A Case For The Pull-up

what I notice that really transfer well to supinated grip and neutral grip chins is close grip chins (narrow than shoulder width). It gives the advantage of going very heavy so whenever you do it go very heavy. A good rep scheme I found was 3 reps for 8 sets sometimes 10 sets…

[quote]RJ24 wrote:
For anyone who has ever done towel chin ups, how do you find these transfer over to supinated grip or neutral grip chins?

I assume one would be able to use more weight on a bar than they could while hanging from a towel, but how much more?

I ask because I’ve been doing towel chin up for a while and would like a general idea of how much more weight I’d be able to lift on a straight bar without testing just yet. I can currently do 4 x 6 with 25 lbs (easily) at a bodyweight of over 205 lbs and can do a single with around 100 lbs.

Thanks.[/quote]

Thanks MT, but I work out in my garage and alternate between presses and towel chinups during my upper body workouts. Seeing as I only have one bar I’m kind of forced to use towel chins.

However, if I ever get the opportunity to do chins on a bar, I’ll remember that advice.

BTW, nice chinning numbers.

[quote]Mad Titan wrote:
A case for the pull-up:You are what you repeatedly do…

I read an article on here once. In it the author talked about the reason you shouldn’t do cable pull downs anymore. Ever since that day I switched from doing a half cables/ half pull-up routines to a routine of just strictly different variations of pull ups/ chin-ups making it up as I go.

I have never looked back Now everybody in my gym is doing pull-ups. I saw this old man who weighed 255 with a pot belly struggling to do 4 pull ups the other day…I was very very very IMPRESSED so I went over and congratulated him and gave him tips to increase his pull ups.

He told me conincidentally the reason he does it is because he always see me do it (I do pull ups 3-4 times a week) and now the trainers (bosu ball guys)at my gym started doing them now.[/quote]

MT,

You have put on some serious size since your last pics, what are you weighing now?

That back is definitely all that needs to be said for pullups/chin ups

After my neagatives the other day I noticed that my teres major was sore, but not lats. I do seem to have relatively over developed teres if I take a look in the mirror. Kinda got tits on my back.

Anyone else got back tits?

[quote]Andrew Dixon wrote:
After my neagatives the other day I noticed that my teres major was sore, but not lats. I do seem to have relatively over developed teres if I take a look in the mirror. Kinda got tits on my back.

Anyone else got back tits? [/quote]

I’ll bet you would be popular in prison. :slight_smile:

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Mad Titan wrote:
A case for the pull-up:You are what you repeatedly do…

I read an article on here once. In it the author talked about the reason you shouldn’t do cable pull downs anymore. Ever since that day I switched from doing a half cables/ half pull-up routines to a routine of just strictly different variations of pull ups/ chin-ups making it up as I go.

I have never looked back Now everybody in my gym is doing pull-ups. I saw this old man who weighed 255 with a pot belly struggling to do 4 pull ups the other day…I was very very very IMPRESSED so I went over and congratulated him and gave him tips to increase his pull ups.

He told me conincidentally the reason he does it is because he always see me do it (I do pull ups 3-4 times a week) and now the trainers (bosu ball guys)at my gym started doing them now.

MT,

You have put on some serious size since your last pics, what are you weighing now?

That back is definitely all that needs to be said for pullups/chin ups[/quote]

greekdawg…I really don’t know. I will weigh myself come around 1st week of august. I found out its better to just concentrate more on the training and nutrition…the weight will take care of it self…

[quote]Mad Titan wrote:

greekdawg…I really don’t know. I will weigh myself come around 1st week of august. I found out its better to just concentrate more on the training and nutrition…the weight will take care of it self…[/quote]

That’s a good attitude to have. Either way, I can definitely tell a difference from your previous pics. Nice work.

It’s funny how my skinny ass is the only one who does pullups at the gym I go to. Everyone’s got a dumbell in there hand.

Same with deadlifts. No one does them. I told my friend, it’s the single best exercise. He won’t do them because he says it’s too much work, and sticks to odd machine movements. I guess he joined the gym to pretend to workout.

I did see some HS kid doing squats tonight though.

Great thread.

One question: Do pullups counteract the problem of too much benchpressing?

Its a pulling movement but if I remember correctly the lats are an internal rotator as well - is this something to keep in mind as far as shoulder health?

(Ok that was two questions)

I have been only(no other workouts)doing 3-4 sets of 10 every day for the past 4 months but I’ve been getting really bad chest pains, the center of my chest and right below my collar bones crack every day. it feels like a lot of tension.

Can anybody tell me whats going on? Am i arching my back too much when I’m doing a pull-up?

the best way to train for pullups is to do curls in the squat rack…

…lots of em

depending what kind of grip, i can do anywhere from 6-10 at about 250lbs of bodyweight. i can throw a 25-30lb chain on my neck and do 2-4.

[quote]d-dub wrote:
Great thread.

One question: Do pullups counteract the problem of too much benchpressing?

Its a pulling movement but if I remember correctly the lats are an internal rotator as well - is this something to keep in mind as far as shoulder health?

(Ok that was two questions)[/quote]

I don’t do pullups anymore because of the internal rotation component. I had my right labrum torn in a car accident in 8/05 and I avoid certain motions such as the pullup.

And no, it won’t help balancing the bench press motion out. You need external rotation work combined with scapular retraction work such as rows, seated dumbell, supported and such.

[quote]tom63 wrote:

I don’t do pullups anymore because of the internal rotation component. I had my right labrum torn in a car accident in 8/05 and I avoid certain motions such as the pullup.

And no, it won’t help balancing the bench press motion out. You need external rotation work combined with scapular retraction work such as rows, seated dumbell, supported and such.

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i tore both my left and right labrum and pull-ups don’t give me any problem did you have surgery to fix the tear or just do re-hab?