You have good detail. What precise percent body fat? I don’t know. Even if you had it tested are you sure the measurement would be precise?
You have that recorded in a photograph. That is what you looked like. My question was always, “When I step on stage will there be someone there with more definition?” That was all that mattered as to my percent body fat. I didn’t have overbearing size, so I relied mostly on my conditioning.
I think you’ve earned the right. Just my two cents
Thanks!
The 4% have never stepped foot in any gym nor lifted anything heavier than a bag of groceries.
The 12% also think they are sitting at 12% BF with no visible abs.
The 83% give me hope for humanity.
… where’s the last 1%?
The 4% have no idea where it is.
The 12% are asking the same thing.
Just stumbled across an old (terrible) pic of Mike O’Hearn, John Meadows, and Amit Sapir that I took in Vegas. Since O’Hearn was discussed above somewhere, I thought it would make for a fun comparison photo.
Funny story, when Amit and John started squatting half the plates in the gym, Mike said, “Ok, fine, I’m going to go be a model now.” He’s a funny dude.
Jeebus!
That’s like those pics of The Rock with Shaquille and Barkley.
I met O’Hearn in the early 90’s. We flew him in do a cover shoot for MM2K. Seems like a decent guy, but I wish he’d get off the “natural” schtick.
Yeah I didn’t realize O Hearn was that tall. Had to google it but that is what 6’3" looks like next to 5’6".
@TC_Luoma did you read this new interview by our mutual acquaintance Rick Collins? It covers matters related to this thread.
I might post this in the thread about Liver King considering the man interviewed is the one who spilled the beans about him.
No, I hadn’t, but thanks to you I just did.
Great read. Thanks for sharing.
Is that when Mountain Dog was still rockin’ the chops?
Achieving the levels of BF being discussed has to be focus of the training regiment at the exclusion of other activities. To get to sub 10% or sub 15% over late 50’s (depending on genetics, but you get the point) it has to be your focus. Margin of error gets very slim, even a weekend travel can set you back. Life in itself will, such as non-training related health issues.
There comes a point of where is it worth it? Is 12-15% (depending on genetics) with moderate discipline worth it? That is where I try to live, 15% (17% during holidays). Law of diminishing returns, when is the effort no longer worth the sacrifice? If I don’t hit 10%, does it matter? My views on this have changed dramatically from my 20’s through 40’s. Even if I get down to 10 to 12%, can I maintain it year round? I have found no, but others will disagree. Matter of priorities.
Now if you are using PEDs, all bets are off.
My personal experience is that getting sub 15% while having a life is very difficult. I got down to 13% when I was 54 years old by lifting first thing in the morning (531), riding my bike to and from work, seven miles each way, and restricting my calories and carbs.
@robstein had just done his prep for a contest, and @BrickHead was starting his. I followed them and mimicked their prep, which was under the guidance of Stu Yellin for both of them.
I saw @robstein on stage in Brooklyn - took a train in but did not get to meet up with him. He looked ripped and huge at something like 153 compared to 185 walking around - just guessing.
I am guessing both were around five percent. Which is unsustainable, unhealthy, and undesirable. That’s why it’s called a peak.
After I got sub 15% for a summer, I went right back to 18% which seems to be where my body likes to hang out. I am 59, so 18% is not bad. I would like to be at 15%, but it’s not worth skipping that donut.
What a show, I wish we could have met up! It was truly amazing that you came out!
“Is it worth it” - IMO ENTIRELY up to the individual. I maintain a 10%ish percent year round, I’ve found the best combination of sustainable, enjoyable, healthy and conditional to a level that makes me feel good about my physique, as a natural it takes a lot of discipline with nutrition which has just become a lifestyle. On stage I was probably 5%BF, my height is 5’4", I was 141lbs on stage and about 165lbs in the off season. Prep logs available to see the journey!
This is year 2 in 2017 - my 2016 is linked in the 2017 log.
He’s drinking a fifth of d-bol!
Yeah and that’s also him at 30 in the first picture. Pretty close to your prime. Second picture he’s mid 40s; no longer in your prime.
