I’m researching a cyle of orals which I am considering. I have been reading up on such cycles and I think it will give me a good introduction to the kind of discipline you’ll need when on cycle ie Diet spot, no drinking, plenty of sleep and work like a b*stard in the gym etc.
I know Dbol has been used forever & there’s not much hepatoxicity (or so I have read).
I have read also that it bloats you sh!t loads because of the oestrogenic characteristics of the drug, is this a major problem?
I don’t want to jab as I would have problems with the Mrs finding out, also I want to keep it quiet.
Goal: Add 10-12lbs muscle and reduce body fat.
Current Stats:
6f 2, 190lbs, bodyfat 16%
Proposed Cycle:
Dianabol for 6 weeks
30mg/day with 1.2g/day Milk thistle.
21day PCT (Post cycle therapy) - Nolvadex 10mg/day starting when the 6week cycle ends
Diet:
Lots of Protein/good fats
I have read many different things regarding cycles like the one I am looking into. Would I need to take the Nolvadex at the start of the cycle or would I only use that after the 6weeks?
Can I just point out, I am not looking for a debate against orals v’s jabbing.
I only want an opinion of the oral cycle I am proposing.
I do not want to jab on my first cycle, yes I may lose much of my gains but this is more about the discipline more than anything.
I realize some of you do not agree with orals for a first time and many would say wait until you are ready to jab, I can only say that I am not looking for the same age old debate - just info.
What he is saying is to at least attempt to try to do some research on your own first.
Instead of signing up here, making a post and asking for directions and saying “hey can you guys do my work for me”
There have been a hundred posts at least on d bol cycles. Have you even read a couple of them? I highly doubt it as you would of then realized that the goals you have are not in the least realistic compared to what you have planned out to do.
That being said d bol only cycles are pretty near worthless. AAS is not certainly not something you need at your currnent body composition and age im assuming.
Fair comment. I am trying to to some research that is why I am here.
From what I have read I should be able to gain at least 8lbs in six weeks, although I realize I may lose much of that.
I’m 29 by the way.
“That being said d bol only cycles are pretty near worthless. AAS is not certainly not something you need at your currnent body composition and age im assuming.”
I think you might want to do some research maybe if you think your statement there is true. Not having a go but I have read about many people making & keeping good gains on orals.
It’s just so hard to know what to believe. Only today the guy at my supplement store tried to sell my some mtest and was telling me it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread…
“It’s because of what I just told you. You don’t know what you’re doing”
I realize I don’t know what I am doing and I was just pitching an idea, I guess I am posting what is in my head at the moment and hoping that any replies will lead me down another path, yours has done just that. I wasn’t having ago at the other guy, I was just stating that many other people have gained using orals - he stated that all gains would be lost.
“you’re not done doing research on this at all”
Tell me about it. Sorry if I come across a bit know it all, that’s not my intention.
I will not try any form of gear until I have trained for at least another 12months with diet spot on.
I will try and phrase my wording a little better. I am humble, I am a novice and I am years away from gear if I am honest with myself.
Hopefully the other guys are not too offended and will help me along the way.
I appreciate these posts are repetitive after a while, I hope that when I gain the necessary knowledge that I have the patience such as you have shown with me.
I only have 2 cents on this, because of my limited knowledge.
Don’t lie to your wife/girlfriend, you will have to own up eventually, and shes going to get hopping mad when you tell her later. My girlfriend got pretty angry when I told her I messed with “legal gear” (one of my dumber moments) months after the fact which was really stupid. But I had the excuse of saying I did it shortly and it was fake and I learned my lesson. You wont have that excuse if you get caught lying and you have been on gear for 6 weeks and shes not ok with it.
your goal 8lbs in 6 weeks is easily attainable with a good diet and good program. I cannot emphasis how low that goal is while on steroids.
