Let me start by saying that yes I am a huge dumb ass for doing this but I have my own personal reasons. I’ve had 2 cycles of test sitting in my closet for about a month now. I lifted regularly about 3 years ago 5/7 days a week and stopped due to my slow progress (which I deeply regret). I just picked it back up about a month ago along with a great diet. I’ve already seen minor gains but I’m craving more and more. So back to my main point…
Before I did any research on gear, I was one of the morons who thought I could just buy some gear and start juicing right away. Well luckily, I did hours of research on the subject and noticed many professionals stating it is a terrible idea to do it so early in training. Well this is my issue and this is why you’ll all think I’m the world’s biggest douchelord… I’m going against everyone’s advice and plan on working out just one more month before I start juicing. So basically, I’ll start my first cycle of test ever on only 2 months of training. Call me dumb, I don’t care. I just have no patience and everyday when I get home from the gym, I see those two vials sitting there and it’s KILLING me.
If I would’ve done my research before buying the gear, I wouldn’t have to worry about this at all. But since I already have it, I’ll be a dumb ass and go for it. My point in posting this is really to find someone who knows I’m an idiot for doing this but will also post some encouragement or maybe even some advice for a newbie like me with only 2 months under my belt. I’ve seen all of the negatives like, “100% you will injure yourself” or “don’t juice until you’ve reached your gains limit” etc etc… I figure I’ll get some negative comments bashing on my stupidity, just figured it would be worth a shot to see if anyone out there has any positivity to throw my way. Thanks guys.
[quote]smellykweef wrote:
Let me start by saying that yes I am a huge dumb ass for doing this but I have my own personal reasons. I’ve had 2 cycles of test sitting in my closet for about a month now. I lifted regularly about 3 years ago 5/7 days a week and stopped due to my slow progress (which I deeply regret). I just picked it back up about a month ago along with a great diet. I’ve already seen minor gains but I’m craving more and more. So back to my main point…
Before I did any research on gear, I was one of the morons who thought I could just buy some gear and start juicing right away. Well luckily, I did hours of research on the subject and noticed many professionals stating it is a terrible idea to do it so early in training. Well this is my issue and this is why you’ll all think I’m the world’s biggest douchelord… I’m going against everyone’s advice and plan on working out just one more month before I start juicing. So basically, I’ll start my first cycle of test ever on only 2 months of training. Call me dumb, I don’t care. I just have no patience and everyday when I get home from the gym, I see those two vials sitting there and it’s KILLING me.
If I would’ve done my research before buying the gear, I wouldn’t have to worry about this at all. But since I already have it, I’ll be a dumb ass and go for it. My point in posting this is really to find someone who knows I’m an idiot for doing this but will also post some encouragement or maybe even some advice for a newbie like me with only 2 months under my belt. I’ve seen all of the negatives like, “100% you will injure yourself” or “don’t juice until you’ve reached your gains limit” etc etc… I figure I’ll get some negative comments bashing on my stupidity, just figured it would be worth a shot to see if anyone out there has any positivity to throw my way. Thanks guys.
the idiot newbie[/quote]
how old are you?
really, the issue with cycling too early, is you “waste” beginner gains. since you lifted for years and are getting back into it, you should re-gain most of what you had before.
if you’re not gaining now and weren’t gaining before, then you should prolly re-evaluate your training and diet. feel free to post it here…
if everything’s on point, then doing a cycle now isn’t really gonna mess you up, as long as you cycle safely and do a solid PCT.
Well, as you can imagine we get a lot of noob questions here by people who have no business cycling.
The problem with it is that if someone has not got enough training experience (a few years of training and - perhaps more importantly - EATING enough to make gains), then any muscle they build on cycle will be lost afterwards as they are not training hard enough or eating enough protein/calories to keep the new muscle.
Happens all the time. Some guy, frustrated at this lack of progress, bloats up 10lbs on cycle, only to lose it all on PCT. He then blames the fact that steroid gains “aren’t keepable, bro,” when it was really just due to the guy not being ready.
It’s likely that this is the situation you’re in. I don’t know you, so I can’t say for sure, but past experience with these kind of threads suggests it.
That said, your post was considerably more endearing most. While you probably have no business doing a cycle, if some irresponsible person was to lay one out for you they’d say something like:
-500mg test every week (pin mon and thurs) for 10-12 weeks
-.5mg adex eod
-30mg dbol ed for first 4 weeks (optional)
-hcg 250iu twice or thrice weekly (use a slin pin and pin subQ) stopping 3 days before PCT
-PCT starts two weeks after your last pin (so the thursday 2 weeks after your last week on)
-PCT is 4 weeks of clomid at 50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.[/quote]
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.[/quote]
Really? 2grams of protein / lb of bw? [/quote]
it’s more than I would eat but certainly not unusual by bodybuilding standards
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.[/quote]
Really? 2grams of protein / lb of bw? [/quote]
For him, yes. For everyone else, it depends.
I get away with 0.8g and am doing fine. Would you like me to elaborate?
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.[/quote]
Really? 2grams of protein / lb of bw? [/quote]
it’s more than I would eat but certainly not unusual by bodybuilding standards[/quote]
Sounded like it was suggested as a min. requirement the way it was delivered. I know advanced bodybuilders may consume that much but that takes ALOT of building up to get too
Such an irresponsible person would also suggest you drastically increase calories and get 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight and eat a similar amount during pct while doing everything possible to preserve strength gains if you don’t want to lose everything after the cycle.
I would not condone such an irresponsible and morally rephrehensible person dispensing such advice as well.[/quote]
Really? 2grams of protein / lb of bw? [/quote]
For him, yes. For everyone else, it depends.
I get away with 0.8g and am doing fine. Would you like me to elaborate?
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I eat 600 times the weight of my left foot divided by the length of right index finger plus the length of penis squared plus the age I lost my virginity in grams of protein it has not let me down yet.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I eat 600 times the weight of my left foot divided by the length of right index finger plus the length of penis squared plus the age I lost my virginity in grams of protein it has not let me down yet.[/quote]
The secret to massive strength gains has finally been revealed
Well that’s only the diet the secret honestly to strength gains is that what what ever you want to total you run double that on Test and Half of it of Tren lol works for alot of people I know I have yet to even consider 3000mg of Test Let alone 4 and 5000 but at the same time def getting bored of not having a world record attached to name.