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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
Would being stronger and/or faster make him better on the field, yes or no?[/quote]

Faster? No how much faster do you think he needs to be to block?

Stronger? maybe/maybe not. He’s been blocking everybody and people are not going up to 500 lbs yet so how much stronger does he need to be.

Strength Endurance? yes he needs to be able to push play after play.

You still didn’t say why pushing escalades 250 yards does not make you strong, and running 50 sprints does not make you fast? Or what amazing training program you have that will make this guy a faster stronger football player?

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
Would being stronger and/or faster make him better on the field, yes or no?[/quote]

Have you ever seen him play? He throws 280 defensive ends around like they are toys.

The problem that always pops up on these forums with threads like these, is that the majority of us are lifters. We lift to lift. Picking up a barbell is our Sport Specific Training. Therefore, lifting is both the ends and the means.

For athletes, lifting weights is part of the general physical preparedness for their sport. It is one of the means that could be used for the ends of suceeding on the field. They must weigh the risks of benefits of what they are doing off the field everyday to make smart decisions that affect their livelihood. Weight lifting, though no doubt safer than football, still poses risks to an athlete. If he is at an elite level, maintaining his position there, and does not need to lift, why should he risk his standing? “Lifters” walk out of the weight room and they are done, professional athletes walk out of the weight room and they are only just beginning.

I have no idea if that made sense, this cold medicine is fucking with me so I’m not going to go back over this.

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
Would being stronger and/or faster make him better on the field, yes or no?[/quote]

He’s 34 y.o., and is already performing at an elite level that places him among the very best LT’s in the NFL. He only has three or four years left at best; at this point, he doesn’t need to be screwing around trying to push his squat to 700.

Since he is already an elite performer (that’s now the third I personally have mentioned this; read it a few more times until it sinks in), he just needs to maintain what he’s got for as long as he can.

Doing otherwise would potentially cost him millions of $$$'s in lost salary.

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
I’ve never really understood threads like this.

Here’s a guy who has made himself into one of the best LT’s on the face of the planet, but we think his workout is silly so let’s rip on him.

In his prime, he was arguably the best in the world at his position, and he’s still pretty damn good even as age catches up with him.

Wow, just imagine if he had trained properly!

Reminds of those threads where some posters determined that World-Record-Holder Rezazedah would be more explosive if he lost some fat.

Yea why would anyone want to get faster or stronger, that wouldn’t help him play football at all. Everyone knows that when you are really good you can’t go any higher it isn’t like someone might actually want to be THE BEST or even THE BEST EVER, no you are right he should do a subpar program because he is damn good. (sarcasm off)

So I’m assuming your the one who runs 150 sprints a week? Or push escalades 250 yards twice a week?
What exactly are you saying, if he did a nice T-Nation special 10x10 squats he would see alot more progress on the field then pushing his car up the drive way?
And please show me how many 325lbs men walking around can sit in linebacker stance for 1 minute.

I guess the reason he’s in the nfl and everybody else is in the gym is because he knows his goals.

“When I lift weights, I’m really just trying to maintain the strength that I already have,” Jones says. “People ask me what I can max but I don’t have any idea. I haven’t done that since college. My main goal with the weights is to just do the little things that help me on the field.”

take notice to ON THE FIELD not local powerlifting meet.

Would being stronger and/or faster make him better on the field, yes or no?

Would trainig to be faster and or stronger in the gym put him at an unneccessary risk of injury and impact his recovery from game to game and training to training? YES or NO?

Would devoting the extra time spent getting stronger and or faster have a significant enough carryover to his on the field abilities to justify it? YES or NO?
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Hanley… that is his offseason workout, it will not mess with his recovery between games.

Are you telling me that a man of his size, and apparent strenght can’t put more intensity into his dumbell presses than using 80-100 lbs without injuring himself? He couldn’t use the same amount of time to do a better workout? I think he could, if you disagree so be it.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
Would being stronger and/or faster make him better on the field, yes or no?

He’s 34 y.o., and is already performing at an elite level that places him among the very best LT’s in the NFL. He only has three or four years left at best; at this point, he doesn’t need to be screwing around trying to push his squat to 700.

Since he is already an elite performer (that’s now the third I personally have mentioned this; read it a few more times until it sinks in), he just needs to maintain what he’s got for as long as he can.

Doing otherwise would potentially cost him millions of $$$'s in lost salary.[/quote]

The article was from 05 he wasn’t so old, or so great (No one is) that it would be stupid to think he could improve.

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
The article was from 05 he wasn’t so old, or so great (No one is) that it would be stupid to think he could improve.[/quote]

Walter Jones has accomplished everything there is for an individual to accomplish in football. Given that, he can wear a pink tu-tu and stand on his head for an offseason training regimen for all I care. His results speak loudly enough for me.

If you’re still not satisfied, please take it up with Mr. Jones.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
The article was from 05 he wasn’t so old, or so great (No one is) that it would be stupid to think he could improve.

Walter Jones has accomplished everything there is for an individual to accomplish in football. Given that, he can wear a pink tu-tu and stand on his head for an offseason training regimen for all I care. His results speak loudly enough for me.

If you’re still not satisfied, please take it up with Mr. Jones.[/quote]

Duly noted.

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
The article was from 05 he wasn’t so old, or so great (No one is) that it would be stupid to think he could improve.

Walter Jones has accomplished everything there is for an individual to accomplish in football. Given that, he can wear a pink tu-tu and stand on his head for an offseason training regimen for all I care. His results speak loudly enough for me.

If you’re still not satisfied, please take it up with Mr. Jones.

Duly noted.[/quote]

haha

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
The article was from 05 he wasn’t so old, or so great (No one is) that it would be stupid to think he could improve.

Walter Jones has accomplished everything there is for an individual to accomplish in football. Given that, he can wear a pink tu-tu and stand on his head for an offseason training regimen for all I care. His results speak loudly enough for me.

If you’re still not satisfied, please take it up with Mr. Jones.

Duly noted.[/quote]

Best post in the world.