Hi my name is amr iam an egyptian student in my senior year ,
and iam a moslem , if u have a question about islam ask and i
will try to answer. but please there is no need to be rude or
to accuse me of being a terrorist and u know the usual stuff.
hope to be helpful , thnx alot
WTF
[quote]dk44 wrote:
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[quote]BluePfaltz wrote:
dk44 wrote:
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OP, if you want to be taken seriously, then maybe type properly?
guys what is your problem ?
i made this thread to anyone who has questions
about islam. if u hate moslems , islam and you
don’t give a shit about learning something new
please leave it to anyone who has a serious
question
The way you type seems a little weird to us. I will assume English is not your first language.
I would request that you do not assume we have a hate of Muslims, or of Islam, or assume you are a terrorist.
I believe you are attempting to help eliminate assumptions about you and your Religion, yet you are making assumptions about us.
Can you not see how what you are doing is no different then what you are assuming we are doing?
I do respect Islam, and Muslims. But I will not respect anyone who preaches hate.
I will reserve judgment about you until I know you better, and would request the same from you.
[quote]The Mage wrote:
I would request that you do not assume we have a hate of Muslims, or of Islam, or assume you are a terrorist. [/quote]
All well and good. But there are some people here who assume that just because WTP is from Lebanon (we know that he’s not a Muslim and we don’t even know about his ethnicity) he must be, by default, thinking Jews are apes, pigs or whatever other crap they’ve seen on Fox.
I am rarely offended by posts, but that one took the cake.
Somebody who’s just peeking at the board will get the impression that there is a substantial amount of hate directed towards Muslims and Islam.
iam sorry , i wasn’t trying to make assumptions
at all, thank you both mage and lixy. and mage
iam with you against anyone who preaches hate .
Oh yeah, and calling our soldiers “baby killers” is not offensive.
It’s not like Muslim car bombers have rat poisoned nails which do not penetrate the skin of children, after all.
And don’t drag the “there weren’t any terrorists in Iraq before the invasion” crap into this.
There are Muslim terrorists in over 50 countries.
Btw, this post was in reply to Lixy, not Dyskee.
Enough with the hate people.
My problem was that the posts this guy has made aren’t the most coherent.
thnx for replying gkhan , and yes there were terrorists in iraq before the invasion , and there are aot of terrorists in every place.
but what really makes me sad is that people always point out only muslim terrorists and claim that all muslims are terrorists.
ps: i know this wasn’t for me but i thought i’d reply
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Somebody who’s just peeking at the board will get the impression that there is a substantial amount of hate directed towards Muslims and Islam.[/quote]
Well, they do kind of hate us. So if there were sentiment, I think the feeling would be mutual.
[quote]dyskee wrote:
thnx for replying gkhan , and yes there were terrorists in iraq before the invasion , and there are aot of terrorists in every place.
but what really makes me sad is that people always point out only muslim terrorists and claim that all muslims are terrorists.
ps: i know this wasn’t for me but i thought i’d reply[/quote]
A disproportionately large amount of terrorism is done by Muslims. Many see this and connect terrorism to being a Muslim when they shouldn’t.
We should understand that there is a difference between Islam, and radical Islam. A complaint about radical Islam should not be taken as an attack on Islam. And to the opposite side, radical Islam should not be used as a reason to hate Islam.
You are correct that we shouldn’t be connecting terrorism to all of Islam. But it should make you even more against the Radicals as to how they are making your religion look to the rest of the world.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Somebody who’s just peeking at the board will get the impression that there is a substantial amount of hate directed towards Muslims and Islam.[/quote]
Or towards America.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
There are Muslim terrorists in over 50 countries.
Btw, this post was in reply to Lixy, not Dyskee.
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I was not saying only Muslims or all Muslims are terrorists.
I was replying to a steel-trap mindset which pre-dates this thread and Dyskee’s arrival here at T-Nation.
I do not hate all Muslims, only the radical terrorists who wish to destroy us and our way of life.
[quote]The Mage wrote:
A complaint about radical Islam should not be taken as an attack on Islam. [/quote]
You show me one instance where that occured.
Take a look at any of the threads by Pat, PRCalDude or the others and explain to me where they attack radical Islam. The thesis put forth by those is that everybody but them is clueless on the nature of Islam.
[quote]msd0060 wrote:
lixy wrote:
Somebody who’s just peeking at the board will get the impression that there is a substantial amount of hate directed towards Muslims and Islam.
Or towards America.[/quote]
No, sir!
The American ideals are put on a pedestal on this board. Everybody looks up to it and the overwhelming majority (I’ll venture 90%+) has nothing but admiration for the countries founders, principles and resourcefulness.
What gets criticized is the American aggressive foreign policy and the perceived erosion of civil rights domestically. Which is very different from what you asserted.
[quote]Guerrero wrote:
Well, they do kind of hate us. So if there were sentiment, I think the feeling would be mutual.[/quote]
What does it mean to hate u “the west” and what does “the west” represent to a Muslim?
If by the West you mean North American and Europe, a few generalities can be said about this.
This is not about being jealous of MTV or clubbing or 20" rims or drinking or dancing or music or tv shows. The conflict unfolding before our eyes is a “war of civilizations,” a conflict between the rule of God and the rule of man on Earth. This is bigger than democracy, we are witnessing the events that will lead to the emergence of the Anti-Christ and the return of Jesus (pbuh) on Earth.
Muslims do not hate the Christian nor Jewish identities of the West. Muslims are forbidden from killing or harming people for their religion especially the *People of the Book (shared revelation). In fact, the average Muslim wishes that the West would ACT like the Jewish and Christian Scriptures instruct them to act, but sadly Judaism and Christianity were infiltrated by Capitalism and Secularism Centuries ago. Not having any outlined political or economic structures to begin with, the two religions were quickly consumed by a mass of disbelieving ideologies such as “sovereignty is for the people, not for God” and “separation of Church and state”.
The idea that Muslims have negative sentiments towards Western Civilization can be traced no earlier than the beginning of the 20th Century. The Ottoman Empire, the last existing version of the Islamic State, broke into separate nation-states around 1924, weakened internally with nationalism and externally from the eastern Balkan sectors, north west from WWI infighting, and south-west (where nationalist Christian Arabs were migrating and “preaching nationalism”).
Arabs were taught to separate from themselves and their Muslim brothers because of European notions of nationality and other un-Islamic forms of congregation and bases of unity. Divided, each state was capped with an instated dictator or tribal king, who ruled by secularism, socialism, communism, monarchy, every type of rule but Islam. Today the fraud is called “ruling by legislative democracy”.
By 1948, Israel had been created in the Middle East, a perpetual source of conflict, pegged in the middle of the M.E. with the support of the British and American Zionists. A continous watch tower in the ME to insure that Muslims remained declawed and distracted from political Islam.
Since 1924, the year Muslims stopped ruling by God’s laws, Muslims have seen nothing but poverty, conflict, death, and humiliation. Each time they united under some banner other than Islam (such as nationalism, language, socialism) they failed miserably at the hands of every single “western state”.
Today, Muslims have made such a strong come back in numbers and ideology that I would compare it to the state of the community much earlier than when it had weakened in 1924. The pit of spiritual weakness would be traced to the 1950s, the height of nationalism, socialism, and western influence in tv and music.
Still politically suppressed, Muslims now recognize the long history of Western cooperation that led to the fall of the Islamic state and the source of every other failed ideological point of unity. They see plainly the West’s influence on Muslim youth in the west, and how ideas such as (capitalism, legislative democracy, nationalism, sexuality, pop-culture, materialism) are colonially exported to Muslim countries as an attempt to distract people from Islam, both ideologically and politically. In addition, they recognize the damage that Capitalism and Secularism have done to the People of the Book, to people who believe in God in general, the very Christians and Jews who helped instate these false ideologies had lost control and were now being suppressed from preaching about God by legions of “politically correct” atheists, humanists, and homosexuals.
Today, any Muslim who hates “the west” would hate if for these reasons, because “it” continues to propagate false doctrines and ideologies, distracting and suppressing Muslims from the only purpose of life, to live and rule by Islam.
Muslims plainly see that the Iraq war, and all other wars on Islam are wars of civilizations, an attack on Islam, the last bastion of Godliness, the only religion on the planet with a complete political and economic system. A campaign against “terror” has been created by Capitalists and Secularists and other disbelievers as well as some spiteful Peoples of the Book, to once again rally oblivious Jews and Christians and agnostics against Muslims.
The “war on terror” is designed to make every single person either detest Islam with all his heart or recognize it as Truth and become Muslim. Eventually, each non-Muslim country will find a justification to push into Muslim land. From the West, from Israel, from the North East, and from the seas.
The effect, of course, will be to congregate the Muslims until they are back to back, and left with nothing but knowledge of God’s plan, and God’s Will.
Before Jesus (pbuh) returns to unite Muslims with other believers, the anti-Christ will appear. And you can bet that the anti-Christ will lead the forces of the world against Islam with all his might. He will fail.
ps: no offence was intended i was just answering guerrero
So what’s the consensus on other religions? Buddhism? Hinduism?
Atheists?
I’m a Hindu BTW.