it will work!!! looks good to me…
Today was second injection. 2ml in right vastus lateralis,(250mg test/ 150mg tren). I have to admit the right ass cheek is a little tender to pressure. The 3 ml I put in it on Sunday were a rude awakening to the muscle tissue. There is no redness or swelling so I am not concerned. It is just a little reminder everytime I sit down. I don’t forsee this effecting my workouts any.
Tonight will be my first tough workout since the cycle began. For chest I will be sticking to my 5x5 flat bench workout. I will be starting off easy (285) and hopefully making 10lb increases every week, 5lb at min. Other chest movements will be neutral grip DB, Hammer Press and Blast Strap Pushups. As I mentioned earlier my big goal for this cycle is to finally get my 400 or 405 raw bench.
One other thing, I have decided to go ahead and include GHRP-6 into my cycle. I am now trying to figure out were to put it, either during AAS use or along with the test taper as PCT. More to come on that topic.
As of now I am planning on running GHRP-6 for 10 weeks following my insulin use at 300mcg/day shot post workout. This should take me from the last couple weeks of my cycle and well into my test taper. I will then follow up the GHRP-6 use with another IGF cycle.
Many who have experience with this peptide have advised me to run it through the duration of my bulking cycle to take advantage of the appetite increase. However I do not feel comfortable running 2 new compounds at the same time (insulin and GHRP-6). Especially since both will be shot PWO. I may bump my insulin use up several weeks to get more of the GHRP-6 use during the bulk of my cycle.
Thoughts anyone?
600mg of tren a week? That a lot! Doesn’t that kill your appetite? I know some advanced guys that use a lot less in their cycles. Just make sure you stay healthy.
Sometimes people gain more on smaller cycles because big doses can kill your appetite. And if you are really having a hard time eating thats a sign your liver is stressed.
I’ve used injectable B12, actually still use it and it helps me eat more.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
600mg of tren a week? That a lot! Doesn’t that kill your appetite? I know some advanced guys that use a lot less in their cycles. Just make sure you stay healthy.
Sometimes people gain more on smaller cycles because big doses can kill your appetite. And if you are really having a hard time eating thats a sign your liver is stressed.
I’ve used injectable B12, actually still use it and it helps me eat more. [/quote]
I usually have a good appetite. It is too soon to tell if this high dose of tren will effect that or not. I have ran tren before at a smaller dose and did not have any problems. However I think that the GHRP-6 will be great at combating any loss of appetite that may arise.
As of now I am hitting my proposed 6300kcal and I really don’t feel too stuffed. I basically eat a small meal every 2 hours. If I don’t get my meal right on time I get really hungry and a little tempermental. I think this is because for 1 I am hungry and 2 I know that I’m getting off my meal plan. Only time will tell if the high doses effect my eating, I will keep a close eye on it.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
As of now I am hitting my proposed 6300kcal and I really don’t feel too stuffed. I basically eat a small meal every 2 hours. If I don’t get my meal right on time I get really hungry and a little tempermental. I think this is because for 1 I am hungry and 2 I know that I’m getting off my meal plan. Only time will tell if the high doses effect my eating, I will keep a close eye on it.[/quote]
I turn into an asshole when I’m hungry for the same reasons too.
You ever think of doing Test EQ and Tren? EQ bumps the appetite up quite a bit in most people.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
2thepain wrote:
As of now I am hitting my proposed 6300kcal and I really don’t feel too stuffed. I basically eat a small meal every 2 hours. If I don’t get my meal right on time I get really hungry and a little tempermental. I think this is because for 1 I am hungry and 2 I know that I’m getting off my meal plan. Only time will tell if the high doses effect my eating, I will keep a close eye on it.
I turn into an asshole when I’m hungry for the same reasons too.
You ever think of doing Test EQ and Tren? EQ bumps the appetite up quite a bit in most people. [/quote]
I was strongly considering adding in 300-400mg/week EQ just for that exact reason. I wanted to keep a class II oral and I like dbol so I didn’t want to drop that. I was already at about 2 grams a week of total gear and I didn’t want to get too in over my head. My previous high was only 1500mg/week so this was new ground for myself.
Last nights chest workout was interesting. I was very excited to get started and all through warm up I felt great. I start hitting my work set and the weight still felt light, but I began to cramp. Not only in my chest but in my forearms and traps. I don’t know why. My forearms were sore going into it but the traps, WTF? I think I may have been a little dehydrated. I didn’t miss any lifts and the pump was good so I will call it a success. I will attempt to drink as much water today as possible and hope to avoid this in the future.
I just read a very good article by AR on GHRP-6. He states that insulin, GHRP-6 and AAS would be a very potent combo. I bought 25,000 mcg and will use these during cycle as well as PCT. 12 weeks total. I am unsure of the exact start date. It will depend on the trens effect on my diet, or lack there of.
The article for those who are interested.
I’m far from being a vet but I’m assuming if you post your cycle that one of the reasons being is that you’re attempting to identify if there is anything that you’ve overlooked, which is the only reason that I am chiming in; that and the fact that if I’m wrong I can gain some clarity from those who know otherwise:
If you find yourself in a position where you are going to need the Nolva, from what I’ve seen via the PCT calculator when combined with a test taper you may want to reach for it during the last week of the taper when blood levels hit (100 I believe) a certain point. It has been my understanding that the waiting period for PCT was to allow blood levels to reach a point where esterified test approaches a sub-normal level, which would happen quite rapidly if you were coming straight off of your actual cycle.
Assuming that you’re using P22’s protocol, you are tapering at 100mg/wk for 6 weeks and then something like 80,70,60,50,40,30. If that is the case the calculator shows PCT S/B started by week 12 of the taper rather than 2 weeks past that point.
If I’m wrong, please let me know…I’m here to learn.
PS Monster cycle; I believe you will surpass the goals you have posted.
[quote]Mousse wrote:
I’m far from being a vet but I’m assuming if you post your cycle that one of the reasons being is that you’re attempting to identify if there is anything that you’ve overlooked, which is the only reason that I am chiming in; that and the fact that if I’m wrong I can gain some clarity from those who know otherwise:
If you find yourself in a position where you are going to need the Nolva, from what I’ve seen via the PCT calculator when combined with a test taper you may want to reach for it during the last week of the taper when blood levels hit (100 I believe) a certain point. It has been my understanding that the waiting period for PCT was to allow blood levels to reach a point where esterified test approaches a sub-normal level, which would happen quite rapidly if you were coming straight off of your actual cycle.
Assuming that you’re using P22’s protocol, you are tapering at 100mg/wk for 6 weeks and then something like 80,70,60,50,40,30. If that is the case the calculator shows PCT S/B started by week 12 of the taper rather than 2 weeks past that point.
If I’m wrong, please let me know…I’m here to learn.
PS Monster cycle; I believe you will surpass the goals you have posted.[/quote]
My plans as of now are to possibly use the nolv after my last test shot (25mg). Nolv is not a part of P-22s original test taper protocol but I have heard of others using it after a taper. Especially on highly suppressive cycles.
No, PCT is not part of his taper and I would agree with your logic that after a highly suppressive cycle such as this that PCT following a taper can’t be a bad thing. I just wanted to point out that the “PCT window” may open up a little sooner following a taper; it sounds like my assumptions hold and you are on top of it. Thanks and happy gains to you.
This morning I shot another 1.5ml test and 1.5ml tren in my left vastus lateralis. Good news, the dull pain in my right glute is gone from the first injection. My muscles felt kinda full this morning. It may be a little early in the cycle, but I think the dbol is already kicking in.
Tonight will be interesting. I am starting off with deadlift (530). I am predicting that this weight should go up with no problems. If I predict correctly I will then start planning out an ideal day to go for a new PR. Out of all the major lifts the deadlift is close to a PR already, so it should be the first to be reached.
I will be receiving my GHRP-6 in about a week (25,000)mcg. So starting week 3 I will begin to inject 300mcg PWO everyday. I will do this for 12 weeks.
Good news. This morning I weighed in at 234. So I have been on for 5 days so far and have gained 6 lbs. Not a bad start, considering I have so many more tricks up my sleeve. Also on a positive note my appetite has been able to keep up with the 6300 calories. Actually I find myself starving right before I eat my next meal. With the addition in a couple of weeks of GHRP-6 I will probably allow for an all out PWO feast that will put me well over 7000 calories.
On the flip side I haven�??t noticed any huge strength gains yet. I pulled 513 last night and it felt heavier than I wanted it to. It went up fine but I had some curve in my back so I decided to not push for any PRs as of yet. An injury deadlifting could throw off my entire cycle. I guess I shouldn�??t be too disappointed, it is only 5 days in and I�??m using enthanate esters.
I have noticed something that needs to be mentioned. Over the last couple days, and especially last night and this morning I have noticed a sharp increase in aggression. I am normally a very easy going person but find that small things make me instantly angry. I have not done anything stupid as I am aware that the tren may be behind this. I acknowledge that the issues are small and talk myself out of the anger.
I have ran tren once before. Tren A at 40mg/day. A big difference from 600mg/week. I am not doubting that I can control this but I thought I would mention it.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
I have noticed something that needs to be mentioned. Over the last couple days, and especially last night and this morning I have noticed a sharp increase in aggression. I am normally a very easy going person but find that small things make me instantly angry. I have not done anything stupid as I am aware that the tren may be behind this. I acknowledge that the issues are small and talk myself out of the anger.
I have ran tren once before. Tren A at 40mg/day. A big difference from 600mg/week. I am not doubting that I can control this but I thought I would mention it. [/quote]
I felt very explosive aggression at the beggining of my previous cycle,Im almost ppositive that its the dbol.
Either way it doesnt compare to the aggression you get when test is fully locked and loaded. 
I had my 4th IM yesterday. Finally I am starting to notice some strength gains. Small gains but I finished some sets that would not have been finished last week, with decreased rest periods.
I was starting to have a hard time eating this weekend. I think having some premature Christmas events to go to hurt me a little. I was able to hit 6000 on Sat and 5700 on Sunday, but these are below what I wanted to hit daily. Hopefully this week will be easier with my set schedule and all.
Currently I am trying to get my GHRP-6 protocol planned out. I am considering either one injection per day PWO or maybe 2 injections, early morning and PWO. I will post whatever I decide before I go through with it.
I will weigh again next friday and probably take some new measuements at the end of week 3.
I have planned my protocol for GHRP-6 injections. Starting as soon as it arrives I will shoot 200mcg PWO. Also I will shoot 100mcg sometime opposite the PWO injection. So depending on if I have a noon training session or a 7:00PM training session I will shoot before bed or early morning. I hope to get some benefit from the GH production as well as a big boost in appetite PWO.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
I have planned my protocol for GHRP-6 injections. Starting as soon as it arrives I will shoot 200mcg PWO. Also I will shoot 100mcg sometime opposite the PWO injection. So depending on if I have a noon training session or a 7:00PM training session I will shoot before bed or early morning. I hope to get some benefit from the GH production as well as a big boost in appetite PWO.[/quote]
Sounds good man. So whats your setup with the igf/mgf,are you still adding these to your cycle? you stated mgf for wks 1-4 or was that for weeks 1-4 of pct?
[quote]sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
I have planned my protocol for GHRP-6 injections. Starting as soon as it arrives I will shoot 200mcg PWO. Also I will shoot 100mcg sometime opposite the PWO injection. So depending on if I have a noon training session or a 7:00PM training session I will shoot before bed or early morning. I hope to get some benefit from the GH production as well as a big boost in appetite PWO.
Sounds good man. So whats your setup with the igf/mgf,are you still adding these to your cycle? you stated mgf for wks 1-4 or was that for weeks 1-4 of pct?
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I am currently shooting MGF on Mon/Fri 200mcg per IM. The IGF will not be used until PCT, after AAS and GHRP-6 use.