First Cycle

with all of the quality information given to you in your other thread and you still have decided to “try a six week cycle of steroids”…how are you gonna try it, it’s not something you try, it’s something you do or something you don’t do…i’m not a fan of sugar coating anything for anybody and you are not ready to delve into the world of anabolics. from your presentation of your situation to the way that you presented your question all SCREAM “I’m not ready, i’m just lazy and impatient.” I don’t know you and I probably never will, but I know that if you are 20 years old and you think that steroids are your next logical step then you are lazy and impatient. I say this because you obviously haven’t done your research about supplements or steroids and you are no where near your “genetic limits”…which in my opinion is horse sht and a reason to use anabolics, etc…but the last thing i’m going to say to you is don’t post dumb as threads asking for sources for steroids and how much they cost cause that’s exactly what doesn’t need to happen on these boards. think, before you help get this entire “think tank” shut down for the rest of us. I’m not bashing you directly or the use of anabolics, etc. but you happened to be the one that posted that stupid thread and i just happened to be the first one to reply. go learn man, then make intelligent decisions. good luck and i wish much knowledge upon you in the future.

Well unfortunately someone replied before I was able to add something. I want to apologize and want everyone to disregard my last post because I just came across the thread “Steroids for newbies”. I’ve read several articles as well and have a better grasp of things now.

I came across a Dr Feelgood in my city and was stupid. After playing phone tag for a couple of days with the doctor I simply asked the receptionist to relay the question and have the doctor call me back. I said I wanted to do a 6 week cylce of steroids and I wanted to know how much they cost. She said hold on and then said Dr so and so doesn’t provide that type of treatment. I gave my full name when I called.

I read Cy Wilson’s article “Your Doctor, Your Dealer”. I actually suffered from overtraining a year ago and had testoserone deficiency and my doctor suspected that I had used steroids when I hadn’t. He didn’t want to prescribe anything for me. I had a blood test done. I’m wondering if I can use this to my advantage when seeing this new doctor.

My goals are to put on 10-15 lbs of muscle and get cut. My friend looks much more lean at 14% bf than I did a year ago at 11%. I’m now at 17% and I don’t want to bulk up and put on more fat. I don’t want to cut and become too skinny. Steroids seem like the best option. This isn’t the sole reason but the only one I feel like mentioning right now.

How does this sound for a first cycle? Six weeks of Winstrol and Deca, 500 mg/wk of each. At week 8 begin taking Nolvadex at 20 mg day for 3 weeks.

Is this realistic if I’m lookin to spend around $400? I’m not quite sure how cheap I get this if I go through my doctor with insurance and all.

Doesn’t sound good, if it’s nandrolone deconoate which it probably is, then it’s half life is around two weeks give or take a few days. You would need to drop the deca altogether at least 2-3 weeks before the end of your cycle or there could still be a decent amount in your system for weeks after your supposed to be off. Same goes for equipoise and to a lesser extent test enanthate.

Do a search for steroid half-lives and it will give you a better idea of how to plan out your cycle and dosages.

From the research I’ve done thus far my dosages seemed correct. I’ve tried searching on half-lives and didn’t come up with many pertinent results. I don’t really understand the concept of half-lives. From what I’ve read so far it sounds like the half life of most of these steroids is about 10 hrs.

Again, I want to do a pretty safe cyle. I don’t want to retain a lot of water and I don’t want a steroid that aromatizes. I want to cut a lot of fat and put on 10-15 lbs of muscle post cycle. I’d really appreciate it if some of you more knowledgeable guys would help me out here. I’d like to start this cycle in about a week.

glock just stop before you hurt yourself. From your post so far I still can’t tell if you are serious or if you are just trying to see how much it takes to piss off the ones of us who take our bodys seriously and who actually do our research before poking our selves full of holes.
Well if you are for real about this then please just stop and sell or give away any gear you already have.
listen and learn more, talk and do less.
DA

[quote]glock wrote:
My goals are to put on 10-15 lbs of muscle and get cut. My friend looks much more lean at 14% bf than I did a year ago at 11%. I’m now at 17% and I don’t want to bulk up and put on more fat. I don’t want to cut and become too skinny. Steroids seem like the best option. This isn’t the sole reason but the only one I feel like mentioning right now. [/quote]

glock,

I gotta agree, you are looking for an easy way to achieve your goals when in fact there is no easy way. It is all work, and mostly hard work. But you appear to want it handed to you. You can certainly achieve the goals you’ve delineated above by hard training, proper diet and correct supplements. I would suggest you re-read the “Beast Evolves” and “Mutation” series. Look what CT was able to achieve in six weeks of hard work. Steroids should be your alternative of last resort, after you’ve exhausted all other possibilities.

Get working!

Yeah, aside from the fact that you haven’t done all of your research, I agree with many others…

If you do your cycle you probably wont get the results you’re looking for.

btw, nandrolone aromatizes to progesterone and it’s halflife is 14 days (you dumbass) :wink:

I’ve been 100% serious. The decision to juice is mine and I’ve already made it. I haven’t sat down and read articles for 10 hrs but I’ve done some general research. I’ve read some other posts in this forum where you guys have actually helped someone when they post what they think they will do for their first cycle.

It would take less than 5 min for some of you guys to give me a little help in planning my cycle. I didn’t think that was much to ask. There is some urgency on my part to get started soon so I can achieve my results by the time I head back to school this fall.

[quote]glock wrote:
I haven’t sat down and read articles for 10 hrs but I’ve done some general research.[/quote]

LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

Your about to inject something into your body, yet you’ve probably done less research than the average person would buying a computer or a car. I think people are trying to help you out by telling you to become self-sufficient and self-reliant for the decision that you are about to make, which isn’t trivial and shouldn’t be made without totally understanding the consequences.