[quote]Mancador wrote:
How do you train against knockout punches, Im not talking about dodging to avoid the punch, but how to get you chin more resistant? Will receiving repetitive impact to the head eventually make you more resistant? [/quote]
I’m thinking that you’re going to end up like Mohammed Ali. Or make yourself stupid… I wouldn’t advice anybody to repeatedly take punches to the head as a means to strengthen your chin, neither would i take lightly to such advice aimed towards me.
look up bone remodling on youtube, the more impact a bone or muscle takes the more resiliant it is, its how men break bricks with there fists and dont break bones,
same with muscles it stops you getting dead legs etc.
nearly every part of the body gets used to impact and will become more resiliant including the brain through light impact training (not banging heads on walls)
im very interested in impact training and do alot of research into it,
genetics play the most important part, but everyone can improve.
Ahh… i think it’s risky, maybe you should just keep your chin down and your hands up
[quote]frankyboy7 wrote:
look up bone remodling on youtube, the more impact a bone or muscle takes the more resiliant it is, its how men break bricks with there fists and dont break bones,
same with muscles it stops you getting dead legs etc.
nearly every part of the body gets used to impact and will become more resiliant including the brain through light impact training (not banging heads on walls)
im very interested in impact training and do alot of research into it,
genetics play the most important part, but everyone can improve.[/quote]
you were right on point till you started talking about getting hit in the head. YOUR BRAIN DOESN’T REPAIR FROM DAMAGE! Thats why they find that once you’ve had a concussion your more likely to get another. I think your all missing the point. The best way to not get knocked out is not to get hit in the head clean or hard. What i mean is learn the fucking fundamentals. Head Movement and foot work will keep you from taking to many hard shots. Look at pretty much all the greats and you will see good head movement, defending with perries and blocks, and they never stay stationary. They never get complacent in a fight!
Always coming in at different angles screwing with there opponents timing and not letting them get off solid strike. I believe my dad/couch said it best when i asked him the same question. Qoute" DONT GET HIT IN THE FUCKING HEAD!"
[quote]silkyhorse wrote:
[quote]Mancador wrote:
How do you train against knockout punches, Im not talking about dodging to avoid the punch, but how to get you chin more resistant? Will receiving repetitive impact to the head eventually make you more resistant? [/quote]
I’m thinking that you’re going to end up like Mohammed Ali. Or make yourself stupid… I wouldn’t advice anybody to repeatedly take punches to the head as a means to strengthen your chin, neither would i take lightly to such advice aimed towards me.[/quote]
How the hell did i miss this thread it’s pure gold. This is some funny shit. You can punch yourself in the face or you can learn some skills and strengthen your neck like every successful boxer/fighter.
Or you can be like Lyoto and NEVER getting hit on your face.
So, bear in mind I don’t actively fight. However, these things are relevant for many athletes.
As a hockey player, and a small one who was dumb enough to play hard, I was exposed to hits. Now, thankfully I am a part of the multitude of young athletes who go absolutely nowhere with their sport but still played for a long time. Essentially, I received innumerable blows, however there is solace in the thought that at least the kids I was playing against were generally of the same calibre as myself. That is to say, competent to teach a young child the fundamentals. Talented sure, especially because it isn’t like skating is a natural motion.
Here are things I think apply across a broad spectrum
Always keep your head moving.
Hockey coaches will say always keep your head on a swivel. You need to know where your teammates are, and where the opponent is. Coincidentally, never keep your head down. See Eric Lindros.
Strength train.
I played harder than I could physically. Plain and simple, I was smaller and weaker than my opponents. Though I was quick and intelligent, I was extremely vulnerable. I took a pounding, forget about a concussion. There is only one was to develop the musculature necessary to protect your body and soul, and it requires consistent time and work. The athlete who doesn’t train is either sublime or retired.
The case of the koala
I once watched a hilarious video of a koala falling 60 feet from a tree. Ideally, there would be a man with a net to catch the falling koala and neutralize it. And do what it is they wanted a koala who was 60 in the air for. Nonetheless, the plan worked flawlessly until the koala decided that it would not land in the net and instead on the ground below. I admit, there was a slope, yet the koala still caught many feet of air on the bounce yet managed to hit the ground running on the second bounce in a frenzied effort to escape.
If you are not fighting to save your life whenever you engage in physical competition, stop.
The flop
When the koala landed, there was another interesting phenomenon we should observe. When you now you are fucked, that split second before you land or collide, you have a chance to think one thought. You will often see players on the ice begin to hide from a collision. Even prematurely avoid the physical contest. This is because the fight has been kicked out of them. If you cannot take a hit you will quit. Getting hit hurts. Everyone. There are two ways to handle a hit. Stoicism, where the hit is at some degree accepted as a symptom to expect. You are utilizing your body as a weapon, you must trust in its solidity. Or, you will see the turtle.
Your body
Will run as efficiently as your want it too. That is up to you.
I don’t know what I would do in a fight with an obviously superior fighter. If someone can and is trying to hurt you, how do you react?
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Ahh… i think it’s risky, maybe you should just keep your chin down and your hands up[/quote]
+1.
Any fighter who doesn’t learn this first deserves the repeated KO’s they receive. It’s called orthodox because for the majority of people it works the majority of the time.
Unless your last name is Mayweather, don’t drop your hands.
i’d second the advice to strengthen the neck and learn head movement and footwork.
but in reality, i think it’s more or less a trait similar to striking power…either you have it, or you don’t.
Good defense and footwork should be the first thing, and I mean first thing someone learns in ANY art.
Then id say strengthen the neck and traps.
You can only do so much to physically improve how your jaw can take a punch. Neck exercises may do something.
More importantly, don’t break eye contact/stop watching for punches and do your best not to flinch/blink. This is especially difficult when a punch is coming right at you and when a beginner ducks or moves their head improperly.
[quote]Ignant wrote:
You can only do so much to physically improve how your jaw can take a punch. Neck exercises may do something.
More importantly, don’t break eye contact/stop watching for punches and do your best not to flinch/blink. This is especially difficult when a punch is coming right at you and when a beginner ducks or moves their head improperly.[/quote]
I’m diggin the neck exercise reminder. I’ve kind of been slacking off in this section.
Could be actually train like the shaolin monks though and gain resistance by tapping our jaws for 2 hours a day or better yet just tapping our heads or letting someone else do it off and on? There was a documentary about this on history channel before. Check into it…Then again the jaw resistance build is such an enigma.