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I meanā¦ Dolph Lundgren also smokedā¦ a lotā¦
Dolph Lundgren won Cigar Smokers of the Year award amid cancer | MEAWW
Iām sure this has NOTHING to do with the LUNG cancer he was diagnosed with in 2015. If he wound up with testicular cancer, cancer of the liver or kidney Iād probably attribute it to the roidz.
While steroids donāt helpā¦ I doubt they caused his lung cancer. Many will specify they donāt inhale their cigarsā¦ Iāve inhaled almost every cigar Iāve ever smoked, not that Iām a big cigar smoker (weddings, whenever I spend time with my uncle etc)
Iām fairly sure most cigar smokerās inhale.
Dolph Lundgren also has an IQ of 160 (genius), was a 4th dan black belt in kyokushin karate (about as legit as karate gets) and lifted weights his whole life. He also trained in boxing forā¦ I think maybe 6 months prior to Rocky IV. He almost killed Stallone during the filming process of Rocky IV.
While Kyokushin Karate has itās own set of flawsā¦ Kyokushin practitioners donāt wear gloves/protective padding. A guy like Dolph Lundgren (already a massive guy) can punch you as hard as he wants without worrying about a wrist/hand injury.
He is a scary, scary guyā¦
The Swedish actor told Bensinger that doctors in Los Angeles found a cancerous tumor in his kidney in 2015.
After he underwent surgery, during which six tumors were removed, Lundgren recalled: āThereās a picture that I was going to direct and star in that was starting in the fall. The doctor called me when I was in Alabama ready to shoot and said, āThey found one more tumor in the liver.āā
(also, you should read your own linkā¦)
I thought it was lung cancer?
Dolph Lundgren reveals heās been battling cancer for the past 8 years (joblo.com)
It appears his lung cancer metastasised to his kidneys. If the lung cancer came firstā¦ probably not the steroids.
If the liver/kidney cancer came first, probably related to AAS. I donāt know how long he used for, though I know back in the 80ās it wasnāt uncommon to use hepatotoxic agents for long durations of time.
From what you linked:
The 65-year-old actor made his first public admission that he was initially given the kidney cancer diagnosis in 2015 on the May 10 broadcast of āIn Depthā. After the surgery, he was symptom-free for nearly five years before it was revealed in 2020, that he had more tumors in his kidney and liver, per TMZ.
You are correct, a quick google search indicates the cancer was initially detected in his kidneys.
Could be related to AAS, although smokers are also more likely to develop cancer of the kidney. Some people who live clean lifestyles also develop this type of cancer.
Given his pastā¦ Itās safe to say his smoking and steroid use didnāt help. Heās probably right, although itās likely more of a 1+1=3 type of situation.
Arnold also smoked cigars.
Little known facts about Dolf:
He holds patents on both the mic drop and the sick burn.
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Could you imagine getting low kicked from a guy like Dolph Lundgreen?
He punched Sylvester Sallone so hard that Sly developed a blunt cardiac injury and almost diedā¦
From a punchā¦
People joke around about karate being BS due to the McDogo isation of the art. But karate WAS legit at one point in time, and if you find a good dojo itās still legit. Flaw with Kyokushin is lack of punches to the head. The style used to have head punches, but the dynamic of bare-knuckle punches to the head led to lots of fractured metacarpals, superficial wounds like facial lacerations, black eyes and broken noses. So now itās punches to the body (some competition formats allow punches to head, but exception to the rule) and kicks/knees to the head. This is dumb because although it is harder to land a knee or kick to the head unless you are much taller than your opponent or extremely flexible
Kyokushin Karate dojos are still around, but the IKO split up into different disorganised fashions after Mas Oyama (founder of kyokushin) died. There are a few around here, and Iāve thought about giving it a shot as I was almost 1st dan before I quit karate at the age of fifteen with seven years of cumulative experience (semi contact i.e full contact sparring with gloves and shinguards but only kicks/knees to face allowed). But Iām probably going to opt for BJJ given how flexible I amā¦ and I donāt really like the idea of getting hit in the head for years on end. I probably only have 5-10 years left of being able to be active to any decent capacity. Thatās if I donāt die from an aneurism, arrhythmia, ruptured hernia and/or the other things that can go wrong with connective tissue disease that I have.
@SkyzykS How do you cope with an uncertain future? I ask because Iāve had to re-align my priorities and goals from long term ambition to āliving in the momentā. Thatās more/less what my psychologist and a few doctors have told me to do. Iāve been told I might wind up totally fucked, or I might wind up fine albeit with progressively worsening chronic pain (that I have now).
There is no way to know. Abstaining from high impact activity lessens risk, but I donāt want to live walking on eggshellsā¦ that and of those with my condition iāve spoken to who do participate in sportā¦ they seem to be way better off than those who remain sedentary.
My physiotherapist told me Iām the highest functioning EDS patient sheās ever met in terms of strength, muscle tone, athleticism etc. Thatās because Iāve been lifting and participating in sport for most of my life (body that gets in motion stays in motion).
Iāve also been told to never get my hopes up about being able to have kids due to my pituitary insufficiency + minor testicular pathology. Even if I wanted kids, thereās a 50% chance I pass my condition onto them, and the child has to live out a life of pain. But if I canāt have kids (and as a result no decent woman will want to be with me) then what is the purpose of life? If the meaning of life not to raise offspring and guide them throughout their own unique journey until they do the same and so on and so fourth?
There is no answer. My autism brain likes certainty, and now I have no certainty. Iām supposed to just take it one day at a time, but I like meticulously planning out my goals and the methodology Iāll abide by to reach said goalposts.
I know Iāll never have a normal life and Iāve known something was wrong for a while but was hoping itād be something relatively benign. Iāve had a few people tell me to adopt the stupid teenage YOLO philosophy that I had when I was eighteen because āI might as well have fun while I canā. Outside of this forum, Iām trying to keep the diagnosis a secret although my folks blabbedā¦
What āfunā is there to be had if Iāve more/less āexperimentedā quite a bit throughout my adolescence and I no longer find that paradigm exciting. I was so sad post diagnosis that I slept for 2-3 days because Iām somewhat fucked, the condition is degenerative.
There is some validity to the ālife fast and die youngā bullshit analogy. Even if a cure is synthesised, itāll probably come in the form of gene editing software that cures people before they are born. Many with my condition wind up crippled/miserable by the time they hit their 40ās and 50ās. Over half wind up on disability or unable to hold down a full-time job. I also assume most decondition into a lump of goo, I believe resistance training and sport has saved me from further deterioration.
This has me wonderingā¦ what do I do?
But I keep getting advice from people who havenāt the slightest clue what itās like to live with chronic, debilitating conditions. Iām a walking pharmacy, this isnāt what I signed up for just as you didnāt sign up to have heart failure at the age of 43! Notwithstanding thatās another risk for me if I donāt stay on top of my meds/manage the IST adequately.
How do I come to terms with a reality that I canāt accept? I know Iāve probably got 5-10 decent years left. I need to capitalise on that, travel (vacation), study academia and try leave an imprint that helps others before Iām too decrepit to do anything. Iām not doing myself any favours by deciding to stick with martial arts (granted Iāll bump my training frequency down to 2-3x/wk from my past 6x/wk 2-3x per day), but Iām stubborn and wonāt stop until Iām literally paralysed from the waist down.
I know in some countries overseas they do offer physician assisted euthanasia for EDS when it gets bad enough. Iād never consider this now, but itās something Iāll always keep in mind as itās likely going to be a viable option 30 years from now.
How do you avoid worrying about the future?
Iāll come back to this.
Im in the middle of a couple things that will take a few hours.
Better yet: ping me in my log so that we arenāt clotting up the main page.
I own a trt clinic. My patients average test level is 800 on a 200mg a week cyp dose.
Not a steroid cycle. High-ish normal at best.
Not cookie cutter and is a changing science with todays nutrition and lifestyle environment.
Mild life long steroid cycle gets readers but is not close to true.
Who wants to die an old man alone in a bed? Summon the Valkyrieās for tonight, we dine in Valhalla!
Do you have more data you can pull to compare for the below? Dose response trend line shows 200mg/wk = 1500ng/dL average.
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have to pay attention to troughs not peaks. Because the half-life of the medication and how itās administered. My patients all do subacute ministration.
So obviously, my data is HIPAA protected because theyāre my patients but itās routine week after week averaging between seven and 900 more towards the 800 range.
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What gets me is the number of young guys on ātrtā right now. This wouldāve been unheard of in the 80ās and 90ās. But due to all the chemicals that are being put in our food, especially fast food, we are all becoming feminine but nobody questions their government for allowing this crap.
Hell, men in government prefer trannys now and want you to get with the program and cut your dick off.
Sorry to get off topic but drug use is becoming mainstream now and everyday theres a new topic involving its use outside of bodybuilding but they still wont legalize it, but yet, they will pay to have your junk cutoff and that ok?
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Legalize which drug?
Dykstra played minor league baseball in Jackson, MS. In Jackson back in the day, he worked out at a local gym where I went. He maybe went 185 lbs. back then (good guess) and was not big or even particularly athletic looking. Iām not a big baseball fan, but the next time I saw him on tv (Phillies) he looked like the Hulk. Obviously, he had been taking a special vitamin regimen, ha.
So regardless of the fact that they spend over half the week well above this tested 800-900ng/dl range you only pay attention to the trough day? 
Simple testosterone. Youād think with all women wanting to turn into men, you could buy over the counter.
Nope
Half lives and subq
And even if theyāre above that āhalf the weekā
What level constitutes a āsteroid cycleā?
Lab value top end varies as much as 700 high to 12-1300 high.
So again, not a lifelong cycle
And above all this, total T isnāt what to watch
Free t being in range more important.
Let me include @anon6371718 and @anon18050987
What is the highest Total Testosterone has any of the T-Nation members had tested who never took any exogenous testosterone? I hear about the 1,100 to 1,300ng/dL Total Testosterone numbers are the upper range. Has anyone been there? If anything we seem to have a contest about who has the lowest Total Testosterone.
Also, someone on exogenous testosterone who tests 800ng/dL in the trough, what would their peak be? Average? If I owned a TRT clinic, I would make an effort to empirically test every day from after injection to just before the next injection, even if I had to do it on myself. I am not suggesting that a peak above 1,500ng/dL is dangerous, because I donāt know.
Also, for what itās worth, the most testosterone I ever took while competing was 200mg/wk testosterone cypionate. (ten day out for stage exception where I took 100mg/day testosterone suspension.)
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