Abortion, legal issues

whatever James. she’s better off with dre.

James,you were correct when you stated that no forms of contraception are 100% fool-proof. If you understand that you should also understand that if you can’t afford to have a kid you shouldn’t be having sex.

**NO abortion is legal if the child could live on it’s own, and medicine is getting much better about keeping premies alive so that cut off date is slowly creeping back. **

That would make morality a function of technology, which seems wrong. Hypothetically, if James went and destroyed enough of modern technology, so that doctors could no longer keep babies alive at seven months of age, it would follow that it would be legal to have an abortion up until the seveth month. Hell, what if he could destroy every baby bottle, stop women from lactating, and end every means possible from feading a baby up until children grew teeth, then he could hack off his kid’s head after it was born without feeling guilty or being legally responsible.

WTF??? Since when did you become interested in health and fitness? You still wearing makeup and perfume to the gym or have you move back to the old street corner to find your men? Look, if she would have wanted Dre she would be with him, but shes not. So, for all your deception you still lost a friend. Not because of me, but because of your own selfishness.

The actions of you two low lifes speak louder than any words I could put on the screen. And if the Town Whore used to be pumpin’ Dre, it just reinforces my statement. Old Pop Em and Leave Em Dre. As for your comments on Lei, would gives you the right to make those statements little man? Best go get your lobotomy before somebody takes offense and nails your sorry ass to the wall.

You can’t legislate morality. Yes, the law is certainly a function of technology. Morality is not.


Also, let me reiterate that I don’t see how this could possibly be the first doctor’s fault. The math doesn’t work. If the first doctor had not performed an abortion, the baby would be just about ready to be born by now.

Neal - no, my statement has nothing to do with morality. I do not judge abortion laws based on my morals, because mine are not yours. If a baby could live outside the womb it should not be aborted. When it is still 100% dependent on its mother for life (i.e. the first 6 months) she has a right - as does the father - to abort the child. Abortion is way to complecated to make it black or white. After 6 months or so, the child is capable of living, true, it will have severe health problems, but it can live. And at that point, the pregnancy should not be terminated, nor should labor be induced. The last month of pregnancy is when the baby puts on most of its size and it needs to be ‘in the oven’ for as long as possible at that point.

Because, I know the stupid trick. Thats how I can talk about Lei like that! If this is one of her “homies” trying to be a badass, well just come and see me. If you’re so tough, you big man you. Ask her, she’ll tell you where I live. Then you and me can sit and have a little talk. Unless, all you do is talk shit behind a keyboard.

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Take it easy there boy. Hey look. Somebody has to go out with the state slut and it just happens to be you this time. And, someone has to go out with the village idiot and it just happens to be the state slut’s turn to do it. I have asked lei to inform Dre’s throwaway as to your whining on here about your pathetic relationship in hopes of maybe being the catalyst to get you out of this relationship before she does you permanent damage. You will thank me for this in the future Jimmy.

I would like to point out that someone has, once again, purloined the use of my moniker. The post entitled “Avoids Roids to Jimmy Boy” was not written by me but a Roids wannabe. Guys, I can get in enough trouble by myself without your help. My only comment remains that it was not very smart for James to have uncontracepted sex with his girlfriend shortly after she had an abortion. The rhetoric about the effectiveness of certain birth control methods does not justify not using birth control if you don’t want to be parents. As for the abortion issue, if it is legal, they have the right to do it. The moral issue will have to be decided by someone smarter than me. Avoids Roids

Mr. Roids, I see that you have an imposter that is using your, er, good…no, that’s not right, well, your name anyway, for ill purposes. For a modest fee, I could track down said imposter and make them disappear. You interested? :slight_smile:

Mr. Dick. You almost addressed me correctly. Everyone, including Mrs. Roids and all the little Roids call me Mr. Roids Sir. Despite your lack of using the correct protocol, I would, however, like to engage you to catch the Roids imposter. But make sure he suffers before he disappears. Roids out.

Yo Demo. No 5’2" weasel is going to make me disappear you little runt. I’ll have you for lunch and that old stooge Avoids Roids for dinner. And James, you might consider asking the TW who got her pregnant, you dumb juicer. She been seeing Dre on the side moron and you don’t even know it. Wake up Jimmy boy. You been had by a professional. Get out while you can juice boy.

Take care of this annoyance will you Demo? I’m tied up practicing for the wheelchair olympics.

Sorry, Mr. Roids, Sir (you’re pushing it with this whole formality thing :)). While you were practicing for the wheelchair olympics I was looking for my booster seat so that I could see the monitor.

“No 5'2" weasel is going to make me disappear you little runt. I'll have you for lunch and that old stooge Avoids Roids for dinner.”

In the immortal words of Mr. Dean Martin…bring friends. And I’m not 5’2”. I’m 5’3”. Not that it make a difference when you’re looking up from the ground. Tulip. :P

Ya know Lei, this is getting real old. If you’ve got a problem or just wanna chat, call me. Better yet come and see me. Actually, I’m assuming all this hurt, resentment, ill mannered feelings(whatever you wanna call it) stems from when I decided I didn’t want to have a threesome with you. Whatever your reasons, if you have something else to say, say it to me. This is the last time I will check this thread so don’t bother replying.

As a member in semi-good standing of the Sick Bastards Club, I hereby nominate this thread as the most screwed up, who the hell are you, what-the hell you-talkin’-bout-Willis-thread that I have ever seen. Maybe there was some sort of Internet hiccup and the T-Mag server got criss-crossed with the Jerry Springer bulletin board?

Michelle, first you need to read the New Testament for the 1st time since you “claim” you are a “christian”. Your posts are sadly lacking in any support in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I have noticed this since your old “debate” with Laura a few months back. (if you are the same “michelle” that is)

Your “capable of living outside the mother” thing, another poor pro-abortion argument. When does this happen? If you leave a 6 month old (after birth) baby alone without the assistance of a mother, how long will the baby live in the empty house? A few days? So this “capable if living outside the mother on its own” is meaningless, so quit using it! Give me an age. 2 years old maybe? When the tot can figure out a can opener to find food to live? or what? tell me.

spiekerjes - There is one ‘Michelle’ on this forum, and you’re talking to her.

Read the New Testament? I have, repeatedly. The 'you're not a good enough Christian for me' arguement is old and tired. I don't agree with you so I'm a bad Christian, it's good you are making yourself feel better. You surly are holier than I.

Did you notice that I never asked anyone on this thread what religion they are? Wanna know why? I DON'T CARE WHAT RELIGION THEY ARE! This thread has nothing to do with the 'morality' of James' problem.

You can take my thoughts out of context if you choose, it just makes you look stupid. After a certian age, a baby can live outside the womb, before that age it will not no matter what medical science does for it. There is a HUGE difference between a child's ability to live and not haveing a caretaker to feed it. A baby can no longer be aborted after the point that it can survive outside the mother's body, end of story. Having a caretaker to provide for the child is a DIFFERENT ARGUEMENT.

I am not hijacking this thread with yet another religious debate. If you want to fight with me, start another thread, and as usual I will respond (though not for a week because I won't be on line) but please have more than 'my pastor told me so' and 'because that's what my KJV bible says' as arguements because those arguements are old and tired and really just prove that you can't think for yourself.