Watch how Jesus answered the Sadducees:
Matt 22:29, “Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.”
Who is correct: Jesus or whoever says that there is marriage in heaven?
Here we go with the talking in circles.
Cool. I don’t see how that relates to my question. I was asking your understanding of the Bible verse you had quoted me. I did so after sharing my own quick interpretation
Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven
Neither phrase rings a bell for me on any Islamic concept. I recall no resemblance
Part of the Islamic Testimony of Faith is to bear witness that Muhammad (saw) is the Slave of Allah
Slave can be considered opposite of King. One of God’s Names is The King. That is one of His Names and His Attributes, there is nothing a human can do to change, increase or decrease within that.
Abdullah means Slave of Allah
Abdul-Karim means Slave of The Generous (Karim/Generous being one of Gods Names)
Abdul-Haqq means Slave of The Truth
Abdul___(insert God’s Name Here) in general means Slave of God with an emphasis on one of God’s Attributes
Islam is not about establishing any Kingdom on Earth.
One of the themes of the Quran is establishing justice on Earth.
I can see some resemblance with establishing a Kingdom vs a Khalifa, government, justice - but it requires a little effort, and there are big differences
Insofar as you sense a need to read Kingdom of God and/or Kingdom of Heaven onto Islam I would wonder about the similarities and differences between them
I would venture a guess that Kingdom of God relates to the doctrine of Christ’s 1st Coming
I would venture a guess that Kingdom of Heaven relates to the doctrine of Christ’s 2nd Coming
Is that wrong?
It occurs to me that a Kingdom of Heaven could be built upon and aligned with a Kingdom of God rather than being an opposite
It occurs to me that a just and proper Jihad could be built upon and aligned with firmness of faith rather than being an opposite
What’s that look like? More headless corpses and sex slaves?
Sigh
Maybe both.
I must regrettably inform you that your style and line of reasoning, argumentation, questioning, resembles the Sadducees which you’ve quoted. I think you can and should do more to avoid that. I also willingly take a portion of the responsibility for seeing it that way
To my understanding, all are resurrected while not all are for heaven.
Heaven =/= Resurrection
And if I recall correctly, there is a Bible quote that says that Jesus (as) literally is the Resurrection.
In the parable you’ve quoted, it can be seen that the Sadducees perhaps attempted to mock Jesus (as) as well as the 7 brothers + wife which they described.
The response of Jesus (as) can be seen as an honor to the 7 brothers + wife, and a just and proper dishonor to the Sadducees and
it could be understood that those 7 brothers + wife did live inside Jesus (as) in the moment that Jesus (as) was speaking, as the angels live in heaven
It may well have not been a statement about the future at all
30 For in Jesus (as) they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.”
It occurs to me for the first time that maybe this relates to celibacy of Catholic nuns and priests
A total waste of your time typing that. As a Bible believing Christian I firmly, unapologetically say: God said it. That settles it, whether you believe it or not.
BTW, Jesus is God. Jesus is the Creator (Colossians chapter 1)
It has nothing to do with it.
That’s fine - I’m not married to the idea - but you don’t seriously expect me to take your word for it?
The portion you quoted specifically, or the entire post in answering your question?
I don’t really care as the truth doesn’t rely on your belief in it. You’re also a satan worshiper so the truth is poison to you.
Your understanding is wrong. Apart from Jesus there is no resurrection. Jesus is God.
John 11:24, “Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.”
The notion that I cannot boldly stand up for Jesus, because you don’t like how it sounds.
Your most recent Bible quote doesn’t say that
Oh, you misinterpreted my intent
In context with the entirety of the Bible it surely does. Jesus is God.
Without God how is a resurrection possible?
That was an actual recorded event, not a parable.
Look up the meaning of “vengeance”. It is a retaliation for a perceived wrong. This is not to be exercised by a Christian. Vengeance is for God to do.
I was hoping you would say something like that.
I can respect that.
I can respect you.
There - better now?
I was just saying that I saw something that I think you should work on. You can trash it as it seems you did, or you can work on it while boldly standing up for Jesus (as) at the same time
You can have a belief system and worldview that are entirely internally logically consistent while another person such as maybe myself can do the exact same thing in a very different way
I never said your beliefs are logically inconsistent
Defending your beliefs are not the same as attacking mine
I’ve watched Jurassic Park, mosquitos, blood, hardened sap, cloning come to mind. Yeah I notice differences as well.
It’s a silly question, you get a silly answer. Sorry.
I believe in God and a resurrection, so your question is a bit of a non-sequitur to me
I don’t think you’re being honest. I wonder why?
I no longer wonder.
But maybe you should
If you literally can’t, then hey, I’d say you and me both share a part of the blame