I know this might be out there but it might not be, in the last few years it seems like more and more less elite to be in the 500 and 600 club and a handful are hittin the 700 or around 7 bill raw bench. Just wondering what yalls opinions were on a 800 pound raw bench falling in the up coming decades or if the spike in the general population’s intrest of raw lifting accounts for more bigger dudes hangin up the bench shirt for some gangsta wraps.
I think it’ll happen someday. I’m sure long ago 5 and 600 benches were though to be impossible. Then 7. I think lower 800s is possible. But upper 8s and lower 9s+ no.
^ I agree with that. Genetic modifications would have to take or a genetic mutant. What I think will start happening here in the next few years is we might not see a huge increase in numbers like the storngest bench, deadlift, etc…but we will see smaller guys hitting higher numbers. Might see a 132er bench 400. Unless we come out with some stronger gear. Like tren concentrate or something.
If by concentrate you mean suspension its all ready out there.
[quote]Umbrata Fortis wrote:
^ I agree with that. Genetic modifications would have to take or a genetic mutant. What I think will start happening here in the next few years is we might not see a huge increase in numbers like the storngest bench, deadlift, etc…but we will see smaller guys hitting higher numbers. Might see a 132er bench 400. Unless we come out with some stronger gear. Like tren concentrate or something.[/quote]
I thought the record for the 132 lb class was already something like 392 anyway.
Edit: Rick Couch hit 410 at 132 (60kg) in 1993 and Mike Booker hit 392 as a 123 (56 kg) in 2004.
There’s a new tren blend I’m getting my hands il let u guys know how it goes and bench is something alot if bodybuilders do and they look great but they not strong strong like a power lifter strong man but see here’s the thing they don’t really do bench even where I work strong man day in day out never really seen them bench…so I ask and they said bench is useless in strong man as they do logs or incline side bar grips never never flat
I have a lot of confidence in Kirill Sarychev right now. He hit a clean-as-hell 719 at the Battle of Champions yesterday, leading me to suspect that he could have at least matched Spoto’s 722 if he wanted to. On top of that, he’s being coached by Boris Sheiko. Here’s a statement Sheiko made several hours ago on his Facebook page:
“Now I see many disputes if Sarychev is able to beat Eric Spotto’s record or not (327.5 kg). I want to say that Kirill and me are not interested in this record. Our goal for the next Battle of Champions is 330 kg. I’m sure he can do it, because for a heavyweight lifter Kirill is still young and his true man’s strength hasn’t come yet. When he is 30 years old Kirill will be able to lift incredible weights.”
800 is obviously quite a bit higher than the 719 he hit, but I think within several years we’ll be seeing him hit 750. With Sarychev, Spoto, and Hoornstra all pushing the envelope so much in the past year or two, I would be a little surprised if we didn’t see an 800 raw bench within 20-30 years, if not sooner.
[quote]OmniStyx wrote:
I have a lot of confidence in Kirill Sarychev right now. [/quote].
Yes. I think he will do it!
I’m kinda a nerd, so it’s kinda fun for me to look at it mathematically. Problem is, a lot of times records related to human limitations start looking asymptotic, but then someone pops the cherry and you get some linear progression in the records again. Even in bench press numbers, a mere 116 years ago the record was 363 pounds (I know, it was hardly a defined lift, let alone a recorded/competitive lift, but still) and then in the 50’s Doug Hepburn comes along at busts 400. Then 500. Then in '67, 600 falls, and in '96 700 falls. So we are at another asymptote looking pattern, but again, once someone busts 750 (Sarychev?), how far is 800?
Another good example is the mile run record. From the mid 1800’s to when the 4:00 barrier was broken, the progression could have been said to look pretty asymptotic at 4:00-4:05. Now it kinda looks at glance to be around 3:40 (current record 3:43). Who knows?
Personally I think barring disaster to our population, or our freedom to/interest in training the bench press, there’s no way 800 doesn’t drop. Might be a long wait though. I actually wouldn’t be surprised in the least is 900-1000+ happens eventually, although that’s most likely not my lifetime.
I recall a thread not too long ago (2 years or so) where someone thought Mendys 715 would never get touched.
^ that kinda what i was thinkin on the whole deal, because sure at this point in time 800 seems outlandish but wasnt to long ago it was 700 that was a crazy number as you’ve stated.
side thought: what if in the future this turns into a road to 800 pound bench thread, thatd be sick
[quote]mkral55 wrote:
I’m kinda a nerd, so it’s kinda fun for me to look at it mathematically.
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Yay, nerd life! That’s pretty similar to how I was thinking of the situation. Low 700s has been around for a while, but with at least three lifters (maybe more?) right at that threshold and all with plenty of lifting years left for potential poundage, I think we’re due for a push through where the record is now. Another two or three of those I think should be enough to get us to 800.