[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I would get smashed 3-4 nights a week drinking 1/2 a handle and then going to the bar each night. It’s just not cool. I am in college right now so I how it works.[/quote]
I feel you on this. Gets old pretty quick, I don’t know how people enjoy going to the bar 3-5x a week. Probably why I still drink too much on the occasions when I go out, otherwise it would suck. And even then I have to stay away long enough to at least kinda forget how mediocre it was.
I definitely have more fun lifting than I do while drinking.
@ austin and bigmac, are the effects in the gym worse with spirits or beer?
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
@ austin and bigmac, are the effects in the gym worse with spirits or beer?[/quote]
Usually hard liquor fucks me the most.
It’s easier for me to have 4 beers and quit, than have 4 LITs, be bombed and keep purchasing more alcohol.
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
@ austin and bigmac, are the effects in the gym worse with spirits or beer?[/quote]
My drinking practices have never included limiting myself to consumption of one type of booze in an evening lol.
I think it’s more determined by how much I drink than anything else. 1-5ish drinks typically doesn’t do anything to my gym performance, but if I put down 10-30 like an asshole then it gets iffier. Performance decrease wasn’t noticeable when I drank 6-7 nights a week last year, but I looked way worse and wasn’t moving the weights I’m moving now.
Like I said though, these days I drink way less frequently and only before off days. I can get away with 10-15 drinks in a night without feeling hung over the next day, but even if I feel fine it’s an off day anyway so I’ll stay out of the gym.
Edited.
[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:
[quote]hushmalon wrote:
I have seen athletes that didn’t drink at all and athletes that drank 40 beers a weekend and as far as strength there was no advantages either way. [/quote]
I think that the athletes drinking 40 beers a weekend would be stronger if they didn’t drink. The ones who can get away with getting shitcocked and hitting PR’s the next day would probably catch bigger PR’s if the hadn’t gotten wasted.
It’s not like you can’t drink a lot and progress, but at the same time I think it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest that you couldn’t do at least marginally better without the booze in the mix. It’s a matter of good progress vs. optimal progress.
I still drink way more than is reasonable once every week or two since I’m a second semester senior and I’m not really into skipping every opportunity to get weird at this point, but I typically only drink before planned off days. 2-3 drinks shouldn’t hurt at all[/quote]
Yes i guess you’re right, they also could lift more if they skipped class to get a morning lifting session in and take a nap before the afternoon session. But the point of my post is that no 2-3 beers wont kill you.
There were times when i would get hammered… come in the next day and kill it. Other days when i would stay in and fall apart in the weight room the next day. Alcohol didn’t have that much effect on my strength. Body comp is another story.
So no I don’t think 2-3 or three beers when you have an off day will make any difference at all… even marginally. From what I have found any progress is optimal! Better then regression!
I have found that sleep is way more important in related to strength levels then alcohol is!
Abusing Alcohol lowers Testosterone. If you can’t handle moderation don’t do it at all…That is if you are serious about this workout/bb/gym thing… 
[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
@ austin and bigmac, are the effects in the gym worse with spirits or beer?[/quote]
My drinking practices have never included limiting myself to consumption of one type of booze in an evening lol.
I think it’s more determined by how much I drink than anything else. 1-5ish drinks typically doesn’t do anything to my gym performance, but if I put down 10-30 like an asshole then it gets iffier. Performance decrease wasn’t noticeable when I drank 6-7 nights a week last year, but I looked way worse and wasn’t moving the weights I’m moving now.
Like I said though, these days I drink way less frequently and only before off days. I can get away with 10-15 drinks in a night without feeling hung over the next day, but even if I feel fine it’s an off day anyway so I’ll stay out of the gym.
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You can drink 15 drinks and NOT get hungover?? Where did you get your liver from?
[quote]hushmalon wrote:
[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:
[quote]hushmalon wrote:
I have seen athletes that didn’t drink at all and athletes that drank 40 beers a weekend and as far as strength there was no advantages either way. [/quote]
I think that the athletes drinking 40 beers a weekend would be stronger if they didn’t drink. The ones who can get away with getting shitcocked and hitting PR’s the next day would probably catch bigger PR’s if the hadn’t gotten wasted.
It’s not like you can’t drink a lot and progress, but at the same time I think it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest that you couldn’t do at least marginally better without the booze in the mix. It’s a matter of good progress vs. optimal progress.
I still drink way more than is reasonable once every week or two since I’m a second semester senior and I’m not really into skipping every opportunity to get weird at this point, but I typically only drink before planned off days. 2-3 drinks shouldn’t hurt at all[/quote]
Yes i guess you’re right, they also could lift more if they skipped class to get a morning lifting session in and take a nap before the afternoon session. But the point of my post is that no 2-3 beers wont kill you.
There were times when i would get hammered… come in the next day and kill it. Other days when i would stay in and fall apart in the weight room the next day. Alcohol didn’t have that much effect on my strength. Body comp is another story.
So no I don’t think 2-3 or three beers when you have an off day will make any difference at all… even marginally. From what I have found any progress is optimal! Better then regression!
I have found that sleep is way more important in related to strength levels then alcohol is!
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I don’t think you know what I meant by optimal. Also it’s moderately to severely asinine to discuss skipping class to sleep more and not drinking as much when going out in the same breath. Commitments vs. choices.
But I agree that 2-3 drinks won’t hurt.
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:
[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
@ austin and bigmac, are the effects in the gym worse with spirits or beer?[/quote]
My drinking practices have never included limiting myself to consumption of one type of booze in an evening lol.
I think it’s more determined by how much I drink than anything else. 1-5ish drinks typically doesn’t do anything to my gym performance, but if I put down 10-30 like an asshole then it gets iffier. Performance decrease wasn’t noticeable when I drank 6-7 nights a week last year, but I looked way worse and wasn’t moving the weights I’m moving now.
Like I said though, these days I drink way less frequently and only before off days. I can get away with 10-15 drinks in a night without feeling hung over the next day, but even if I feel fine it’s an off day anyway so I’ll stay out of the gym.
Edited.[/quote]
You can drink 15 drinks and NOT get hungover?? Where did you get your liver from?
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Lol 15 is at the top of that range for a reason. I drink less frequently now and I am much more prone to hangovers these days, especially when I go into college asshole mode and drink like that. Assuming I eat a lot and hydrate well, I can still occasionally clown like that and still escape hangover though.
But I used to ‘train’ my liver the way Broz trains his athletes. I’m pretty sure that during the Fall semester of junior year, I could count the number of nights I didn’t drink on one hand.
God I’m glad I’m not THAT much of an idiot these days.
Very well put!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hate beer. I don’t usually tell people that, but I generally just don’t like alcohol.
That doesn’t mean I am against it. It just isn’t for me.
My general philosophy is all things in moderation. The people who succeed at this are not usually the guys who stress out about all of the small shit. It is just a beer. If it becomes 5 beers a night, THEN you have a problem. The same goes for the hundreds of threads asking about marijuana. It’s the same shit. Ignoring the legal issue, if you are dropping out of school to smoke, you suck. That doesn’t mean everyone who smokes drops out of school.
The same goes for diet, your training schedule and the rest of your life.
The guys who really enjoy this shit are who will stand out. The ones giving up every bright aspect of their lives and enjoyment to slag their way to the gym are doing it wrong and won’t last.
That is why the guy who ate hamburgers can get way bigger than the guy who hated his diet the whole way through.
Cliff Notes:
Burger, burger burger.[/quote]