8 Weeks On / 8 Weeks Off Advice

42 yo
200
15% bf

10+ years training

I am looking into doing 2 back to back 8 weeks cycle, in other words:
cycle #01 = 8 weeks
PCT + no steroids for 8 weeks
repeat

reason being is that I want to gain faster and keep sides to a minimum

I have done 3, 12 week test E/500mg in the past and the results where good but not great

I am off for about 2 years

What I intent to do is:

week 1-8 = 150 mg test prop EOD
Week 1-8 = 50 mg Winny ED
week 1-8 = HCG .250 iu E3D
PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Week 19 repeat

Is the PCT enough?

Should Clomid be added?
I am tempted to go 100mg of winny daily.

Thanks

Why use winny if you are worried about sides? Do you have an AI on hand as well? Otherwise I don’t see a problem. (Note, not an expert just curious why you would use such a harsh oral).

[quote]johngalt191 wrote:
Why use winny if you are worried about sides? Do you have an AI on hand as well? Otherwise I don’t see a problem. (Note, not an expert just curious why you would use such a harsh oral).[/quote]
I do have Adex but not sure if I should use it
Why Winny?
It works, it is less counterfeited and I am not worried about my liver.

I would use test prop ED and instead of winstol i would use anavar, if money is not the poblem.

[quote]Big Gay AL wrote:
42 yo
200
15% bf

10+ years training

I am looking into doing 2 back to back 8 weeks cycle, in other words:
cycle #01 = 8 weeks
PCT + no steroids for 8 weeks
repeat

reason being is that I want to gain faster and keep sides to a minimum

I have done 3, 12 week test E/500mg in the past and the results where good but not great

I am off for about 2 years

What I intent to do is:

week 1-8 = 150 mg test prop EOD
Week 1-8 = 50 mg Winny ED
week 1-8 = HCG .250 iu E3D
PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Week 19 repeat

Is the PCT enough?

Should Clomid be added?
I am tempted to go 100mg of winny daily.

Thanks[/quote]

i have recently been kicking the idea of doing an 8 weeker, a brief “pseudo PCT,” and then another 8 weeker immediately after.

something like this: 8 weeks on, 2 week “PCT,” 8 weeks back on, then a real PCT…

i think this way, one could do a bulking cycle first, and then finish up with a cutting cycle. the PCT in between isn’t gonna really work the way it normally does, but it will help ya avoid the normal suppression that it seen on 16 week cycles…

but anyway, i agree that you should use the test prop daily vs EOD. as far as PCT, Nolva at 20mg/day should be good.

Some info on PCT below: