Absolutely 0 Progress in Arms

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[quote]Apothecary wrote:
Didn’t you say in one of your other 9 threads that you were doing 300+ fats and low-carb?

You said before that you gained 10, 12, 20, and 20+ kg over the past 2, 3, or 4 months (again, depending on which thread). At 6’2" and currently 150-160lbs (again, depending on which thread), that’d put you at like 110-130lbs AT SIX FOOT TWO when you started. I am about 6’2" myself, and currently 185-190, and I have no idea how I could function missing 65+ pounds. And at 185, I’m pretty small; even at a low BF level and lifts that are 2-3x yours, I don’t really look like I lift unless I’m shirtless.

You have multiple discussions going on about arms, squats, and diet, and each one of them says something different. Every time people try and offer you REAL advice, you give a different response. Granted, your replies are quite funny (lol, milk eats your bones, and now how we need 12+ hrs of sleep are 2 of my favorites), but you’re disrespecting the people who are genuinely trying to help. People who are trying to correct and tweak your diet, when the info you are giving out is both so insanely improbable and always different, making it a waste of their time.

I don’t think you have any idea what 5000 calories looks like, or how to estimate macro portions. “What, EXACTLY, did you eat yesterday?” I don’t think you really put on 20+ kg in a few months, given that you’ve spent more time program hopping than actually lifting. And I don’t think that worrying about your curls and SICK GUNZ when you’re benching 95 is the best idea.

Not to be a total downer, just wanted to offer a reality check. If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize and eat my hat.[/quote]
I did. That was old macros, high fat diet for bulking isn’t very good I learned. Trial and error, + research. That is why I am on this forum it is part of my research so I can learn what to do.

I never lied about my weight gain, lol. I started at 57kg/125lb and now I am 70.5kg/155lb. Started lifting about 4 and a half months ago. it is going to be 5 soon. I was Auschwitz status when I started.

The milk thing, relax yeah I read a couple articles saying that, believed it for about a week, calmed down a bit came back to earth saw how it was stupid. I drink 1-3 cups of milk a day, lol. I didn’t say everyone needs 12+ hours of sleep. I said that I need up to or 12 hours. Note the I, and the lack of a +. Because as mentioned before I am a 16 year old in the prime of his development, I go to the gym, I walk to and from school (partly) and participate in school sports. I go through phases where I just pass out when i lay down at home when coming back from school if I don’t get consistently 10-11 every night. What coincidentally happens at the end of the month-ish phase? tons of fresh stretch marks.

where did you get 20+kg from??? lol enough with the exaggerations. Its 13.5kg.

Program hopping… You went from exaggerating to making things up. I have been on one program, stronglifts, which I started 3 and a half weeks ago. Before that I was doing a standard bro split. That. Is. It.

I’m not worrying about “sick guns” lol… I am worried that I am making pathetic progress in my “guns”.

Vid of eating hat now pls.

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[quote]Massthetics wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Massthetics wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Massthetics wrote:

My bench is stalled, im not curling any heavier.

My squat has gone up 40lb this month and my quads are blowing up,

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See the correlation?
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no[/quote]

I apologise. Let me reword that.

You have no progress in your arms because:

Your bench is stalled, you’re not curling any heavier.

You are currently seeing progress in your legs because:

Your squat has gone up 40lb this month and your quads are blowing up.

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I haven’t been curling any heavier because I just cannot, I don’t have the strength. Your suggesting progressive overload?
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Ok. Let’s try again.

To see further progress in your arms, you need to:

Get stronger.

To get stronger, you must:

Acquire strength which you currently do not have.

Which includes, but is not limited to:

Unstalling your bench, curling heavier.

References:

“My squat has gone up 40lb this month and my quads are blowing up,”

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Matey no one likes you because even when you ask for advice you’re a fucken know it all.

Instead of answering back every time your pride is injured, listen to the experienced people who are offering advice.

Best of luck with the noodles.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Massthetics wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Massthetics wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Massthetics wrote:

My bench is stalled, im not curling any heavier.

My squat has gone up 40lb this month and my quads are blowing up,

[/quote]

See the correlation?
[/quote]
no[/quote]

I apologise. Let me reword that.

You have no progress in your arms because:

Your bench is stalled, you’re not curling any heavier.

You are currently seeing progress in your legs because:

Your squat has gone up 40lb this month and your quads are blowing up.

[/quote]
I haven’t been curling any heavier because I just cannot, I don’t have the strength. Your suggesting progressive overload?
[/quote]

Ok. Let’s try again.

To see further progress in your arms, you need to:

Get stronger.

To get stronger, you must:

Acquire strength which you currently do not have.

Which includes, but is not limited to:

Unstalling your bench, curling heavier.

References:

“My squat has gone up 40lb this month and my quads are blowing up,”
[/quote]

seems legit. part of my problem was actually unstalling my bench but ok.

[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
Instead of answering back every time your pride is injured, listen to the experienced people who are offering advice.[/quote]
nice bald spot.

also when did that ever happen.

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Just leave this clown to his own devices.

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I know the answer to all your questions, OP.

ARE YOU READY?

Maturity, no physical exercise will ever make you truly stronger without it.

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Calm down.

You got some good answers.

The stalling on your bench, that should be your number one priority. Forget any arm training right now, and figure out how to get your bench moving. In the long run, this will do more for getting you bigger overall than focusing on getting big arms right now.

If you really really care about arms though, all you have to do is ask those people around you what they’re doing for their arms. Just understand that focusing on arms now will likely come at the cost of overall growth.

In the meanwhile, consider tweaking your form so that you get more bicep stimulation out of your back work, and tricep stimulation out of your pressing work, but make sure you’re solidly progressing in your core lifts. If you’re not, it’s pretty much a matter of not recovering well, not providing proper stimulation (too many/few reps, too much/little volume, too much/little frequency), or not eating well.

And hit the protein hard. I can’t believe how much of a difference it made once I decided to significantly increase my protein intake. I was already getting what I thought was enough from milk and meat… but adding in some additional protein shakes actually made a big difference.

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Oh… and learn to have some patience. Even one month of doing something isn’t long enough to really determine if it’s working. Personally, I’m finding that it takes 2-3 months to begin to answer that question.

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We probably should’ve seen this coming. It’s not like the kid didn’t warn us.

[quote]Massthetics wrote:
I only do 15 at the end of the week to CATCH UP on missed sleep.[/quote]
The majority of sleep experts agree that the body cannot really “catch up” on missed sleep. Consistent sleeping patterns throughout the week are more beneficial than sleeping too little and then gorging one or two nights a week.

For someone your age and height/weight, 1-2 pounds a week is slow progress. And that’s because you’re not eating enough. Period.

I didn’t say anything close to “sleep isn’t important.” I said that, for gaining bodyweight, sleep is relatively-less important than total daily calories.

If the choice is between sleeping 10 hours a night or sleeping 8 hours and eating an extra 1,500-2,000 calories, the path that allows ample nutrition will lead to greater recovery and growth.

Not sure where you’re getting anything about fat storage. The argument could be made that high calorie intake combined with longer periods of sleep is what would lead to more fat gain, since the metabolic rate is lower when sleeping. But in any case, fat gain isn’t/shouldn’t be a major concern of yours yet.

It’s not pointless, it’s crucial. Underweight guys almost always underestimate their calorie intake, which is what you basically did when you stopped tracking. You might think you’re eating “a lot” or “enough”, but the scale’s lack of significant movement is telling a different story.

And if there’s one thing we know about adding muscle and strength, it’s that avoiding extra effort is the right choice.

Could be and should be in the prime of his development, but isn’t yet.

What sports do you do?

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You arrogant fucker

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This OP is a fool. No point wasting time on him.

Just wanted to chime in though and say that Colucci’s posts are quite excellent in this thread. So perhaps something useful can come of this thread for some of the beginner lifters reading this. Not the OP of course, he’s got all the answers. Why, his bench is at a massive 95 lbs. Clearly there is nothing you guys have to help him out.

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[quote]SevenDragons wrote:
This OP is a fool. No point wasting time on him.

Just wanted to chime in though and say that Colucci’s posts are quite excellent in this thread. So perhaps something useful can come of this thread for some of the beginner lifters reading this. Not the OP of course, he’s got all the answers. Why, his bench is at a massive 95 lbs. Clearly there is nothing you guys have to help him out.[/quote]

Don’t forget about his insane 12.5 inch biceps. Though truly I think he’s a troll, if he gained 20kg or so, that’s around 44 pounds. If he’s 150 pounds, he would of previously been 100 pounds. Can a 6 foot 2 boy (I was going to say man, but he really isn’t one yet) actually stay alive?

I also find that Colucci gives good advice, I wish I had someone like him giving me advice when I first started.

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Op are you related to Bull_Scientist at all?

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
We probably should’ve seen this coming. It’s not like the kid didn’t warn us.

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I missed this. So he started lifting weights in November, and within a couple months managed to get himself banned on BB? Damn.

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[quote]Reed wrote:
Op are you related to Bull_Scientist at all?[/quote]

Was wondering the same thing. A Bull_Scientist-Massthetics-buildsomemuscle (the 2week cut 1week bulk guy) round table discussion on training and diet theory would quite possibly be one of the more entertaining reads on the site though.

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I don’t understand how someone gets banned from bb.com. The people on that forum are all brain dead. I’ve seen kids start threads about how to jack off, and they didn’t get banned.

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[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
Instead of answering back every time your pride is injured, listen to the experienced people who are offering advice.[/quote]
nice bald spot.

also when did that ever happen.[/quote]

Exactly.

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At 6’ 2" and 205 pounds, I cant even imagine weighing around 110 pounds. This dude had to be TINY (still is by the sound of things)

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OP, ignore all the replies to your thread. Delete this thread from your memory. Also, forget that you have arms for the time being. Keep living the way you’re living (I’m assuming you’re doing stronglifts and eating your mother’s weight in beef). Come back to this thread in 2 years (many things will have changed by then, including your routine) and laugh at your ignorance when you were 16. I’m in a similar boat and will do the same.

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lol ok guys. I never weighed 100lb at 6’2… my lightest was 125-127. I am 155lb right now. I love how you somehow round off a 13kg gain to 20kg. Thanks to the people who were and still are giving advice, I have been taking all of it into account, contrary to popular belief.

My ban on bb.com has nothing to do with this, I don’t even remember what it was for it was that long ago. For the sports I do im a runner, and I do ice skating (hockey).

  • I have been lifting for almost 5 months, gained 13.5 kilos.
  • First 4 months was on a bro split. (bad idea, wasted a lot of time here. I now know better)
  • After first month arms stopped progressing
  • Experimented a lot with frequency, intenity, various training methods such as drop sets and super sets didn’t really help.
  • Started stronglifts about 3 weeks ago
  • Happy with stronglifts so far. however my arms still aren’t progressing.
  • Hence the creation of this thread, after 3 and a half months of experimenting with different types of training, eventually getting on a program, arms have remained stagnent. Don’t call me “impatient” lmfao.
  • Unexplained hate
  • OP is dissapointed in community
  • OP still learned a lot in thread and is confident in progressing in his bench
  • Deloading my bench at the moment (took 10 kilos off, is it enough?) will report back in a few weeks if my bench improves. Will also be eating more.