Did shoulder pain start after you started doing those “sots” presses?
I’d look into some thoracic mobility work too, in addition to shoulder stretching.
This is a decent video.
Edit: I skipped a lot of words since I was on my phone. I’m sorry to hear about the shoulder pain. I also got/get shoulder pain with some similar movements. Snatch grip is pretty comfortable behind the head, when overhead, but a lot more uncomfortable when it’s down on the shoulders (behind the head).
Additionally, thoracic extension is one factor of whether your shoulder is in a good position to support a weight. Without enough movement in the midback, your shoulders can be in a position that’s more likely to get impingement.
There are tons of “thoracic mobility” videos. What I like about that one is 1) he talks about a stretch, “the prayer stretch” which is one I had independently come up with for myself, that works well, and 2) he actually shows how to test and measure improvements.
I’ll check that out, thanks.
I think the pain was brewing before i added in the sots press. I’d always feel after push press like I’d been beaten with a baseball bat, but nothing i could put my finger on. Just a general right shoulder ache.
It is possible the sots press really pushes the buttons on it though.
Started off with some thoracic mobility from the video above. Need to put more time into this. Thanks @LoRez .
8 EMOM J4gga complex. 4@bar and 4@65.
Snatch: up to 125 and lots of reps at 105. Better than usual technique, not trying to push the weight yet.
Clean and Jerk: up to 155 and several singles at that weight.
One or two more days like this and i can feel a lot more comfortable/confident with heavier weight.
Kept a tight schedule for the o-lift session, going e2mom for 30+ minutes. It was a good idea. Enforced rest in a hurry and enforced effort when feeling slow.
Saturday 7/29/23
Can’t explain or describe the stress of the past 3 days. Its been really really rough.
No training yesterday as i was traveling.
Hotel fitness center this morning:
10 rounds, 50lb DB:
Goblet Squat 10,9,8…
Swings 10
Pushups 5
The last 6 rounds were EMOM but the first few were slower. It was very early in the morning ha.
Then, upper body pump - biceps triceps lats abs delts pecs - really quick just get the blood flowing. It always feels good and honestly i wish i could regularly add that stuff in.
Warmup 8 rounds of J4gga’s complex. 4 EMOM just the bar, 4 EMOM 65LB.
Front Squats: I was so confident today was the day to PR with 225LB. I was wrong.
Reps or singles at: 65LB, 95LB, 135, 155, 185, 205, then: Loaded 225. On the way up about 1/3 to 1/2 way out of the hole, dumped it forward.
Tried again after resetting everything - same result: had to bail partway up.
I didn’t fold forward, I was just unable to rise and dumping it was the only way out.
Very disappointed.
Push Press: 3x3x135. Tried 155 and got a decent rep followed by a bad or failed rep.
SGDL 3x3x225.
Biceps curls and BTN.
Done.
Very disappointed. Snacking habits at home are unbelievably awful. Due frankly to weakness of will but let’s be realistic, it’s due to extremely high stress. Performance likely down for the same reason - severe stress.
Hope for a therapeutic O-session Wednesday and better performance Friday… maybe. But things are going to be tough for a while.
Haha thanks, don’t know if you’re referring to a PR from a few days back, but today’s PR attempt was a big FAIL!
Either way I’ll get it eventually so I’ll take the congratulations in advance!
Yeah but at this stage its a coping mech for some acute issues unrelated to this forum.
I am aware of healthy snacks such as carrots and hummus.
Even plain almonds would be an improvement.
A normal man in my position would drink. At least i don’t do that.
Pwn mentioned eggs the other day, in the context of if you want to snack just eat eggs. If you are hungry you will keep eating them, if you aren’t you will stop quick enough. And even if you dont stop early how much damage can you do with an egg.
I could and will give you a list of healthy options - but if this is the case and you already know what good choices are, I won’t clog up your log. If it’s emotional or stress eating, you gotta tackle that beast and unfortunately the answer there isn’t “carrots and hummus”.
Let me know if there’s anything you need or want my help with. I’ll do everything I can to help you, but just don’t want to give you a bunch of info you already know. Also, sending you all my strength to fight the beast that you’re fighting. You’ve got this.
J4gga warmup EMOM, 4 with the bar and 4 with 65LB.
Snatch: Roughly E2MOM: 85, 85, 105, 105, 125, 125. Felt really good.
I would set up, and tense my entire body until the weight started to drift off the ground- unconsciously. Then slowly start it up, accelerating only once above the knees.
Felt solid. Video of the 125lb shows still catching high, but I think I was catching 105 at a good low depth, and the 125 is caught lower than last time I got a video IMO.
Clean and Jerk:
Worked up to 155 and did a couple singles there. No real problems, had to remind myself to catch in a more solid front-squat position rather than out front of my chest, and force the bar into my throat for the front squat.
Split Jerk practice: Sets of 3 at 135.
BTN: Couple sets of 20 at 65lb.
Couple sets of DB curls.
@j4gga2 what do you think about me dropping the Sots press from the warmup complex, so I could do more weight? The Sots press dominates the entire complex - it’s horrible and feels like wrecking my shoulders, but all the other parts of the complex feel good and like I could move up 20lbs.
If you think the Sots press is teaching me something important or training an underdeveloped muscle, I’ll defer to your judgment and keep it.
But I basically collapse all strength once the bar gets down to neck level, and have to re-orient my body in weird ways to get joints set up to lift it off my traps. In short, I hate it! ha.
Warmup with the J4gga complex. 8 rounds EMOM 65lb. Having dropped the Sots press it consists of: Tall snatch from hips; Overhead squat; Snatch Balance; Squat snatch from hips.
Felt great with no Sots. Thanks @j4gga2
Front Squat: Worked up slowly to a lifetime PR single 225lb.
Take that, last Monday! Focused on whole body tension. Video makes it look like I was hunched over really far, didn’t feel that way but maybe. Or maybe it’s just the angle. Will post the video eventually.
Push Press: 135lb, 8 singles EMOM. After a few reps my left shoulder felt beaten up but I did all planned reps regardless.
SGDL: 3x3x225. Got a little more out of it than before, because after my snatch epiphany Wednesday I’m now tensing my whole body until the weight breaks from the floor almost unconsciously.
DB C&P: Once each side with 75lb, once each side with 90lb. Felt pretty cool to hold that overhead.
