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[quote]McMurphy wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Rock, you’re a bad man =P

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]sdjohn67 wrote:
Interesting read but this woman had her body image problems long before ever stepping into a crossfit gym (gymnastics coaches are the worst about their athletes weight).

For what it’s worth at this years Crossfit games the top three females had the below height and weight.

  1. 5’5" @ 147#
  2. 5’2" @ 133#
  3. 5’9" @ 150#

The last several years worth of winners of the Games have gone (mostly) away from the mainpage style WOD’s and to more strength based workouts.

Mikko Salo for instance learned how to do several Xfit style moves hours before he won the games.

Glassman(helped by the Gin)/Budding/Castro have turned Xfit into a joke.

And to address the other point above… Crossift changed from Paleo diet based to Zone after they kicked Robb Wolf to the curb.[/quote]

This is spot on. The Metcons are great for conditioning, but the top dogs(ie Salo, Khalipa, Orlando, Holmberg) do their own programming which is much more strength/Oly lifting based.

I can’t hate on Xfit b/c it has given me an alternative to just running/jumping rope for conditioning. I do metcons after 5/3/1 and now look and feel better than ever. [/quote]

qft

I will agree that the met con wod’s are a great conditioning tool…but funny how the guys who win their own “olympics” are also the “strongest” guys there.

This stuff is nothing new…

I learned from reading and talking with Louie Simmons years and years ago(and he probably learned it from somebody else) this simple fact:

NO OTHER ASPECT OF STRENGTH WILL INCREASE WITHOUT FIRST INCREASING ABSOLUTE MAXIMAL (1 RM) STRENGTH.

the reason Donny Shankle can blow away most crossfitters best “Grace” time is not that he practices it, but that because his max clean and jerk is probably well over 200kg.

thiing is, these xfit guys will laugh at a guy like Shankle being miserably tired after one of their workouts…from the linked video earlier, I heard somebody in the background say “so how do you like crossfit?”, BUT, lets see a typical crossfitter try to clean and jerk 200kg. when they get stapled, ask them “how do you like OLing?”

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[quote]McMurphy wrote:
This is spot on. The Metcons are great for conditioning, but the top dogs(ie Salo, Khalipa, Orlando, Holmberg) do their own programming which is much more strength/Oly lifting based.
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From looking at some of the stats of these guys from the CF Games website, most of them have decent to good clean and snatch numbers. The average is about a 300lb clean and a 230 snatch. Even if they don’t have they don’t have proportional strength in the squat and deadlift, which some do, they will still have good oly numbers. Some of these guys are like 165lbs and doing that.

I don’t know if this is solely due to actually training the lifts, which few non-crossfit or olympic lifters do, or in part due to the level of athleticism of some of these guys that they are actually able to get there which is no easy task.

I think an approximately 450lb squat, 550 dl, 300 clean, 230 snatch for a 170-190 guy, is where most games bound athletes need to be if they are going to compete, with a higher weight placed on the oly lifts. After that, just maintain those numbers and do conditioning until you are a metabolic freak.

Sadly, I have seen no one size fits all “WOD” programming from either an affiliate or the mainsite, that is capable of producing that caliber of athlete.

I also don’t think its that monumental of a task, and that crossfit would be awesome if you could walk into any crossfit gym and come across 3-4 guys capable of performing like that. Sadly, you don’t.

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[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
Damn good read, and having been exposed to the Xfit phenomena personally, I have to agree. While it is not the most evil thing out there, it is laughable to me. [/quote]

ya, you look (from your avatar) like a BIG dude. I imagine you killed them in the deads, overead presses, squats and cleans for maxes, but got tooled by little skinny guys who you outweighed by 50-70lbs, in the pull ups, running, hand stand presses, muscle ups, etc.

my wife had the same problem at crossfit. as far as the Lifting was concerned, she blew away all the women and most of the men, but when it came to running, and dips and chin ups, she got jobbed, as being a curvy latina, she was carrying around 20-40lbs more of hips and booty than most of of those emaciated chicks that trained there.

for example, she push pressed 135 x 3 one time, when most of the chicks there went out at 95-105lbs, and deadlifted 255 x 3 raw with a hook grip when most of the chicks went out at under 185lbs.

but in chin ups, she could do 3-4, while those skinny bitches could bust out 15-20.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
Damn good read, and having been exposed to the Xfit phenomena personally, I have to agree. While it is not the most evil thing out there, it is laughable to me. [/quote]

ya, you look (from your avatar) like a BIG dude. I imagine you killed them in the deads, overead presses, squats and cleans for maxes, but got tooled by little skinny guys who you outweighed by 50-70lbs, in the pull ups, running, hand stand presses, muscle ups, etc.

my wife had the same problem at crossfit. as far as the Lifting was concerned, she blew away all the women and most of the men, but when it came to running, and dips and chin ups, she got jobbed, as being a curvy latina, she was carrying around 20-40lbs more of hips and booty than most of of those emaciated chicks that trained there.

for example, she push pressed 135 x 3 one time, when most of the chicks there went out at 95-105lbs, and deadlifted 255 x 3 raw with a hook grip when most of the chicks went out at under 185lbs.

but in chin ups, she could do 3-4, while those skinny bitches could bust out 15-20. [/quote]

Judging by your description of her physique…I think it would be hot as hell watching her kip :wink:

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Holy shitarooski bob, Edgy, you just sent this thread on the highway to hell. I’m gittin outta here.
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but…but…I worship that glorious ass of our DebraD.

what to do now?

what to do?

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I have decided that Crossfit isn’t so bad.

The WODs are only a suggestion and can be modified to fit ones abilities.

Most of the advanced members not only do the metcon session but do their own programs before or after that session. I see lots of strength training and gymnastics work being done in addition to the metcon workouts.

The best part about it is the fact that it is done in such a social setting. It’s really hard to cheat oneself when there are loads of hot chicks watching “the performance”.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I have decided that Crossfit isn’t so bad.

The WODs are only a suggestion and can be modified to fit ones abilities.

Most of the advanced members not only do the metcon session but do their own programs before or after that session. I see lots of strength training and gymnastics work being done in addition to the metcon workouts.

The best part about it is the fact that it is done in such a social setting. It’s really hard to cheat oneself when there are loads of hot chicks watching “the performance”.[/quote]

Agree…I do my 5/3/1 at a Crossfit gym…mostly for the eye candy.

Lots of the “crossfitters” do a strength workout and then a metcon like the rest of the world.

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The backlash on the crossfit forum regarding this topic varies quite a bit. I mean, there are some folks calling for her to be burned at the stake, other members who completely get where she’s coming from, and some dude who didn’t think there was a CF workout that compiled all the movements of one of the WODS she cited…

Only to be shown one post later that that workout was a WOD just this last May. hahaha…

Anywho, they’re an interesting group, the CF’ers.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I have decided that Crossfit isn’t so bad.

The WODs are only a suggestion and can be modified to fit ones abilities.

Most of the advanced members not only do the metcon session but do their own programs before or after that session. I see lots of strength training and gymnastics work being done in addition to the metcon workouts.

The best part about it is the fact that it is done in such a social setting. It’s really hard to cheat oneself when there are loads of hot chicks watching “the performance”.[/quote]

Agree…I do my 5/3/1 at a Crossfit gym…mostly for the eye candy.

Lots of the “crossfitters” do a strength workout and then a metcon like the rest of the world. [/quote]

The key I think will be to forgo the kool-aid when it starts being passed around.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I have decided that Crossfit isn’t so bad.

The WODs are only a suggestion and can be modified to fit ones abilities.

Most of the advanced members not only do the metcon session but do their own programs before or after that session. I see lots of strength training and gymnastics work being done in addition to the metcon workouts.

The best part about it is the fact that it is done in such a social setting. It’s really hard to cheat oneself when there are loads of hot chicks watching “the performance”.[/quote]

Agree…I do my 5/3/1 at a Crossfit gym…mostly for the eye candy.

Lots of the “crossfitters” do a strength workout and then a metcon like the rest of the world. [/quote]

The key I think will be to forgo the kool-aid when it starts being passed around.
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No worries there…I speak the language, but I don’t wanna metcon myself into a 175lb weakling.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
Damn good read, and having been exposed to the Xfit phenomena personally, I have to agree. While it is not the most evil thing out there, it is laughable to me. [/quote]

ya, you look (from your avatar) like a BIG dude. I imagine you killed them in the deads, overead presses, squats and cleans for maxes, but got tooled by little skinny guys who you outweighed by 50-70lbs, in the pull ups, running, hand stand presses, muscle ups, etc.

my wife had the same problem at crossfit. as far as the Lifting was concerned, she blew away all the women and most of the men, but when it came to running, and dips and chin ups, she got jobbed, as being a curvy latina, she was carrying around 20-40lbs more of hips and booty than most of of those emaciated chicks that trained there.

for example, she push pressed 135 x 3 one time, when most of the chicks there went out at 95-105lbs, and deadlifted 255 x 3 raw with a hook grip when most of the chicks went out at under 185lbs.

but in chin ups, she could do 3-4, while those skinny bitches could bust out 15-20. [/quote]

Judging by your description of her physique…I think it would be hot as hell watching her kip ;-)[/quote]

well said, haha, now that i think about it…

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I read most of that link to the Crossfit Forum and some people there are still quite objective…but yeah, that one guy Doug Something was taking the kool-aid too hard.