Why is everyone so stuck on AI
Believe me I have read the stickies 
My E2 dropped to 20 after starting trt and diet change why is it assumed that people must add more drugs?
I am off trt now free T is still below range
Total is about 600
E2 is less then 20 now.
I have other problems and trt wasn’t helping me…
Any thoughts on this.
Before trt total was a little higher free was always low or very bottom of range.
E2 was about 32 in your units
E2 is just one factor among a plethora of factors. It’s a factor directly related to TRT. If TRT is done right, and E2 is managed, AND someone doesn’t have other issues going on, then theoretically the individual should be doing well. This is often not the case, unfortunately. I’m like you. All my numbers look good on paper, but I still don’t feel 100%. This is an ongoing journey for us both. The more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know.
I have felt better when tests said my E2 was around 60 than when my E2 was at 17. That’s why I generally stress that we are not all the same and it’s about how YOU feel, not what the tests say.
But why always AI advice???
Why not clean your fucking diet stop drinking and give the liver a break…
I’m not being rude I just hate all this drug use.
I have a thyroid problem thanks to iodine loading…
Rt3 is in the top of range also but It possible I have Lyme disease 
So lost…
By the way I think alot of people who can’t get the endocrine system intact even with help from drugs need to seriously look at Lyme
I like you and don’t think I was swearing at you cause I wasnt
That’s a good question and I don’t have a very good answer. Diet and alcohol play a large part and their importance aren’t stressed enough on here.
At one point I was chasing a rabbit hole that led to multiple supplements costing a lot of money every month. I downsized to just a few I felt were essential for good health.
I wish I were more knowledgeable on the thyroid. Iodine loading has actually caused issues for you? I haven’t heard that before. What makes you think you have Lyme disease?
I know you weren’t swearing at me. It’s all good, brother.
Psychological problems can manifest themselves into physiological issues. This is understated by many people. I have gone through a period in the last 7 days doing meditation and relieving myself from all thought patterns. I have, as a result, been able to subject myself to zero thought for 10 minutes at a time. This may seam trivial, but I have gained a lot of mental energy, clarity and happiness, even though I was a calm and relatively happy person myself.
Thinking a lot alone can activate your adrenal system because it makes you highly aroused. My dramatic visualizations of my future would make me to excited and as a consequence would stress my adrenal system. Remember, your arousal and stress system is the same.
I have about 70 out of 100 symptoms of Lyme
It’s the only thing that explains symptoms and it effects every part of the body in some.
Even with all I’m going through I still don’t feel depressed and I handle it quite well considering all the symptoms.
I will write them down in a Lyme disease post when I have time cause I think more people on here new to be aware
I’ve only recently become aware of Lymes after moving to a tick-infested area. I hope that your symptoms are caused by something else.
I have to hit the sack. Will continue this thread tomorrow.
And it doesn’t seem trivial at all to me… Sounds logical
Try it iw84, it’s hard at first but you have nothing to lose. Btw, I pmed you.
aces,
I want to stress to you to NOT advise others against iodine. In every study I have read, it only serves to benefit. Much like vitamin D, many seem to be deficient in this day and age.
I’m all about bucking the system and defying “the man”, but there is a distinct correlation between hypothyroidism, low body temperatures, and iodine deficiency.
Just because it didn’t work for you, doesn’t mean it won’t work well for others.
Do not take this as an attack on you. You have issues that T-Nation hasn’t resolved. I’m in the same situation. I would recommend against deterring other from what might be helpful to them.
50 mg is to much… I listed tons of threads showing what happens… I disagree and I don’t this the advice is good here
First
No one is running labs while they are doing it cause they are not under a doctors care
50 mg is 333 times the recommended daily
I started having hot flashes on the second day and it made me sick
Then I recieve a phone call my friend feels like his is going to die and is having heart palpitations
Spent 8 hours in the hospital with his throat closing up
Ksman advises iodine is iodine doesn’t matter, WRONG iodine/ iodide play different roles and enter different cells
Ksman doesn’t advise any other nutrients with his high dose loading and they should be implemented.
He so doesn’t advise testing for hashimotos or graves which should be ruled out BEFORE taking any large dose of iodine/iodide
someone who could be genetically prone to hashi or graves who may have been able to keep I. Under control would Induce the autoimmune thyroid proble
With the loading…
As I said I have listed many links and ksman had them taken down.
My point of view will not change
Let it be known that I have been fully tested and it still messed me up so who is to say it wouldn’t screw other up…
No one here is a doctor and ksman is on every drug under the sun if you try and tell me this is the right approach I will disagree, maybe that’s why he has so many issues that he needs all these drugs… Cause he takes to much shit…
Ksman doesn’t know jack shit besides what he has read on the Internet and his personal experience just the same as you and I and not one of us can say we understand the human body so why would your point or his point be any more valid then mine… Everyone’s body is different an we all react differently to different things.
He is getting a god complex and he is far from god cause he is starting to become rude and demeaning to people running around telling them they have a learning disability… So what if they do??? Many here har brain fog and problems that’s why they are here trying to find help.
I am not about screw the man I am about help thy brother…
I like you man and I choose to agree to disagree
Plus everyone here told me if I can get E2 lower free T would raise… Umm E2 is now below 20 and free T sits below range as usual…
I think people have alot of advice but maybe they don’t know as much as they think they do.
This includes myself
[quote]iw84aces wrote:
50 mg is to much… I listed tons of threads showing what happens… I disagree and I don’t this the advice is good here
First
No one is running labs while they are doing it cause they are not under a doctors care
50 mg is 333 times the recommended daily
I started having hot flashes on the second day and it made me sick
Then I recieve a phone call my friend feels like his is going to die and is having heart palpitations
Spent 8 hours in the hospital with his throat closing up
Ksman advises iodine is iodine doesn’t matter, WRONG iodine/ iodide play different roles and enter different cells
Ksman doesn’t advise any other nutrients with his high dose loading and they should be implemented.
He so doesn’t advise testing for hashimotos or graves which should be ruled out BEFORE taking any large dose of iodine/iodide
someone who could be genetically prone to hashi or graves who may have been able to keep I. Under control would Induce the autoimmune thyroid proble
With the loading…
As I said I have listed many links and ksman had them taken down.
My point of view will not change
Let it be known that I have been fully tested and it still messed me up so who is to say it wouldn’t screw other up…
No one here is a doctor and ksman is on every drug under the sun if you try and tell me this is the right approach I will disagree, maybe that’s why he has so many issues that he needs all these drugs… Cause he takes to much shit…
Ksman doesn’t know jack shit besides what he has read on the Internet and his personal experience just the same as you and I and not one of us can say we understand the human body so why would your point or his point be any more valid then mine… Everyone’s body is different an we all react differently to different things.
He is getting a god complex and he is far from god cause he is starting to become rude and demeaning to people running around telling them they have a learning disability… So what if they do??? Many here har brain fog and problems that’s why they are here trying to find help.
I am not about screw the man I am about help thy brother…
I like you man and I choose to agree to disagree[/quote]
I understand your point. I really do. Honestly, we need more people around here who are the exceptions and what works for most doesn’t work for them. I’m not asking you to change your point of view. Just your delivery of that information to others. They may not have the same response as you did. I’m sorry you and your friend had such a terrible experience.
As for KSman, we all know no one here is a doctor, but he has been doing this for several years if you do a little google digging. This is not to say he is always correct. We both know the HPTA is too intricate and delicate for anyone to master, doctor or not, but I always take his advice into account when I’m searching for answers.
That said, I live by a mantra in my job. “Trust, but verify”. Anything anyone says, if I don’t know it to be fact, I research the hell out of it. This goes for all of his advice as well.
He doesn’t have a god complex. He’s actually quite humble about his knowledge. He is just old and grumpy and gets short with people sometimes because he’s said the same thing a million times.
I’m glad you are here, Aces. You add depth and knowledge and we all need as much as we can get around here.
Thanks for your understanding. I will think about how I can better approach the issue… The problem is I asked him only to recommend antibody testing before implementing IR.
Even though I don’t have antibodies above range I felt this was fair to ask not for me but for others.
He refused and continues with them same old.
I am disappointed because I believed in the guy and really I no longer can say that I do.
People post a full page of labs and ask questions and he answers non of them. He dodges the questions and answers only what he he wants to.
I believe he knows a shit load of stuff… I also believe he will not evolve past what he knows.
I know very little in the big scheme of things but I never claimed too and I never asked for all this info and then had no answers.
People go and pay hundreds of dollars for labs at his request and he ignores them man…
Take a look at my thread how many times I bumped and asked the same question over and over…
I could have saved myself alot of time by just reading onto own then putting faith in him.
This is a trt forum not an iodine forum… All he talks about is damn body temperatures…
I know he has helped you and many others and I have stated many times I respect him for that. At the same time if your gonna be a grumpy prick about it go for a long walk off a short cliff lol
The only reason I am still here is because I know how hard it was to get a simple answer and although I don’t know much I know a little and sometimes it all it takes to help someone
Your a good man
[quote]iw84aces wrote:
I have about 70 out of 100 symptoms of Lyme
It’s the only thing that explains symptoms and it effects every part of the body in some.
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I read your posts and hope you don’t mind me jumping in. Have you been tested at least twice for Lyme?
Btw, I had it and went to a very good doctor and ended up at an Infectious Decease Specialist. I know more about Lyme then I ever wanted to know! I’m a pro-active guy when it comes to my wellbeing so I research and ask a lot of questions. If I can help you at all, PLEASE ASK!
We currently only test band 31 here in canada and in order to get the western blot test you have to pass the ELISA which as you know is a bogus test esp when not using the c 6 peptide ELISA.
I am fighting with everyone to get tested properly but it’s a losing battle and I am picking up my test kit from Igenex Monday from the naturopath.
I will ask you one question
Where are you located and who is your doctor and what was his approach?
Did you see a homeopathic doctor after antibiotics?
Where did you get tested?
That’s more then one but on well
Thanks for jumping in as I feel we can all learn from one another
It actually shows your a good human being and ofcourse I dont mind
Thanks bro