[quote]BruceLeeFan wrote:
Vegita wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
Vegita wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Gravity drives may be science fiction at this point, but a lot of science fiction has already come true, so i’m not ruling out gravity drives for WAY faster than light travel. The basic concept is you have several strong gravity generators on your ship and you use one to create a gravitational field around the ship similar to earth gravity.
You will feel like you are standing on the surface of the earth and even if the ship moves or changes direction, your whole field is moving so you still only feel the gravity field of the ship, and thus don’t fall over or get splattered to the back of the ship during accelleration. Then with your other gravity generators, you point them in the direction you want to go and because the theory is that gravity propogates at several billion times the speed of light or some other such figure it’s basically instant transport along great distances.
When you read the above you might wonder what exactly it means. Basically you create a black tunnel, or a wormhole like structure, as you move towards the gravity out in front of you you are accellerating towards it at a rate, the gravity generators are moving towards it also so the point of reference stays out in front of the ship, thus you just continually accelerate towards the point and the point keeps moving.
Very shortly the gravity stacks up and becomes so great that light cannot escape or something like that and you make a tunnel through to your path, it’s basically like falling into your own black hole but you own gravity shield protects you from the effects of the outsde forces. Once you turn off the gravity generators your ship just stops. Or perhaps there is a reverse function that slows you down I’m not sure how that would work.
Apparently these gravity drives theories can explain the rediculous acceleration and change of direction capabilities of UFO’s people see. There are even some websites who claim to know exactly how the technology works, and given enough of a specific element, 115 I believe, claim to be able to make such a drive. I think there is also a GE patent on the technology, so it seems like it is a little more concrete than just science fiction.
Also DMT interests me a lot. It is a very interesting chemical and I would not mind experiencing it’s effects.
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Actually, it has been found that gravity moves at the speed of light.(approximately)
I just realised that I’m a friggin’ pessimist who likes to burst bubbles.
No, No it doesn’t, thats what textbooks and teachers pass off as fact when in reality, common sense and a little math prove that it is “instant”. Here, this says it better than I can.
http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
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You link, I link as well
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/grav_speed.html
Those concepts are a little over my head. BUT from what I can tell, they said. The newtonian model is that gravity is “instant” but besed on the relative math, since electromagnetic forces behave a certain way, they can just compare that to gravity and say thats also how gravity behaves? Then they state that no direct testing can be achieved at this point. So thiers is still just a theory, just as my origional link is. It looks as if the theories the relative model uses is elegant, complex and has some holes, whereas the newtonian model is simple and understandable with little or no holes. Either way, I’m not sold that gravity does not propogate nearly “instantly” or at least orders of magnitude faster than light speed. I’m also not sure I am willing to do years worth of learning advanced math and physics to understand thier point. It should be able to be explained more simply.
V
Lets get this stuff back on track.
Anyway, I don’t believe in instant it’s a stupid word. “Instant coffee” not instant.
Newtonian physics is supposedly outdated physics from what I’ve read. Also your absolutely correct it should be able to be explained more simply.
When we actually get near the truth it will be a lot more simple, the idea of making yourself a sandwich is ridiculously complicated until you actually know how to make a sandwich it is then simple!
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Right, Instant is just used in the place of “a billion or so times faster than the speed of light”. If you took that speed and traveled in a direction for a year, the destination would not have been reached instantly, but you would be pretty far from your starting point. Actually, I’m not sure I should even be discussing this with you. The science police may be monitoring what I know and don’t know and could call me stupid. Lets tread lightly on this topic for now.
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