diferent way. There are also males who are feeling types and I find them just as difficult, irrational, demanding and insecure as the women.
If you can’t relate to them because they restric the force of your nature then love them from a distance.
On that note I also relate 100% to what Julia mentioned having difficulty relating to women who don’t train at an elite level. You are used to a high level of intensity, discipline and stimulation from your sport and you wonder what the fuss is all about with these women when in reality “the man” is her sport and every other woman is competition.
I wish every woman had at least some trainning as an elite athlete.
I love men and if I have to fight one, for one or to keep one then it isn’t love and I lose interest. I don’t bring the concept of fighting/winning or losing into personal relationships - that is what sports is for.
I remain fully commited to my trainning and if I should meet a man who doesn’t want to win over me, he is the one who is going to win me over.
Otherwise live and let live.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
jacross wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
jacross wrote:
I’m pretty sure I won…
dollarbill44 wrote:
There are no winners in this game.
dB
A real man is the one who looks in the mirror and knows the difference between the image and the reality.
Alpha F
It was a joke about GHF, not us. The confusion is understandable though.
Us? Very nice. Now you are talking like a man that arouses my interest. Your approach has changed. You or any man can dissagree with me on all accounts and completely so. I love being challenged, that was never an issue.
I only jumped on you because on your first post I payed Chinadol a compliment which praised her nature and you jumped on it as if it were a question of right and wrong which consequently nulified my personal opinion on one aspect of her inner beauty. It had nothing to do with right and wrong.
This is why I mentioned reading and comprehention. If you pay attention I was neither agreeing nor dissagreeing with her post. I was dignifying her charachter.
In other words it was as if I said:
“Chinadol you are beutiful”
And you quoted my reply to her with:
“This is bullshit”
To defend her honor I jumped on you mercilessly and with the same destructive force. I will care little about insults to my nature but when I elevate my fellow man, male or female, and some one else insults them I act to protect their integrity.
An eye for an eye.
I am not the feeling type as Julia highlighted in her post. But there are women who are and they are more difficult to deal with and need to be protected and cared for in a diferent way. There are also males who are feeling types and I find them just as difficult, irrational, demanding and insecure as the women.
If you can’t relate to them because they restric the force of your nature then love them from a distance.
On that note I also relate 100% to what Julia mentioned having difficulty relating to women who don’t train at an elite level. You are used to a high level of intensity, discipline and stimulation from your sport and you wonder what the fuss is all about with these women when in reality “the man” is her sport and every other woman is competition.
I wish every woman had at least some trainning as an elite athlete.
I love men and if I have to fight one, for one or to keep one then it isn’t love and I lose interest. I don’t bring the concept of fighting/winning or losing into personal relationships - that is what sports is for.
I remain fully commited to my trainning and if I should meet a man who doesn’t want to win over me, he is the one who is going to win me over.
Otherwise live and let live.
[/quote]
In light of your explanation I have a greater appreciation for the voracity of your reaction (though not the way you expressed it). I have no problem with Chinadoll but the part that you highlighted I did not agree with.
You view it as a noble or positive aspect of her character, I view it in an opposite light. So in that respect I was attacking her character and deliberately so. I also admit that the way I expressed myself was deliberately sharp and dismissive. I probably should have elaborated.
I didn’t think after the delay (and esoteric responses), that you were actually going to come and talk to me properly. Thankyou for doing so.
Cheers,
Jake
Holy crap… I caught this thread when it was just getting started… HTF did it get to be THIS long? This must be the #2 thread behind SRC.
Anyways, I really don’t have the time or energy right now to go back and read the entire thread, so forgive me if I’m beating a dead horse or posting redundancies (probably am at this point).
I’ve only met/hung/worked out with Derek once, and had a handful of conversations with him via PM, but I like to think I’m a pretty quick judge of character, and I feel confident in saying that Derek is a stand-up guy. I totally believe his intentions were noble, and I doubt he’d have “taken advantage” of the situation if it presented itself. Somebody once said in another thread that the definition of a (real) man is a guy who does the right thing when nobody’s looking. I’d bet that describes Derek pretty well.
Derek, hopefully things are back on track between you and your wife, but you did the right thing. My wife would probably have reacted exactly the same way, so I can feel your pain… it sucks being punished for doing the right thing, but we can’t let that deter us.
Best,
Bob
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
julia87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.
I dont talk about my bad days unless its absolutely necessary/somebody forces me/I need advise, which is rare because I like to get away and work things out alone in my head.
When someone, even a best friend, asks me about a day thats been bad I dont want to talk about it, because I dont want to think about it.
I think your referring to girls that are more extroverted and feeling types.
Ive been raised around so many men in my life that when girls try to talk all that “chic-shit” with me it actually makes me so nervous and insecure I just kinda stare at them and say “uh huh”.
Once I even asked a girl why she talked about her insecurities so much about everything, some women seem to find comfort in talking about their insecurities with other women and I dont understand how thats going to help.
Wouldnt it just make you more aware of your being insecure in that particular situation and thus make you more susceptible to being insecure if that situation arises again?
Because you were thinking about it so much when talking about that situation with your friend? I totally understand your frustration. I have it too with girls that dont play sports at an elite level.
Pretty, smart, sensible, cool and athletic.
If I were 20 years younger…[/quote]
…you’d still be old?
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
julia87 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
I see your point, though you need to remember that not every woman thinks the same way, just like men.
I know. I was also taking that line of thinking to the extreme, however, it seems that many double standards are completely favorable yet many women have a hard time accepting that many simply don’t make sense. I personally feel that if women want equal footing in a relationship, then if they get to “act up” and not be held responsible for their actions, guys should also not get shit thrown back in our faces from stuff that happened 10 years ago that you all love to bring up at the most ridiculous times.
Guys get stressed out too, even if we don’t run around and feel like expressing all of our emotions at every given opportunity. It seems that many women don’t understand this since we are the ones who aren’t supposed to cry at the drop of a hat or discuss random ‘chick-shit’ over cafe-lattes and pints of icecream.
With women, we are supposed to take into account your period, your bad day at work, your bad hair day, the co-workers who are out to get you, the full on mental break downs, and the near psychotic tendencies many of you display at unpredictable times.
I truly believe women love to live in soap operas.
I hate soap operas.
I dont talk about my bad days unless its absolutely necessary/somebody forces me/I need advise, which is rare because I like to get away and work things out alone in my head.
When someone, even a best friend, asks me about a day thats been bad I dont want to talk about it, because I dont want to think about it.
I think your referring to girls that are more extroverted and feeling types.
Ive been raised around so many men in my life that when girls try to talk all that “chic-shit” with me it actually makes me so nervous and insecure I just kinda stare at them and say “uh huh”.
Once I even asked a girl why she talked about her insecurities so much about everything, some women seem to find comfort in talking about their insecurities with other women and I dont understand how thats going to help.
Wouldnt it just make you more aware of your being insecure in that particular situation and thus make you more susceptible to being insecure if that situation arises again?
Because you were thinking about it so much when talking about that situation with your friend? I totally understand your frustration. I have it too with girls that dont play sports at an elite level.
Pretty, smart, sensible, cool and athletic.
If I were 20 years younger…
…you’d still be old?
DB[/quote]
I was thinking if I were 20 years younger I could strike out with Julia.