How does Frank Yang eat 8,000 calories?
Apparently not by cooking a single meal for himself
Btw, whats your food budget?
Haha mine? I barely spend 50 dollars a week, which for my area is quite cheap. Milk, frozen chicken breasts, eggs, and lean hamburger.
am i the only one who wishes he could eat like thatâŠeven for just a month.
entertaining video for sure, good luck on the bulk.
and since when does low calories = longevity. take that shit to bb.com
I really need to recruit the services of a maid. Here Iâve been, making my own protein shakes like a sucker!!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]vali wrote:
Haha that picture is two years old. Iâm training to be a powerlifter, not a physique athlete, but one thing I have learned in my training is that I need to eat at least 4,000 calories a day to gain any significant mass.
Iâm 6 ft 0" at about 220, with a fair amount of body fat. I plan to cut some weight once I get my BW over 230 to be more competitive in my weight class.
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You arenât alone. Especially in college, 3,000cals would have caused a loss in weight.
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Iâm starting to lean out at about 3500 cals or more. I get almost 2500 in steak alone during the day not counting liberal amounts of olive oil on salads, protein shakes, potatoes/rice, pb, etc. A few more hundred cals and Iâm in âmaintenanceâ. I need at least a few more hundred to start gaining slowly, letâs call that in the 4000âs. If I was really wanting to drop the hammer, I could easily be in 5000âs.
Some people on these forums have absolutely nothing positive to say about anyone or anything.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Some people on these forums have absolutely nothing positive to say about anyone or anything.
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Itâs because when youâre in your early 20âs thereâs nothing you donât know.
Including the âproperâ way to bulk. For everyone.[/quote]
I have a different theory about fundamentally being wired as a so-and-so and mired in self-loathing, but Iâll keep that theory to myself.
This approach would work, sure, but it seems much more sensible to try and push your weight/muscle mass up slower especially as a natty.
If you gain too much fat, you scale back? How about not gaining too much fat in the first place that you would just have to strip off?
But, as with everything BBing related, itâs your body and it also totally depends on your level of development.
Scale weight =/= muscle mass
Aside from if its unhealthy or not, the thing that impressed me was this guy is probably eating like this most days and anyone that has ate 6000 calories a day can aggree that it is damn hard work!! You have to be very determined to do that.
Is it too much for him? hes a smart guy hel figure it out if it is.
I dont really see anything wrong with the anti-force feeding arguement anymore, I used to and yes I wouldnt of been 250 lbs if i didnt force feed a bit, but I dont see that as much of an accomplishment when I still need to be 220- to look like someone who really takes good care of themself. I was 252lbs in my avatar btw so it wasnt like i was obese. Force feeding for periods of time can be good, I mostly only did it for strength though. If i had been focusing on bodybuilding the whole time I wouldnt have to the extent I did. In the end I would of been where I am right now following either path, but the path that I chose, where I could eat whatever I wanted whenever was deffinitely more enjoyable so what in the end there isnt a whole lot of harm done, at least in my case.
just my .02
ebomb, blackaggar - Personally I donât disagree with your last posts, but in the case where you know you can drop fat relatively easy, I donât see anything wrong with pushing it. I think anytime PX or anyone has suggested that one should eat big and deal with fat later was for âthe fastest route to sizeâ.
I donât think anyone can assume that if you get to a certain weight, hold it for months, then start cutting back that youâre going to lose all your gains. That always seems to be the response.
Personally, not being single digit lean doesnât bother me one bit. My goal is size and lift numbers, so eating enough to grow and get my numbers is a means to an end. That doesnât mean getting obese* but knowing when to put on the breaks for awhile.
- Yes, according to the manorexics on T-Nation I am obese. I am ok with that. I got a âholy shit shouldersâ comment from the female fitness trainer at my deep tissue session. Iâll take that comment every time over âI love your extra medium shirtâ.
Edit-typo âFastest route, not fastedâ
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
ebomb, blackaggar - Personally I donât disagree with your last posts, but in the case where you know you can drop fat relatively easy, I donât see anything wrong with pushing it. I think anytime PX or anyone has suggested that one should eat big and deal with fat later was for âthe fasted route to sizeâ.
I donât think anyone can assume that if you get to a certain weight, hold it for months, then start cutting back that youâre going to lose all your gains. That always seems to be the response.
Personally, not being single digit lean doesnât bother me one bit. My goal is size and lift numbers, so eating enough to grow and get my numbers is a means to an end. That doesnât mean getting obese* but knowing when to put on the breaks for awhile.
- Yes, according to the manorexics on T-Nation I am obese. I am ok with that. I got a âholy shit shouldersâ comment from the female fitness trainer at my deep tissue session. Iâll take that comment every time over âI love your extra medium shirtâ.[/quote]
Yep. I agree with that.
It comes down to goals and personal preference really.
if zack khan said there is no need of ever going over 5k calories bulk or notâŠenuff said
px disciples eating junk and fooling themselves
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I got a âholy shit shouldersâ comment from the female fitness trainer at my deep tissue session. Iâll take that comment every time over âI love your extra medium shirtâ.
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butâŠbutâŠbutâŠall the men on T-Nation dont find you impressive! isnt the opinion of people on the interwebs more important to your own personal goals than what females in real life think?
lol
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
if zack khan said there is no need of ever going over 5k calories bulk or notâŠenuff said
px disciples eating junk and fooling themselves[/quote]
if zack khan told you to eat monkey balls and hang upside down like a bat because you would add 20lbs of lean muscleâŠwould you believe him?
stop doing what people tell you to do and start figuring out shit for yourself, holy shit. this whole fucking site is turning into a âhe said to do thisâ, so i ignore any common sense and do as others tell me do to, instead of thinking for my own fucking self.
[quote]ronald1919 wrote:
if zack khan said there is no need of ever going over 5k calories bulk or notâŠenuff said
px disciples eating junk and fooling themselves[/quote]
- Are you trying to achieve Zakk Khanâs size?
If so,
- Howâs that workinâ for ya?
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I got a âholy shit shouldersâ comment from the female fitness trainer at my deep tissue session. Iâll take that comment every time over âI love your extra medium shirtâ.
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butâŠbutâŠbutâŠall the men on T-Nation dont find you impressive! isnt the opinion of people on the interwebs more important to your own personal goals than what females in real life think?
lol[/quote]
My tears of sadness are falling onto my ribeye⊠Mmmmm, salty.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I got a âholy shit shouldersâ comment from the female fitness trainer at my deep tissue session. Iâll take that comment every time over âI love your extra medium shirtâ.
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butâŠbutâŠbutâŠall the men on T-Nation dont find you impressive! isnt the opinion of people on the interwebs more important to your own personal goals than what females in real life think?
lol[/quote]
My tears of sadness are falling onto my ribeye⊠Mmmmm, salty.[/quote]
what do you do for those shoulders by the way? theyre fucking massive.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
Eating 8,000 calories is expensive, time-consuming, & unhealthy.[/quote]
Could you go into detail about how â8,000â calories in itself is âunhealthyâ?[/quote]
Its about as unhealthy as thinking that keeping your virginity is a good thing
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]vali wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]vali wrote:
Youâre growing at 3000 calories a day? Jeez how much do you weigh? 165?[/quote]
I got old pics in my hub. Meanwhile all you have to show for you efforts is a âfuck you Dad!â hairstyle. What do you look like, vali?[/quote]
Haha that picture is two years old. Iâm training to be a powerlifter, not a physique athlete, but one thing I have learned in my training is that I need to eat at least 4,000 calories a day to gain any significant mass.
Iâm 6 ft 0" at about 220, with a fair amount of body fat. I plan to cut some weight once I get my BW over 230 to be more competitive in my weight class.
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Fair enoughâŠyou weigh 25 pounds more than me, so you would of course eat more. Why do you think you have âa fair amount of bodyfatâ? I would see that as a sign of eating too much.[/quote]
He also weighs 25lbs more than I do but at 4500 I cant gain weight. At 5000-6000 a day i barely gain weight. At 3500 I drop weight pretty dman fast.
And i feel bad for the people the gain weight with 3000cals. Might be easy on the wallet but my god dont you go hungry? My PWO meal is 2000 cals and its gone in 10min and i am starving shortly after.