there is a video out there of almost the exact same thing happening to Ed Coan, who is obviously a top and very experienced lifter. he also had many spotters with him at the time.
sometimes shit just happens. obviously, Coan didn’t let it stop him permanently either.
You dont want to know what I think right now noob but for right now, how about you just shut up and focus on lifting before you call someone a bitch.
[quote]evansmi wrote:
How about everyone stops there bitching and starts discussing what could have been done to prevent this. You know, be constructive.
Did he lack calf development to stabalize the weight?
Where his joints simply not strong enough?
perhaps if he had worn higher top shoes there would have been more ankle support?
Whaddaya all think?[/quote]
I was talking about those who were bitching about someone putting up this video. The “this is too scary, why did you poison my eyes with this video?” people. I wasn’t talking about you. Pretty sure you tryed to shut that same guy up, and I respect you for it.
Yes, I’m a newb, so I would greatly appreciate it if I could in someway learn something from this thread.
I’m just asking for people’s opinion about what caused the accident.
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
You dont want to know what I think right now noob but for right now, how about you just shut up and focus on lifting before you call someone a bitch.
evansmi wrote:
How about everyone stops there bitching and starts discussing what could have been done to prevent this. You know, be constructive.
Did he lack calf development to stabalize the weight?
Where his joints simply not strong enough?
perhaps if he had worn higher top shoes there would have been more ankle support?
Whaddaya all think?
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This is an horrific thing to see for anyone who lifts, however, it may be an important thing to see as well.
It should remind everyone the importance of safety devices and good practice. Especially for what (I assume was) max effort.
Could have taken out spotters leg as well if there was one behind him, I’d hate to spot 800 lbs coming right off on me.
I couldn’t listen to the audio (too disturbing especially with the repeated flashbacks) so I don’t know the whole story.
I don’t think it was wise walking that weight out.
Or doing it without safety bars of some kind
If you can bother setting up a camera you should bother with all the safety gear especially for those weights
But I guess we don’t all do that all the time, and it could happen to any of us.
If anything this is making me be even more careful in future.
I’ve done my share of stupid things and had my share of injuries and this video just reminds me of them and gives me the heebie jeebies
Beginners should learn from this the importance of DOING SQUATS, not avoiding them, and doing them safely. Building a good foundation of strength with full squats is important. Machines are not as good.
Anyone who is training can have the same accident. Like someone said earlier in this thread, shit happens. Especially when you are really pushing the limits. It is a risk you take. The only thing you can do is perform at the highest level you can, but also the safest. If you aren’t man enough to accept the fact you might get injured, maybe you are better suited for chess. Living in fear is not a good way to live life.
I don’t mean to sound like a cold bastard because what happened to him is horrible. I hate to see anyone get injured because I have had my fair share of injuries.
[quote]evansmi wrote:
How about everyone stops there bitching and starts discussing what could have been done to prevent this. You know, be constructive.
Did he lack calf development to stabalize the weight?
Where his joints simply not strong enough?
perhaps if he had worn higher top shoes there would have been more ankle support?
Whaddaya all think?[/quote]
If he wore non heeled shoes, he may have been much better off. If you look at it again, he catches his heel of his boot, and then it all just goes from there.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
If he wore non heeled shoes, he may have been much better off. If you look at it again, he catches his heel of his boot, and then it all just goes from there.[/quote]
I think there are many things beginners (?) need to be aware of that perhaps they are not aware of. I am not keen on the idea of youtube videos (not necessarily this one) showing bad form, bad practices, etc… and giving people silly ideas. But what can you do? At least on this site the errors should be pointed out.
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
What a horseshit thing to post.
800# Squat Attempt Crushes Powerlifter.
How about powerlifter walks out a weight and gets injured.
Fuck. This is a guy who had something happen we all keep out of our mind (PL’s) and some fucking douche bag posts it here for sport.
Why do you think push pulls (WABDL) are such a big deal. Fuckers are too scared to squat.
Too many pussies on this site who never put it on the line who want to criticize.
Fuck all you guys. [/quote]
WTF? You didn’t have to hit the link. It was pretty clear what it was.
dude that took MAJOR STONES!!.. i can move some serious weight…never tried 8-hundred pound squat…an injury like that would keep me out of work for weeks…GOD i hope you’re feeling better…
Ok guys, this is REALLY fucking simple.
If you want to prevent accidents like this then wrap yourself up in cotton wool and don’t attempt max lifts.
As APW said, Squats are very bloody scary and a whole world of shit can rain down on your in approximately 1 second.
There is absolutely nothing he could have done to prevent it. Spotters woulda done nothing, it happend too quickly. A power rack with pins would done nothing, the damage was done before the weight got to where the pins would have been set.
We know the risks we’re taking everytime we step under the bar. If you don’t want to risk injuries like that then take 100lb off the bar and stay the fuck out of the way because powerlifting takes balls.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
If he wore non heeled shoes, he may have been much better off. If you look at it again, he catches his heel of his boot, and then it all just goes from there.
I think there are many things beginners (?) need to be aware of that perhaps they are not aware of. I am not keen on the idea of youtube videos (not necessarily this one) showing bad form, bad practices, etc… and giving people silly ideas. But what can you do? At least on this site the errors should be pointed out.
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I sincerly hope you’re point out the error in the previous posters comment where he said the heeled shoes caused it???
Look at world championship IPF events. There’s guys walking out well in excess 900lb in heeled shoes.
Heeled boots didn’t cause it.
Wanna know what did? SHIT caused it.
SHIT happened. That’s life.
Well, Hanley, that sucks. Not gonna stop me from squatting as it feels too damn good, but thanks for explaining it to those of us who didn’t know.
If I put my legs out like Im going to do a wide stance squat I keep my knees out. If I dont focus on keeping my knees out they would buckle in. With 800lbs on your back you had better be focusing on keeping your shit together its not like your walking to your mail box.
Not even gonna watch it. Tuesday is squat day, and I can’t fuckin wait!
I think the difference people here aren’t getting is that when you are really training, and I mean pushing the body past what it should normally do, injuries will eventually happen no matter the technique or safety precautions taken. Anyone who disagree’s has not trained in that “Shit can happen at any second” zone.
I’ve squatted an easy 775 in a meet and I’ll be attempting over 800 for the next one. Injuries are part of the game. I’ve had my share of bad ones.
When I see a dumbass comment like “it wasn’t wise to walk that weight out”, well on behalf of that lifter, fuck you. You don’t have a fucking clue what the sacrifice and hard as nails training it takes to do that stuff. It’s an extreme thing to do but fate favors the bold and it takes passion to make a life worth something. Passion is what drives us no matter the chance of injury to score that next big PR.
All too easy for the critic to point the faults when they haven’t done it or anything close to it.
sh!t happens.
Just glad he is on the mend.
Koing
The thread starter is a moron. That’s not -like- watching Scarred, it -is- Scarred. That’s pulled directly from the TV show. I watched it recently. I hope he recovered from that.
[quote]Jesse Snadden wrote:
I think the difference people here aren’t getting is that when you are really training, and I mean pushing the body past what it should normally do, injuries will eventually happen no matter the technique or safety precautions taken. Anyone who disagree’s has not trained in that “Shit can happen at any second” zone.
I’ve squatted an easy 775 in a meet and I’ll be attempting over 800 for the next one. Injuries are part of the game. I’ve had my share of bad ones.
When I see a dumbass comment like “it wasn’t wise to walk that weight out”, well on behalf of that lifter, fuck you. You don’t have a fucking clue what the sacrifice and hard as nails training it takes to do that stuff. It’s an extreme thing to do but fate favors the bold and it takes passion to make a life worth something. Passion is what drives us no matter the chance of injury to score that next big PR.
All too easy for the critic to point the faults when they haven’t done it or anything close to it.
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Post of the thread. We need more people with that mind-set around here posting regularly.
He could have just not lifted. Maybe he could have gone golfing instead.
For a board the claims to be for hardcore testosterone fuelled men, I just see people who can talk a lot but few who can walk back a big squat!