I can imagine it would at first. Think of a guy that is recognized by all of her family, friends, peers as the best. Just straight up the best. All of them look up to him, and not just by a little bit.
Think like Justin Bieber level social status x1000. I think she rarely left cloud 9. You’d be expecting a wildly abnormal level of confidence and independence in thought for a human of any age to even experience it differently, in my view.
I’m not saying for sure what she experienced, but that’s the far most reasonable and likely to me.
I don’t think you said that from deep consideration - just a reflex since your Christian, but hey - I could be wrong.
I rambled quite a bit. That video spoke to a passion of mine. I can simplify my main thing easily inshaAllah
There’s an elegant Hadith:
The believer is a mirror to his brother
There’s many Hadith that describe the terribleness of backbiting
What does a person see when he looks in the mirror?
Trick question. Usually you’d think himself. While driving we use mirrors to see easily what we would have had difficulty in seeing behind us.
So he seems to function as a believer and mirror but incorrectly. Because he’s tilted himself at an angle to broadcast private mistakes to the public that cannot fix them. His audience may get a lower image of Islam.
The better thing would be to align himself at an angle that shows the flaws to the ones that are doing them, and have difficult confrontations with the actual people he is speaking about (90% of Islamic scholars according to him).
That’s the main thing.
Some of his points seemed off to me and some seemed helpful
His audience is Muslims, I believe. Not only, but that’s mostly who he seems to be trying to reach.
How would he do it then? Personally? Like in a one on one conversation, with all those Islamic scholars? Is that what you’re trying to say, or do I missunderstand you?
I don’t think one can refer to the many problems that are (still) so prevalent within Islam, in 2024, as ‘‘private mistakes’’. They aren’t private, they are widespread within this religion, and that will not change unless more reasonable and rational Muslims dennounce these (which is what he’s doing, rightly so). Only then can Islam be compatible with the Western civilization.
I mean, there’s a reason you don’t see the Jews still stoning women for commiting adultery. Enough of them were probably like ‘‘you know what, guys, we probably should stop doing this, it don’t feel right’’.
Stuff like this actually happens in this day and age. In sex cults like Children of God, for example, where mothers offer up their young daughters to be defiled by old perverts.
Right, that was how I saw it. Muslims can have varying degrees of confidence in themselves and their religion. His job should not be to lower either.
You understood. I don’t put it on him individually to fix everybody. I’m saying from what I saw in that video (and it is just one video) the root problem is not likely to get fixed like that - tragedy of the commons lets say.
If he fixes one scholar in private it’s better than damaging the public.
Early in the video he describes problems he had with things he was taught in school by teachers.
At 2:00 he says “Our problem is that we always weigh up our interests”
“they say don’t spread this amongst the general population, hide it, don’t give multiple opinions, only one”
In my past when I said things in that tone of voice and the person that angered me isn’t present, my anger dissipated. Then I would not have the same drive within myself to be as confrontational when I did meet them.
So my anger left my body but it didn’t get to the correct place. It only made me feel better temporarily but made things worse in the bigger picture.
I agree with him that the public should be given multiple opinions however.
Perhaps my wording for “private mistakes” makes sense now
But that concept of a Palestine had nothing to do with refugees or islam.
Palestine was just a place the british owned that muslims, jews and christians lived in
And I believe that’s what Israel should be
I do believe in the existence of A jewish state be that Israel or any other country because we need a place to go in case we find ourselves in exile again
Jews make up 0.1% of the population and many of us including myself have been subjected to attempted hate crimes or actual hate crines.
It happens to muslims in the western world as well but there is a very vocal portion of society that will stand up and fight against this when it happens
When it happens to jewish college students being locked out of their dorm rooms, beaten up in public hallways… when anti semites storm my university (and my brothers university) which happens regularly… my brother was almost beaten up AGAIN just a few weeks ago for being openly jewish on campus
The university doesn’t stand up and condemn it. So when I think about what this kind of stuff has led to in the past time and time again it makes me think “ok… we need a jewish state. I don’t care where it is but we need one.”
Why can’t Israel be Israel and Palestine be Palestine? Draw up definitive borders… make certain areas “shared territory” like Jerusalem and give the temple mount to Muslims… which we have already come close to doing
There are eight entrances to temple mount for muslims to freely go through. One entrance exists for non muslims and you have to go through a bazillion checkpoints.
Al Aqsa is off limits to non muslims. I don’t see why non muslims would want to attend.
In a perfect world we would get rid of the settlements, draw clear borders… punish any violence extremely harshly… Palestinian government would spend more on hospitals, schools, infrastructure and opening job opportunities for Palestinians
Back before Oct 7 I spoke to a few Palestinians who worked in Jerusalem because they made far more money working in Israel. Some of them legitimatelt wanted the wars to be over
They said what I said which was “two state solution”
That’s what I want… or one state but no integration of religion and state… punish religiously motivated violence akin to the way Venezuala put just about every gang member involved with violence in prison for like 100 years.
I am going to go out on a short limb and bet no one asked her what she wanted (not that she would know, since children’s brains lack the capacity for sound logical thinking). Also, could she have said anything negative without being executed? Again, doubtful considering Islamic countries have very recently still practiced stoning. And even today “no one” is allowed to speak out against Mohammed (LOL)
From May of this year:
It’s all a crock to think any of the Abrahamic religions are a) original b) the only possible truth c) that by following them it is inherently the best way to live one’s life.
She was a child. 4 years old? 5? Even 9? That’s a child. No matter the country, no matter the legal marriage age, no matter the maturity of an individual, that’s a child. To try to make it mean something else is defending pedophilia.
It has nothing to do with Islam as a whole. I don’t know enough about the religion to comment on it. It’s the fact that your prophet was a pedophile.
Ignoring the age for moment (which is stupidly hard to do)…
Anybody making the quoted statement knows nothing about women and what they actually care about.
Back to reality.
Also, yeah sure, she was on cloud 9 while he was forcing himself on her. That makes total sense (that’s sarcasm in case that was unclear). I bet that young girl cursed your prophet and “god” in secret.
That comment didn’t even make sense. It might’ve, if he’d been talking to a teenage girl in 2013. Justin Bieber as a person and his fanbase are completely different now. It sounds like someone who has no clue what people like, let alone women.
“Uh…little girls like pop stars, right?” - squating_bear while trying to defend pedophiles.
