Bingo! Now you are on to something.
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doesn’t HAVE to advertise junk food all the time.
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That’s why I referred to it as late-stage capitalism.
Not the U.S. That would be interfering with choice.
It was likely around 35 or maybe 40. Lower if you include infant mortality rates.
The truth is we have no comprehensive epidemiological records from the ancient world
Epidemiology didn’t really exist and even if it did so much in the way of information has been lost to time…
However we look at the conditions of pre-modern society coupled with historical data we can take a guess… Thankfully relatively similar living conditions were omnipresent in most of these societies.
Lack of food was a common demoninator whenever weather became extreme, disease was a common issue, as was infection due to poor hygiene and lack of understanding behind wound sanitation, war was an issue.
One can create epidemiological models based on literary anecdote, human remains + societal conditions + events at any given time like wars, disease, food availability, migration, internal religion based conflict etc.
However these models are often corrupted by infant mortality rates which as you’ve mentioned are extremely high (as are child and adolescent mortality rates esp in times of war).
If people survived their most vulnerable years (which would be the first 20-25 years after which you were probably less likely to be used in war) it appears as if living til what we today would call middle age or earlier senior age was feasible. Those who didn’t succumb to disease, infection, starvation, war, natural disasters etc often lived until 50-60… But this was unlikely. Even if you survived infancy I don’t believe the AVERAGE guy lived til 60 or older.
It certainly happened. Some even lived til 90+ (top tier genetics). But back then all it took was drinking tainted water, getting a cut that got infected etc. The most vulnerable years were the infant years… But after that it was a huge ordeal to survive childhood, adolescence AND early adulthood.
So I concede you are right in that people were capable of living till old age back then. However conditions back then were not conducive for living a long life.
I’m sure cavemen also lived until their sixties if environmental contraints, natural disasters, famine, conflict etc didn’t take them out. But how many cavemen died hunting animals, fighting other humans, from disease, infection, starvation and more?
During the last glacial period I’m sure the life expectancy dipped very low as humans would have struggled to adapt. Men and women from that era 10,000 years ago when the average global temperature was around 32 degrees farenheight didn’t live very long. If they beat the odds they probably had a decent lifespan… But how many beat the odds?
The infant mortality rates and child/adolescent mortality rates do matter. If the average life expectancy during the second world war in Bosnia dropped to 26. If you beat the odds you’d live til 60-70 or so.
But how many beat the odds? Doesn’t it matter if most didn’t beat those odds? The life expectancy equates to average age of death. If 70% of the population dies before 40 and 30% make it to 60-80 is it the norm to make it to old age?
Oh you mean like the Zionists have been doing to the Palestinians for decades?
Sounds like the genocidal Zionists.
Merica might be obese but Merica has most muscle mass too.
The only people who can be great in the weight world in a communist country are the chosen ones, if you ain’t chosen good luck trying to be jacked stacked juicy and succulent, you have to be working for the dictator for that.
In Merica you can be a bum and still be jacked!
BTW, Boe wants you to eat more cookies and chips. T wants you to eat hot dogs and cheeseburgers.
The Sheep: Gubmit, please tell us how to eat??? We can’t figure that one out.
Palestinians aren’t humans so you’re wrong.
You must be the exception.
I’ve worked every single day of my life, I started in a small screen print shop doing the suckiest type of work mixing the ink extender plus all kinds of other rigged things for 10-12 hours a day plus almost 20hours on Friday nights.
Very hard to get jacked up on that schedule.
But at least back then it was damn easy to get a job. All you had to do was “want to work”.
@zecarlo when are you going to post a picture of yourself with a cape on?
I want to see if you look as jacked as El Campion!
These were also the days I followed FLEX mag. High protein low carbs, no DAVES bread.
No wonder I didn’t get jacked back then.
I was lean, but not big strong dense.
I ate steak and chicken every 2.5 hours.
Unlike you, I’m not telling people I’m jacked and as strong as Brian Shaw or whatever.
What’s your excuse now?
When did I say this?
I’m a 5’9” munchkin, which I’ve stated before.
Shaw is something like 6’8.
I post info for the other munchkins and chicken littles like me.
There’s lots of us…….
I get a little more jacked everyday now.
The system used you up for sure.
If one has to work that many hours in a week just to afford necessities, something is broken.
That was my choice to do that, I wasn’t into education.
I only got an education because I lost those jobs.
I hate working on fracking computer screens, but maybe it’s a good thing because I’m ready to demolish the weights after being in meetings with pencil neck geeks all day.
I still have to work all the time though even with an education. The people who don’t are great BSers in life. I’m just a sucker, and I know I’m a sucker.
I just want a paycheck so I can lift weights and eat.
When I was a teenager I wanted a check so I could smoke pot. I was motivated to work so I could party. That’s what you call a functional pothead and drunk.
Now socialism is full of non motivated drug addicts and drunks.
But @zecarlo keeps dodging the whole, let’s see you in a cape picture???
I guess we will all be waiting a long time………
Yeah I was motivated to work to smoke pot, however pot destroyed all my ambitions.
I was playing geetar at age 11, that all stopped once I started smoking weed.
People who think getting high and musical talent are relative are fools.
I also started weight training at age 11. I got my weight set and geetar for Xmas, by age 14 that was finished, I was looking for the kind buds.
There you go.
You keep dodging the photo…,……
I wish you would.
Speaking of being obese, the only person in the country of Cheyenah obese is its leader.
Ain’t that fracking interesting……….