[quote]Professor X wrote:
jawara wrote:
AssOnGrass wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
jawara wrote:
The Civil Rights Act has nothing to do with the social ills of the black community.
Maybe not directly…but you seem to disregard the affects of discrimination/segregation/racism on the black community before the act was invoked. To not see this is strange…but it really wasn’t my point. See next comment.
Civil rights is about civil rights not about guys who see no problem with running around getting women pregnant.
So how are “liberal” policies and programs related to the empowering guys who see no problem with getting women pregnant? You’re basically saying that "liberal policies and programs are telling black males to have unprotected sex and father children out of wedlock?
I’m confused…maybe you can expand on what you’re saying. Help a brother out.
I think he’s saying that liberal programs and policies set the lower socio-economic classes up for failure rather than actually help them.
Unprotected sex is a symptom of the real disease… lack of education and ignorance which can be argued is harbored by liberal policies.
People want to point fingers at conservatism as it doesn’t promote the helping of the less fortunate. When in reality if the less fortunate just adopted many of the attitudes of the “old school” there would be less poverty and other social ills.
Nothing of value is ever gifted to people on a societal level. If people would wake up and see that the greatness of this country was built upon people standing up to the oppressive and taking what is rightfully theirs. The founding fathers did this to the English.
Women did this to men in regards to voting and equal rights. Black Americans did this to the American majority through the civil rights movement. None of these rights were gifted to people, they were rightfully taken for themselves.
This welfare state does not promote equal opportunity in this way. It actually subsidizes mediocrity of whole classes of people and retards the growth of wealth.
Well that’s my take anyways.
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Are either of you aware of how thoroughly fucked blacks were before that time period? Racism wasn’t some light issue in this country when many of these programs were started and it was NOT simply a matter of working harder to succeed.[/quote]
Yeah but the community rallied together and fought for their rights from a group of people who were shitting on “all men were created equal”.
I acknowledge they were fucked royally but if you look around there is now opportunity for blacks that weren’t once there. Is it equal? Absolutely not but the premise that government programs closes the gap is laughable. What will close the gap is an attitude change in everyone (black, white, hispanic, asian, etc…) and you can not do that with programs and policies. The only thing the government can fix are broken laws that intentionally set races up for failure.
My point is that people need to grab what is theirs rightfully and not trust others to gift it to them because IT WON’T HAPPEN. I’m not talking on an individual level mind you, but as a long term and broad-based solution.