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tryin2getbig,

Yes, I am sure that all protein is alike regardless of cost. I am also sure that there is no difference between a Mercedes and a used Chevy.

Unless you want to go to the time and expense of having some cheap brand of protein analyzed I would not trust it. Buy something you can have faith in and feel good about taking it regularly. You will never regret it!

Amitsapir,

If Grow is not available I would purchase Prolab. I have used there products on and off for many years with fine results.

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I’ll refrain from responding to the rather ignorant responses in an attempt to thwart a flame war.

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thanks…Brink’s article is very good. I’m still looking for a brand to brand comparison though

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ZEB…

according to TC’s THE PROTEIN INSIDER, the ‘insider’ claims that the leading seller of whey protein “use the cheapest whey they can find, with just a little bit of the good stuff in it.” This leading seller of whey protein may be the Optimum or EAS (or another co.), their name wasn’t disclosed in the article, which may also very well be one of the more expensive proteins out there (to us). So how do you know, ZEB?

PS

Lets try to forget that That Chevy/Benz analogy please, it wasn’t a very good one.

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tryin2getbig,

First of all, I did not state that the “most popular” brands are in fact the best onces to purchase.
What I stated was that you usually get what you pay for! This goes for everything from supplements to cars.
The Mercedes analogy is dead on!

Second of all, if a few of the “most popular” brands are garbage, is it then logical to assume all of the most expensive brands are garbage? Then, can you also assume that the cheap brands are now better than “all” of the most expensive brands? No to both!

I am surprised that anyone would take a contrary opinion regarding the purchase of quality supplements.

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again, all i’m trying to figure out is how you determine which supplements are “quailty”

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If you look at my very first post I stated: “If I were you I would have stuck with Grow”.

Your post states “ignore the price difference as that is not an indicator of quality”. I disagree, I think price, is one very important indicator of quality.

Do you think Grow is garbage? Or, do you not purchase it because it is expensive? Which is it?

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Tryin’,

I don’t have a lot of thoughts on this topic, but you asked me to post, so I will.

I agree with Chris Shugart on this: “If you can’t afford a good protein powder, then buy good food.”

I’d go a little farther and say that protein powder, EFAs, and a lot of other supplements just are food. Pimped out, designer food, but food nonetheless.

Thus, whatever type of protein powder that you get should be of the highest quality that your personal budget can manage, just as the food you eat should be of the highest quality that your personal budget can manage.

It’s an old cliche, but it’s especially true for people who want to look good nekkid’-- “You are what you eat.”

Or to paraphrase something Michelle T. Vixen said one time (I think it was her at least…) “If you eat garbage, you’re going to look like garbage!”

Dan “Give us 10 pound tubs of Low-Carb GROW! or give us death!” McVicker

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I have been mixing proteins.
Add one or 2 bottles of grow to some cheap whey and you got a shitload of good quality low carb protein.

I’ve been doing this for years.

I also like Infusion by SAN very expensive but it tastes great and I add a pound or 2 of cheap protein to it.

JA

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ZEB,
Firstly, I dont think that there is any question that trying2bebig is not buying biotest because of the cost -rather then because he feels it is low quality… I believe it was stated above.
I tihnk his questioning quality while asking you to forget price was so that you would get over your issue with price and give him something constructive. Grow may not be affordable and he wants to know what quality supplements are so that he can get the cheapest high quality supplement he can… It may not be as good as grow but does that mean he should go wihtout?

Secondly, there are many full time students I know that do not drink, do not own cars and spend money on petrol, do not take girls out on expensive dates and have not bought new clothing in years, that are strugling and could not afford the more expensive supplements on the market. You really are speaking from a very
priveledged position… and to not realize that some people are strugling finacially really is quite ignorant.

Also i think the point that trying2bebig was making with his previous post from the protein insider article is that it is not necaserily the cheapest brands that will use
low quality protein. so to say you get what you pay for isnt necasserily true… It maybe true for grow but if you cant afford it then there is no logic hounding that one point.

To say that - you get what you pay for - really is a gross generaliztion that is blatantly false in many cases (although it may very well be true for grow)… take clothing brands for example… the price of nike clothing and footwear is a lot higher then the quality would indicate… Are you paying for a brand an image or a quality product? Im sure there are many higher quality products that are not nearly as expensive!

Also if everyone were to believe the you get what you pay for motto… then all a company making a very poor protein supplement would need to do is charge a lot of money… they would have your business for sure…

Reality is if a company can make more money by selling a product regardless of the quality of a product at a certain price they will do it. A product could be sold at a big profit and sell few, or sold at a small profit and sell many and lead to the same profit for the company. If a company feels that a certain part of the market is overfull they might aim there product at a different end…

I would love to dispute your car analogy as i dont like it at all… but
unfortuneately I know NOTHING about cars!

here however is something that i found on the net

“No auto manufacturer wants to hear customers whine, but the sensitivity is
magnified at Mercedes, which commands a steep premium for its products because
of the belief that they are engineered to higher standards, are assembled more
carefully, and feature more advanced technology than more pedestrian brands. So it’s not good news when customer surveys by J.D. Power & Associates rank
Mercedes quality as much worse than average?in 26th place, behind Oldsmobile, in one survey”

Wow… lets read that again…Mercedes quality as much worse than average!!!
How bout that??? are you still getting what you paid for???

here are some links

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/investing/articles/0,15114,517706,00.html

http://lemonmb.com/

http://www.mercedesproblems.com/

All in all ZEB you have not been helpful to this guy at all… why not just say you think grow is worth saving your money for and leave it!

Now the above statement is a bit hypocritcal as i also have offered no valuable advice… Sorry mate, I live in aus my recomendation wouldnt mean much at all, although i have heard some good stuff about the protein factory, Berardi mentions it at the end of one of his articles about post workout nutrition! i checked it out and it looked well priced…

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Chris,

I suppose that we do not have to debate the “you get what you pay for” theme. Although, if you were to state “you never get what you pay for” you would be more wrong than using the old slogan. Does that prove that “you get what you pay for” is correct? It does not disprove it!

As to Protein poweder, we are all in agreement that Grow is of high quality, and is a bit more expensive than most. In this case you get what you pay for. So, the great hunt for a quality protein powder is not needed it is?

As to your assertion that this young man probably has absolutely no other expenses in his life to slash in order to use the money for Grow, I disagree.

Does he live on the streets and sleep in a cardboard box? I don’t think so. The fact is we Americans are quite privileged! The average american family lives on a gross of about $45,000 per year. While this in no way equates to wealth, it does give the family enough to spend an extra $7.00 on a container of Grow.

While neither of us knows personally the financial situation of the person who began this thread, I did make some assumptions. I assumed he either had a girl friend or was married. Fair enough? I assumed that he may occasionally purchase a body building magazine. Fair enough? I assumed that at some point he would make a clothing purchse. Fair enough? Finally, I assumed that he drives a car. If he does not drive a car he certainly either takes a bus, subway or shares expenses with someone who does have a car. In any event it will cost him money to go from point A to Point B. fair enough?

If you are an average American and you make a statement, such as “Icannot afford a high quality protein supplement” (remember we all agree that Grow is high quality), it usually means that you do not want the high quality product enough to restrict your spending in other areas in order to allocate the funds for purchase of the high quality product, in this case Grow.

I did in fact help him more than someone who would perhaps recommend an inferior product. Not only did I point out a high quality product, Grow. I also directed him on how to achieve the means to make this purchase!

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ZEB i think the only thing you did was market grow for the past 5-10 threads

nonetheless, thanks for taking the time

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To move back on topic, I have used All the Whey protein concentrate before and have been happy with it. Based on my experience, it seems to be a good product.

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tryin2getbig,

What I have tried to do was realign your priority’s, regarding your budget, relative to your selection of supplements.

I took the time to try to convince you to purchase a quality supplement because I care. I remember many years ago as a kid trying to gain muscle. It was not an easy task, in my case. Just trying to pass along my experience.

Sorry, if you do not see the value in my advice.

Best of luck to you,

Zeb

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ZEB,

I saw that you’ve recommended GROW. As soon as I am done with Designer and then ALLTHEWHEY, ill give GROW a try.

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I just ordered 4 bottles each each of Classic Grow! and Surge…very excited