Okay, I checked New Jersey and yes, we have the Good Samaritan Law.
I’ve thought about learning CPR for years. This thread reminds me that now is a good a time as any to learn.
Thanks!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, I checked New Jersey and yes, we have the Good Samaritan Law.
I’ve thought about learning CPR for years. This thread reminds me that now is a good a time as any to learn.
Thanks!
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I took my 8 hour course for work last wednesday…booooooooring but I did learn alot.
30:2 for sure, also they taught us to put our ear to their mouth and look at the chest for signs of breathing for ten seconds, then tilt the head back, pinch the nose and make two quick breaths* it’s not a balloon* then the compressions 30:2 5x. Half the battle is staying calm and thinking clearly.
Not sure if the video said the same thing, after last week no fucking way am I watching another video lol.
I did the same course too. I like the role play that’s involved haha…but it was over a year ago…so we DO make 2 quick breaths and THEN 30 chest compressions right? We have to do that shit 5x though?
Side note: Do the ribs crack that easily?
[quote]rasturai wrote:
I did the same course too. I like the role play that’s involved haha…but it was over a year ago…so we DO make 2 quick breaths and THEN 30 chest compressions right? We have to do that shit 5x though?
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Exactly. Do it five times, then call it a day and go fishing.
Maybe I misunderstood your post…
[quote]kakno wrote:
[quote]rasturai wrote:
I did the same course too. I like the role play that’s involved haha…but it was over a year ago…so we DO make 2 quick breaths and THEN 30 chest compressions right? We have to do that shit 5x though?
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Exactly. Do it five times, then call it a day and go fishing.
Maybe I misunderstood your post…[/quote]
You do the 30 compressions and 2 breaths 5 times (roughly 2 minutes worth of CPR) then you recheck for breathing and a pulse and then continue. You continue administering CPR until:
The patient regains a pulse and starts breathing on their own.
You are relieved by someone equally or more qualified.
The scene becomes unsafe.
Or you become to physically exhausted to continue.
Thanks gregron.
That kind of thing is tuff to see. I hope you can sleep tonight, Bellig.
[quote]gregron wrote:
some states (like Vermont) their good Samaritan Law actually orders their citizens to help those in need.[/quote]
IIRC the series finale of Seinfeld was based on this. It wasn’t CPR related, but they got charged for not helping someone out.
Yeah…IDK if this has been said yet, but if you work in a gym aren’t you required to learn CPR? I know I was as a trainer, and even managers and assitant managers had to learn it too…and we redo it EVERY year. I’m sorry, if a manager of a gym doesn’t know CPR thats pretty stupid.
Actually we’re taught CPR and use of an AED machine, even though they take you step by step once you crack it open, most even talk you through it.
I think all gyms are supposed to carry an AED machine…aren’t they? I know thats one of the things some health clubs get inspected for.
pics or it didn’t happen
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, I checked New Jersey and yes, we have the Good Samaritan Law.
I’ve thought about learning CPR for years. This thread reminds me that now is a good a time as any to learn.
Thanks!
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Cool ID i like your interest. seeing as youre not trained youre good to go, but if say, you get CPR certified then recheck your good samaritan law and see if it will still cover you. from what im getting from greg im assuming in his state it will cover all people so long as they are not on the job. (correct me if im wrong, i dont mean to make wrong assumptions) To my knowledge where i live it will only cover you if you have no training, on the job or not. As long as you are not on the job you have no legal obligation to act, but once you choose to you must follow your protocol/SOP’s.
Also regarding CPR i dont think the good samaritan law will really come into effect. check for breaths/sounds, check pulse, no and no start your CPR. not too much to fuck up. It more comes back to the story about the extrication where the lady got sued and lost due to not following her learned SOP’s and thus this man got paralyzed. (to my knowledge)
[quote]gregron wrote:
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Or you become to physically exhausted to continue.
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People dont believe it but this stuff is exhausting.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Actually we’re taught CPR and use of an AED machine, even though they take you step by step once you crack it open, most even talk you through it.[/quote]
Yeah theyre real good to have at gyms and such. they really do talk to you and if you cant handle that you shouldnt be holding down any form of job anyways.
A guy actually did die while my brother was training, got off the treadmill, collapsed from a heart attack. They tried to resuscitate him and failed.
Unlucky bugger.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
A genteman in his 60s was lifting weights next to me… I was standing a few feet away from him, with my back turned as I was racking my dumbells, and I heard him say “oh, shit!” in what did not sound like a terribly alarmed manner. I did not hear him hit the ground. When I turned around a few seconds later, and he was lying on the weight floor with his head underneath the dumbell rack. I approached him, his eyes were open but he was totally unresponsive, and he was gasping and making horrible snoring noises.
I knew it was bad, so I sprinted to the front desk and told the girl to call an ambulance and tell them to get here NOW. Then the manager and I ran back downstairs to find him turning purple and foaming at the mouth. The manager, who assured everybody that she was trained in CPR, monitored his breathing and pulse, and kept telling me that his breathing and heart rate were strong… and that she didn’t want to move him because “he IS breathing and I don’t want to change anything.”
But that didn’t mesh with what I was seeing, because he was turning totally fucking purple and just gasping occasionally. I told the manager that I didn’t think he was breathing, but she kept her hands on his pulse and kept reassuring me that his vital signs felt “real good.” His hands were turning purple, his gasps and gutteral noises became less frequent and I was stressing the fuck out big time.
Well, evidently the manager doesn’t know what the hell a pulse is supposed to feel like, because when the paramedics arrived, they took one fucking look at him, determined he did NOT have a pulse after all and started doing CPR. I was sitting there watching them pump his chest, waching his abdomen distend, and he just looked like a totally dead sack of flesh. Then they whipped out their defibrillator and shocked him to no avail. I never felt sicker in my life, and while they continued pumping his chest and working on him, all I could think about was that I was watching the final moments of a man’s existence. And it wasn’t fascinating at all, but instead was one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen.
But, thankfully, one lucky blast from the defibrillator finally did manage to jump-start his heart, and although he never regained conciousness, he eventually did start breathing on his own again, and then they took him off to the hospital. Said it was probably a heart attack. I hope to God he doesn’t have brain damage because nobody did CPR before the paramedics arrived.
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Tell the family to sue the fucking gym for failing to render aid. If they had one of those auto defibs there some many places have, all the idiot had to do was hook it up and it would determine if he needed shocking or not. But sounds to me like she was not properly trained…and she should have been.
Has anyone suggested the parody thread “A Guy Deadlifted At My Gym Today”?
[quote]Nards wrote:
Has anyone suggested the parody thread “A Guy Deadlifted At My Gym Today”?[/quote]
LOL!
You could do it, but since the Mods think we’re a bunch a bratty kids (and we do often act like it), parody threads have been banned.