Abortion Kills Mostly Blacks

On another note, lets say I was a racist and I wanted to kill black people.
I would keep them poor, uneducated,malnourished,give them drugs, and do whatever I could to kill themselves.

Inner city schools suck. We keep throwing money at them yet it never seems to work. I say home schooling would be better. If I were a welfare mom thats what I’d do.

Even if the drugs were pumped into the the ghetto by “the man” it doesn mean that you have to use them. I’d sell them if I had to and use the money to put one of my family members through school. Havent alot of immigrants done that?

Being sexually active can kill you. AIDS is an STD. If more black people practised chastity (a conservitive value) the spread would stop. Instead a “entitlement” mentality … do a google of the words “stop AIDS” I don’t see anything about chastity. Couple this with high abortion, and crime and I see the death of a race of people. And you think liberals are your freinds??? They want to increase abortion. They tell you that it’s ok to sleep around with lots of women, they tell the black woman they don’t need a man to raise a kid the government will provide, they pass out condoms and yet black women are getting AIDS faster than anyone else. The solution to these problems are not liberal based. I know I’m going to sound like a freak when I say this but the Bible can save us… Keyword BIBLE like Biblebelt like conservitive.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jawara wrote:
AssOnGrass wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
jawara wrote:

The Civil Rights Act has nothing to do with the social ills of the black community.

Maybe not directly…but you seem to disregard the affects of discrimination/segregation/racism on the black community before the act was invoked. To not see this is strange…but it really wasn’t my point. See next comment.

Civil rights is about civil rights not about guys who see no problem with running around getting women pregnant.

So how are “liberal” policies and programs related to the empowering guys who see no problem with getting women pregnant? You’re basically saying that "liberal policies and programs are telling black males to have unprotected sex and father children out of wedlock?

I’m confused…maybe you can expand on what you’re saying. Help a brother out.

I think he’s saying that liberal programs and policies set the lower socio-economic classes up for failure rather than actually help them.

Unprotected sex is a symptom of the real disease… lack of education and ignorance which can be argued is harbored by liberal policies.

People want to point fingers at conservatism as it doesn’t promote the helping of the less fortunate. When in reality if the less fortunate just adopted many of the attitudes of the “old school” there would be less poverty and other social ills.

Nothing of value is ever gifted to people on a societal level. If people would wake up and see that the greatness of this country was built upon people standing up to the oppressive and taking what is rightfully theirs. The founding fathers did this to the English.

Women did this to men in regards to voting and equal rights. Black Americans did this to the American majority through the civil rights movement. None of these rights were gifted to people, they were rightfully taken for themselves.

This welfare state does not promote equal opportunity in this way. It actually subsidizes mediocrity of whole classes of people and retards the growth of wealth.

Well that’s my take anyways.

THANK YOU!!!

Are either of you aware of how thoroughly fucked blacks were before that time period? Racism wasn’t some light issue in this country when many of these programs were started and it was NOT simply a matter of working harder to succeed.[/quote]

Yeah but the community rallied together and fought for their rights from a group of people who were shitting on “all men were created equal”.

I acknowledge they were fucked royally but if you look around there is now opportunity for blacks that weren’t once there. Is it equal? Absolutely not but the premise that government programs closes the gap is laughable. What will close the gap is an attitude change in everyone (black, white, hispanic, asian, etc…) and you can not do that with programs and policies. The only thing the government can fix are broken laws that intentionally set races up for failure.

My point is that people need to grab what is theirs rightfully and not trust others to gift it to them because IT WON’T HAPPEN. I’m not talking on an individual level mind you, but as a long term and broad-based solution.

[quote]AssOnGrass wrote:

I acknowledge they were fucked royally but if you look around there is now opportunity for blacks that weren’t once there.[/quote]

Which is in large part because of many of these programs that some of you claim were of no help at all. Affirmative Action WAS needed when it was started. Anyone denying that is living on some other planet or has their head up their ass because this country was not going to politely start treating blacks as human beings without being forced.

The only real debate is whether some of these programs are needed right now.

[quote]jawara wrote:
On another note, lets say I was a racist and I wanted to kill black people.
I would keep them poor, uneducated,malnourished,give them drugs, and do whatever I could to kill themselves.

Inner city schools suck. We keep throwing money at them yet it never seems to work. I say home schooling would be better. If I were a welfare mom thats what I’d do.

Even if the drugs were pumped into the the ghetto by “the man” it doesn mean that you have to use them. I’d sell them if I had to and use the money to put one of my family members through school. Havent alot of immigrants done that?

Being sexually active can kill you. AIDS is an STD. If more black people practised chastity (a conservitive value) the spread would stop. Instead a “entitlement” mentality … do a google of the words “stop AIDS” I don’t see anything about chastity. Couple this with high abortion, and crime and I see the death of a race of people. And you think liberals are your freinds??? They want to increase abortion. They tell you that it’s ok to sleep around with lots of women, they tell the black woman they don’t need a man to raise a kid the government will provide, they pass out condoms and yet black women are getting AIDS faster than anyone else. The solution to these problems are not liberal based. I know I’m going to sound like a freak when I say this but the Bible can save us… Keyword BIBLE like Biblebelt like conservitive.
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Because you think people who vote Democrat don’t believe in God?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Be a white person and walk through Baptist Town in Greenwood MS. I can bet you it’s worse than a black man walking into the whitest and richest country club in America.

Really?

Did you know that we, until recently (as in the late 80’s and 90’s) weren’t accepted in many Country Clubs or were made to feel so uncomfortable that we would simply leave?

Did you know that as recently as a couple months ago I wasn’t accepted on an entire side of the town I lived in, including clubs bars and restaurants under threat of violence.

You are saying white people aren’t accepted on the side of town you live in? You get threatened to with violence by an entire side of town that you live in? Where the fuck do you live?[/quote]

No, I didn’t live on that side, I wouldn’t have been aloud to. But I’m talking about even driving down the streets.

Have you ever had a group of white kids run out in the street, stop your car, and tell you to turn around or they were going to fuck you up, because I’ve had that happen to me in reverse. I’m not talking statistics, about some group 20 years ago is some other place. I’m talking about what has happened to me THIS YEAR. Does that somehow not count because I?m not a ?minority? (though in that area I was)?

If you haven’t lived there you can’t truly understand, but for you to write me off as always having it easy and having everything in my favor because I?m white is a joke and I?ve lost some respect for you because of it.

I?ve said all this before, but my dad got turned down for his first job because the company got a tax break hiring a less qualified minority. The town I lived in actually turned down white entrepreneurs wanting to build stores because they weren?t a minorities. Hell, even the college I went to had much lower standards for African Americans and women to somehow offset prejudice.

You talk about getting labeled for the race you were born to instead of the life you’ve lived, and you turn around and try to perpetuate it on others. Shameful.

[quote]jawara wrote:
On another note, lets say I was a racist and I wanted to kill black people.
I would keep them poor, uneducated,malnourished,give them drugs, and do whatever I could to kill themselves.

Inner city schools suck. We keep throwing money at them yet it never seems to work. I say home schooling would be better. If I were a welfare mom thats what I’d do.

Even if the drugs were pumped into the the ghetto by “the man” it doesn mean that you have to use them. I’d sell them if I had to and use the money to put one of my family members through school. Havent alot of immigrants done that?

Being sexually active can kill you. AIDS is an STD. If more black people practised chastity (a conservitive value) the spread would stop. Instead a “entitlement” mentality … do a google of the words “stop AIDS” I don’t see anything about chastity. Couple this with high abortion, and crime and I see the death of a race of people. And you think liberals are your freinds??? They want to increase abortion. They tell you that it’s ok to sleep around with lots of women, they tell the black woman they don’t need a man to raise a kid the government will provide, they pass out condoms and yet black women are getting AIDS faster than anyone else. The solution to these problems are not liberal based. I know I’m going to sound like a freak when I say this but the Bible can save us… Keyword BIBLE like Biblebelt like conservative.
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So can I assume that you’re out there preaching and speaking to youth groups…helping your communities,etc? And if so,is that only reserved for Bible Belt conservatives?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Be a white person and walk through Baptist Town in Greenwood MS. I can bet you it’s worse than a black man walking into the whitest and richest country club in America.

Really?

Did you know that we, until recently (as in the late 80’s and 90’s) weren’t accepted in many Country Clubs or were made to feel so uncomfortable that we would simply leave?

Did you know that as recently as a couple months ago I wasn’t accepted on an entire side of the town I lived in, including clubs bars and restaurants under threat of violence.

You are saying white people aren’t accepted on the side of town you live in? You get threatened to with violence by an entire side of town that you live in? Where the fuck do you live?

No, I didn’t live on that side, I wouldn’t have been aloud to. But I’m talking about even driving down the streets.

Have you ever had a group of white kids run out in the street, stop your car, and tell you to turn around or they were going to fuck you up, because I’ve had that happen to me in reverse. I’m not talking statistics, about some group 20 years ago is some other place. I’m talking about what has happened to me THIS YEAR. Does that somehow not count because I?m not a ?minority? (though in that area I was)?

If you haven’t lived there you can’t truly understand, but for you to write me off as always having it easy and having everything in my favor because I?m white is a joke and I?ve lost some respect for you because of it.

I?ve said all this before, but my dad got turned down for his first job because the company got a tax break hiring a less qualified minority. The town I lived in actually turned down white entrepreneurs wanting to build stores because they weren?t a minorities. Hell, even the college I went to had much lower standards for African Americans and women to somehow offset prejudice.

You talk about getting labeled for the race you were born to instead of the life you’ve lived, and you turn around and try to perpetuate it on others. Shameful.
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I couldn’t care less about you losing respect for me. Any time I mention anything that happens to me in a negative sense based on race, I get hit with several posts about how it is all in my head.

So…how does that feel?

You imagined it all.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
AssOnGrass wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:

The question still remains: How do “liberal” programs and policies dictate human choice in issues related to abortion?? And why do liberals take the entire blame in the first place?

It doesn’t dictate human choice at all but predisposes people to the problems. There is an enormous difference. I never said that one CAUSED the other but in my opinion the policies and programs are broken and don’t do anything close to what their intentions are.

Ultimately it’s not liberals or conservatives who should be to blame but the individuals themselves. That’s the whole point I’m trying to make.

But that isn’t the point you made and it isn’t the point others are making. they are trying to blame “liberals” for why the black family unit isn’t whole while ignoring all of those GIGANTIC SOCIAL ISSUES that led to the creation of many of those programs to start with. The initial problem was NOT that blacks weren’t working hard enough to succeed. The initial problem was that all of society at the time was geared against the success of blacks in general. For every individual who made it to a higher social status, many were kept behind no matter how hard they worked.

This is not something that was instigated by Welfare and Welfare is not to blame for why poor kids don’t think about safe sex or don’t have complete family units.

Why scapegoat these issues while ignoring the huge one that is at the base of it all?[/quote]

What’s the huge one in your opinion? Racism?

I’m not being facetious, just want to know what your opinion is.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Be a white person and walk through Baptist Town in Greenwood MS. I can bet you it’s worse than a black man walking into the whitest and richest country club in America.

Really?

Did you know that we, until recently (as in the late 80’s and 90’s) weren’t accepted in many Country Clubs or were made to feel so uncomfortable that we would simply leave?

Did you know that as recently as a couple months ago I wasn’t accepted on an entire side of the town I lived in, including clubs bars and restaurants under threat of violence.

You are saying white people aren’t accepted on the side of town you live in? You get threatened to with violence by an entire side of town that you live in? Where the fuck do you live?

No, I didn’t live on that side, I wouldn’t have been aloud to. But I’m talking about even driving down the streets.

Have you ever had a group of white kids run out in the street, stop your car, and tell you to turn around or they were going to fuck you up, because I’ve had that happen to me in reverse. I’m not talking statistics, about some group 20 years ago is some other place. I’m talking about what has happened to me THIS YEAR. Does that somehow not count because I?m not a ?minority? (though in that area I was)?

If you haven’t lived there you can’t truly understand, but for you to write me off as always having it easy and having everything in my favor because I?m white is a joke and I?ve lost some respect for you because of it.

I?ve said all this before, but my dad got turned down for his first job because the company got a tax break hiring a less qualified minority. The town I lived in actually turned down white entrepreneurs wanting to build stores because they weren?t a minorities. Hell, even the college I went to had much lower standards for African Americans and women to somehow offset prejudice.

You talk about getting labeled for the race you were born to instead of the life you’ve lived, and you turn around and try to perpetuate it on others. Shameful.

I couldn’t care less about you losing respect for me. Any time I mention anything that happens to me in a negative sense based on race, I get hit with several posts about how it is all in my head.

So…how does that feel?

You imagined it all.[/quote]

Now you are as bad as the people that did it to you.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Now you are as bad as the people that did it to you.[/quote]

No, I managed to piss you off exactly like they do me. Again, how does that fucking feel?

[quote]AssOnGrass wrote:

What’s the huge one in your opinion? Racism?

I’m not being facetious, just want to know what your opinion is.[/quote]

LOL!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Now you are as bad as the people that did it to you.

No, I managed to piss you off exactly like they do me. Again, how does that fucking feel?[/quote]

No, I’m not mad, a little sad for you really. You think you are somehow unique or more noble in your pursuit of equality, but it just turns out you are no different than the people you rally against. You only complain because your axis isn’t in power to demean the people you hate.

It’s a sad sad world.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Now you are as bad as the people that did it to you.

No, I managed to piss you off exactly like they do me. Again, how does that fucking feel?

No, I’m not mad, a little sad for you really. You think you are somehow unique or more noble in your pursuit of equality, but it just turns out you are no different than the people you rally against. You only complain because your axis isn’t in power to demean the people you hate.

It’s a sad sad world.[/quote]

You’re slow today. I don’t know if what you wrote is true or not but I am not applauding someone degrading you based on skin color. This had to be written out for some strange reason.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
jawara wrote:
AssOnGrass wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
jawara wrote:

Thanks…you fail. You generalize too much…[/quote]

Did it on purpose, because it is a general problem, not just pertaining to one subject.

I can sum up most of the problems we see to three words:

“accountability and responsibility”

but that is probably to general.

It really is that simple.

If everyone in the world would be accountable for their actions and take responsibility for the consequences of their actions it would go along way to help us solve many of our problems.

Sorry that is just how i feel.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
jawara wrote:
On another note, lets say I was a racist and I wanted to kill black people.
I would keep them poor, uneducated,malnourished,give them drugs, and do whatever I could to kill themselves.

Inner city schools suck. We keep throwing money at them yet it never seems to work. I say home schooling would be better. If I were a welfare mom thats what I’d do.

Even if the drugs were pumped into the the ghetto by “the man” it doesn mean that you have to use them. I’d sell them if I had to and use the money to put one of my family members through school. Havent alot of immigrants done that?

Being sexually active can kill you. AIDS is an STD. If more black people practised chastity (a conservitive value) the spread would stop. Instead a “entitlement” mentality … do a google of the words “stop AIDS” I don’t see anything about chastity. Couple this with high abortion, and crime and I see the death of a race of people. And you think liberals are your freinds??? They want to increase abortion. They tell you that it’s ok to sleep around with lots of women, they tell the black woman they don’t need a man to raise a kid the government will provide, they pass out condoms and yet black women are getting AIDS faster than anyone else. The solution to these problems are not liberal based. I know I’m going to sound like a freak when I say this but the Bible can save us… Keyword BIBLE like Biblebelt like conservative.

So can I assume that you’re out there preaching and speaking to youth groups…helping your communities,etc? And if so,is that only reserved for Bible Belt conservatives?[/quote]

Now your just being silly. I preach to no one, I just do my best to make sure that I can break the cycle of unwanted pregnancy,poverty, crime, drug use, and the entitlement mentallity that is destroying the black community.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jawara wrote:
On another note, lets say I was a racist and I wanted to kill black people.
I would keep them poor, uneducated,malnourished,give them drugs, and do whatever I could to kill themselves.

Inner city schools suck. We keep throwing money at them yet it never seems to work. I say home schooling would be better. If I were a welfare mom thats what I’d do.

Even if the drugs were pumped into the the ghetto by “the man” it doesn mean that you have to use them. I’d sell them if I had to and use the money to put one of my family members through school. Havent alot of immigrants done that?

Being sexually active can kill you. AIDS is an STD. If more black people practised chastity (a conservitive value) the spread would stop. Instead a “entitlement” mentality … do a google of the words “stop AIDS” I don’t see anything about chastity. Couple this with high abortion, and crime and I see the death of a race of people. And you think liberals are your freinds??? They want to increase abortion. They tell you that it’s ok to sleep around with lots of women, they tell the black woman they don’t need a man to raise a kid the government will provide, they pass out condoms and yet black women are getting AIDS faster than anyone else. The solution to these problems are not liberal based. I know I’m going to sound like a freak when I say this but the Bible can save us… Keyword BIBLE like Biblebelt like conservitive.

Because you think people who vote Democrat don’t believe in God?[/quote]

Not all of them but alot of them.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Now you are as bad as the people that did it to you.

No, I managed to piss you off exactly like they do me. Again, how does that fucking feel?

No, I’m not mad, a little sad for you really. You think you are somehow unique or more noble in your pursuit of equality, but it just turns out you are no different than the people you rally against. You only complain because your axis isn’t in power to demean the people you hate.

It’s a sad sad world.

You’re slow today. I don’t know if what you wrote is true or not but I am not applauding someone degrading you based on skin color. This had to be written out for some strange reason.
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Sadly it really is true believe it or not. Go visit Baptist Town some time and you’ll get a better idea, it’s worth the experience.

You were however trying to get me upset, the way others did you and arguing for laws that lost my dad a job because he had the wrong skin color.

[quote]jawara wrote:
So can I assume that you’re out there preaching and speaking to youth groups…helping your communities,etc? And if so,is that only reserved for Bible Belt conservatives?

Now your just being silly. I preach to no one, I just do my best to make sure that I can break the cycle of unwanted pregnancy,poverty, crime, drug use, and the entitlement mentality that is destroying the black community.
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How is that silly? Its a very valid question. You’re giving us the persona of being so concerned for “your people.” I’m just curious as to what you’re doing to help “your people.” What makes you the “exception?”

[quote]Professor X wrote:
AssOnGrass wrote:

I acknowledge they were fucked royally but if you look around there is now opportunity for blacks that weren’t once there.

Which is in large part because of many of these programs that some of you claim were of no help at all. Affirmative Action WAS needed when it was started. Anyone denying that is living on some other planet or has their head up their ass because this country was not going to politely start treating blacks as human beings without being forced.

The only real debate is whether some of these programs are needed right now.
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My opinion is that the court’s rulings in many civil suits deterred people from denying employment based on race. Then came the changes in attitude.

My points are this:

Ignorance has no racial bounds it is not universal in direction or application.

You CANNOT legislate a change of heart. Forcing minorities into jobs is no better than turning one down based on ignorance. It only serves to build resentment and hatred.

There is no vast anything-wing conspiracy to keep anyone else down.

No one owes anyone else anything based on birth.

No issue or problem can be parted strictly down racial lines, any attempt to do so ignores human nature and free will itself.