[quote]Makavali wrote:
elano wrote:
Yep. Unless you believe that millions of people just made up the story for attention.
They made it up.
There probably is life out there. If they can travel to other planets as far away as ours, then they won’t be dumb enough to land on this clusterfuck of a planet.[/quote]
^This pretty much.
The fact that human interaction is firstly based on recognition and observation, tells us that even if by remote chance the supposed ‘aliens’ are nearby, why would they interact with us in the first place?
Observation is one of the best forms of gaining knowledge and understanding something that hasn’t been exposed to us for long.
There probably is life out there. If they can travel to other planets as far away as ours, then they won’t be dumb enough to land on this clusterfuck of a planet.[/quote]
Alien Abduction stories are complete BS.
Its never somebody from Aspen, Beverly Hills or an affluent area of New England who gets abducted. Its always some hick from a place like “Blowing Dirt, New Mexico”.
These aliens have developed a superior technology which allows them to FLY ACROSS THE UNIVERSE, yet in order to further their base of scientific knowledge they see fit to probe the anal cavity of some solvent-huffing redneck with a Dale Earnhardt tattoo on his ass? What could they possibly learn from such an experiment, except that slim-jims and thunderbird wine don’t make for uniform bowel movements…
There probably is life out there. If they can travel to other planets as far away as ours, then they won’t be dumb enough to land on this clusterfuck of a planet.
Alien Abduction stories are complete BS.
Its never somebody from Aspen, Beverly Hills or an affluent area of New England who gets abducted. Its always some hick from a place like “Blowing Dirt, New Mexico”.
There probably is life out there. If they can travel to other planets as far away as ours, then they won’t be dumb enough to land on this clusterfuck of a planet.
Alien Abduction stories are complete BS.
Its never somebody from Aspen, Beverly Hills or an affluent area of New England who gets abducted. Its always some hick from a place like “Blowing Dirt, New Mexico”.
These aliens have developed a superior technology which allows them to FLY ACROSS THE UNIVERSE, yet in order to further their base of scientific knowledge they see fit to probe the anal cavity of some solvent-huffing redneck with a Dale Earnhardt tattoo on his ass? What could they possibly learn from such an experiment, except that slim-jims and thunderbird wine don’t make for uniform bowel movements… [/quote]
Those are their medical students that they send here to do their extra credit lab projects.
Its never somebody from Aspen, Beverly Hills or an affluent area of New England who gets abducted. Its always some hick from a place like “Blowing Dirt, New Mexico”.
One issue though is that they might exist but in a form or dimension that we would not be able to interact with or even detect them.
Well, if you’re unable to interact and even detect them. Isn’t that pretty much the same as them not existing?
We cant see or detect dark matter but we know it exists.
No we don’t. There are several theories that model for the observed presence of extra gravitation in most galaxies. Non-radiating matter is just one of them.
Non Radiating Matter? I beleive most people beleive in the presence of Dark Matter because of the universe expanding.
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That would be dark energy which is a place holder for why we think the universe is expanding, dark matter is a place holder for the amount of gravity we see in galaxies yet all the matter that we detect in those galaxies is way too small for the behavior of said galaxies.
I don’t believe we as an intelligent species are a fluke exactly I don’t believe anything happens by chance but we could well be the only life form that has had the same amount of potential to have the intelligence that we have now. There could be another planet out there in a different galaxy where life has evolved virtually the same. There could still be dinosaurs out there on some planet because they were never wiped out by a huge extinction-event.
We could be the ultimate life-form or we could be nothing compared to some life-forms that may exist. There is no real way of telling but I think there is no way that there isn’t other life out there. We are alive ergo this whole universe is alive… There could even be lifeforms living in the vacuum of space, the potential for life is unlimited in this universe.
Having said all this regardless of how rare we may be as intelligent life on this planet, which isn’t all that rare really, having seen the capacity of intelligence among other primates and mammals we could all be wiped out in an instant and it wouldn’t really matter. I’m sure there have been countless civilizations that have been wiped out at various stages of development. The universe is so vast the ‘chance’ for everything becomes practically certain.
On alien abduction experiences, I read the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. He is a psychiatrist who did the first large scale study on hallucinogenic drugs in 1990-1995. The drug he tested was DMT, which is interesting because not only does it exist all over the place in nature, certain grasses, leaves, etc, it is also endogenous to the human body. This means your body makes it and you have a certain amount of DMT in your body at all times.
From his research, he found a lot of the experiences of the research volunteers strongly mirrored accounts of alien abductions, i.e. high pitched/high frequency humming, meeting and ‘communicating’ w/ mantis like or grey-alien type entities, etc.
He proposed a theory that this alien abduction experiences may be due to spontaneous endogenous DMT release in the human brain. He also found similarities between the experience of the research subjects and near death experiences, and suggested DMT release may be a physiologic fact when dying naturally.
Right now I think they are doing FMRI studies on the brain activites of experienced meditation practitioners who sometimes report encounters w/ sentient non-physical beings in deep mediation, to see if endogenous DMT release is a factor there as well.
[quote]BruceLeeFan wrote:
I don’t believe we was an intelligent species are a fluke exactly I don’t believe anything happens by chance but we could well be the only life form that has had the same amount of potential to have the intelligence that we have now. There could be another planet out there in a different galaxy where life has evolved virtually the same. There could still be dinosaurs out there on some planet because they were never wiped out by a huge extinction-event.
We could be the ultimate life-form or we could be nothing compared to some life-forms that may exist. There is no real way of telling but I think there is no way that there isn’t other life out there. We are alive ergo this whole universe is alive… There could even be lifeforms living in the vacuum of space, the potential for life is unlimited in this universe.
Having said all this regardless of how rare we may be as intelligent life on this planet, which isn’t all that rare really, having seen the capacity of intelligence among other primates and mammals we could all be wiped out in an instant and it wouldn’t really matter. I’m sure there have been countless civilizations that have been wiped out at various stages of development. The universe is so vast the ‘chance’ for everything becomes practically certain.[/quote]
Sure some of you have seen this and some of you have not. Looking at the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, it could boggle ones mind. I mean you’re looking at all sorts of galaxies at different stages in development. It’s hard not to imagine there’s “something” out there.
If some of these galaxies were born billions of years before ours. Only one can fantom the magnitude of intelligence that could possibly inhabit a planet in one of these galaxies. Especially if it was not disturbed by any cataclysmic events.
Look how far we have come over the past 60 years. We went from having an old tube television set. To having every gadget imaginable, huge technological advancements in consumer products, warfare,aerospace and engineering masterpieces like the Buggati Veyron!
Yet all it takes is a violent solar flare from the sun to completely wipe us of existence in a flash.
I honestly think if we did have some greater life form visit us. It would notice our great depravation in this world and they would high tail their asses out of here.
Well according to Frank Drakes equation there may be BILLIONS of civilizations.
where
N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;
and
R* is the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fl is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.
there are billions of galaxies to say that we are the only intelligent life is ridiculous… will we ever make contact… no. There is just to much ground to cover to make such a thing possible
