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How should one control breathing during runs, especially during the later phases of the run?

This thread had me reminiscing on high school track. I ran a (barely) sub 5-minute mile and right around a 52-second 400m (I was a bit better here). I looked up what kids are doing today and holy crap they are fast! I don’t have much to add; I’m just always impressed at how much athletes have improved

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Thank you.

Im a competitive sprinter with my club in the UK and I’m 215 lbs. I have no knee pain, never have, and know only one runner who competes who does have it.

Put me in your sample pool man, I was at the track literally today and the only pain I felt the whole time was the pressure from my spikes.

The injuries I see to knees are from particularly amateurish runners and women specifically — If you only know Sunday runners from the office pool this might be where you got the idea from?

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To generally clarify though; running is very safe and very good for you, but if you’re a bonehead about it you will hurt yourself. I’ve run for a good while, and the best runners I meet are almost always the ones injured the least.

If you strength train, warm-up, slowly increase intensity, stay hydrated, sleep enough, wear the right shoes, correctly modulate load, and stop when you feel something is off — then you’re good to go.

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I am far from an authority, but believe that sprinting is easy on your joints.

Knee joints are not the only joints attempting to cushion the jarring. Hips are also involved in the dampening efforts. I know quite a few people around my age who have had hip replacement surgery. I got 2 new hips in 2015.

I checked Google scholar just in case, but no, the meta-analyses all say that running at any distance at any level can’t be shown to cause long term joint issues.

If anything I would guess sprinting to be a more likely candidate as it’s so much harder on the body. You never sprint 200m a few times and feel good afterwards, always like you’re gonna die haha

Wasting your time. Runners are zealots and will die on their cross.

Come on now. It seems obvious that sprinting is systemically more demanding on the body. We were talking about risk of accumulative damage on the joints from jogging.

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Those who can, lift weights. Those who can’t lift weights, run. I suppose I am as much a zealot as the runners are.

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No zealotry detected here :smile:

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That is part of it. The other parts are to not lift your knees too high, don’t take long strides and don’t let your feet get too high off the ground. It should look more like a shuffle than sprinting. Go on youtube and look at some marathons.

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Thanks.

God that’s pathetic

Don’t take that advice. Your body is literally built to run, if you were really fragile enough to need to run like that your ancestors would’ve died out generations ago.

Watch Kipchoge run if you want to see what a good marathoner runs like, his stride length at 26 miles is still close to 2 meters

What are your best times?

And go look at Abebe Bikila running barefoot in the Rome Olympics. You couldn’t hear his steps as he ran.

At distance? I’ve never competed at long distances, only ever done them for a lark. My best 5k was 19:49 and half marathon was 1:42, both at over 200lbs

My mile is a flat 5, and below that I’m very fast, from the first time I set foot on a track I’ve literally never run worse than a 23 second 200m and this year I’m really intending to set some great times in contest this year. I’m no world champion but I run at a club level and have enough experience to say what is and isn’t stupid in this domain

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Don’t listen to the intermediate idiot because he is not taking your specific situation into account. I gave some tips based on what your goals are. I said to look at marathoners to see their form. The thing is, they are skinny and have been running a long time. They do more in one day than you would do in a few weeks. They are also, when running a marathon, running at a much faster pace than you. If you copy their form, but run at a slower pace, it will look more like the shuffle I described.

It literally won’t, kipchoge runs his marathon faster than you sprint. Google lmao

Distance runners have a mostly constant 180 spm cadence. Speed in distance is 100% about increasing stride length by maximizing power off the ground

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Our body is literally build to use what’s between our ears. Humans are among the slowest mammals in the world.