600lb Deadlift Possible for Everyone?

What about bench press for every guy doing deads their are 4 doing bench presses, hard.
How many 380 plus benchers are in gym, im not talking westside either.
Where being strong is optimal for survival prison, as a former guard , once you can pull 500 you are considered strong.
They have better diets than most free people, freetime and motivation yet you rarely saw or heard of 600 plus pulls, occasionally you heare about a 700 pound pull.
If you look at the skeleton of two men 5,9 one was 240 pound powerlifter, who pulled 650 . And the other was 180 sedentary lifestyle they will be same , with exception of some elbow knee distention.
This is why their are someotypes, once a got into strongman and needed to deadlift heavy my pull went from 545 to 675 in under year then it just stopped shitty form.
But i could run cross country from the age of 12 to early 20,s and some 14 year old Kenyan kid could come along and make me look foolish.
600lbs pull is elite my friend, but i have seen some atain is fairly easy.

Going to depend on the individual. For some, they’re gonna need to lose their abs and put on some weight. Others are gonna have to quit being so fat and ā€œfull houseā€ so that they can bring their feet in a little and get some decent leg drive. Some might have to commit blasphemy and use straps and touch and go. Others might have to quit bouncing the eccentrics and pull from a dead stop. Some might need to quit being so hardcore and start wearing a belt, others might need to actually start training their abs and quit relying on the belt or believing that ā€œdeadlifts ARE an ab exerciseā€. Some may need to actually start implementing assistance work and quit believing that 3x5 is enough to reach their max potential, others might need to quit doing 20 rep sets and start spending some time in the low rep ranges.

I know, for me, I was stuck at a 540 deadlift for years, and it was because I REFUSED to do what it took to get stronger. I listened to the internet too much, and believed that all deadlifts had to be deadstop, no straps, no belt, nothing over 5 reps, with no ab work, full ROM 100% of the time. Once I switched to ROM progression, touch and go, with straps, up to the 12 rep range and started hammering my abs, I blew past 600 all the way to 650, and I lost 17lbs in that time because I quit believing the ā€œlift big, eat bigā€ thing.

But what kind of mind set did you have , i would think you lifted with do or die discipline, as i had did you ever throw up before heavy pull.
If you had say a muscle head as a world leader, and you received rank by you strength levels, athletic feats, etc. Higher income job security rank for the strongest.
But the weaklings would have lower social status and income, hmm Hitler.
You would see guys training like their life depended on it as they would.
Yets see Gunther you just deadlifted 300kg benched 200 kg, had your 20th kill, you will be promoted to commander.

Actually, that’s another thing I had to start doing; I quit getting hypped up for my training and learned how to lift while calm.

Yeah ive been working on that one , getting better , but when ive been thinking about a lift for a week, and get to gym, and somebody is doing a four exercise circuit, and talking on phone between sets , i get very impatient.

I agree, he’s not an average untrained individual. But I hope @ActivitiesGuy doesn’t take offense when I say he’s not a strength prodigy either, and he wasn’t running what anyone in the beginner’s forum would call a ā€œproven strength programā€. He just attacked his deadlift methodically and hit a five plate pull in a pretty reasonable time frame while doing ā€œDeadlifts, Kettlebells and Yogaā€ stuff that appealed to him and worked well.

Of course he has the potential to pull 600. Get on 5/3/1 and chow down, see you in a year or two. Not that he should or should not, just that he could. That was my point. It is perfectly attainable for him.

I don’t think any healthy male lifter should pick up a barbell thinking a 600 pound pull is unattainable without drugs. It might be for some, but if you bust your ass, apply yourself and seek out methods that work, I doubt you’ll be that far off even if it stays out-of-reach.

Very broadly speaking I would say alternate between Westside/very heavy template and a moderate one off this site, alternate every 9-12 weeks. Tim Henriques and Dan John have loads of good content.
As Punisher said above, hammer your abs.

Go to bed really early, get in as much grass fed lean beef and top supps like Plazma as can afford etc

I don’t think this is true at all. It certainly wasn’t true for me.

I suppose I could DL 600. But why would I want to shave 100# off my max? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I managed deadlifting only once every 2 months.

I think it boils down to commitment to doing what is needed to pull that weight, and taking into account what your athletic goals are. I left high school with a 455 deadlift and started wrestling in college 4 for years and having a huge deadlift wasn’t as important as being able to make weight and have tremendous cardio. I manged to get to 500 a few times but it wasn’t until I transitioned to strongman that I could finally focus on doing what was needed to get to a 600lb pull, instead of worrying about making 197lbs. Finally pulled it back in october and I really think if people commit to it then thats a very achievable weight to hit.

Well squatting certainly feeds the deadlift but who really wants to wait like 2 months to deadlift lol :joy:

If I could never do it again, I would.

For me, it was mat pulls rather than squats that helped.

Just curious, why? Just hate the lift?

Hate is a strong word, but usually, if a lift is effective, I don’t enjoy it. Straining, blowing out blood vessels, pain, exhaustion, feeling my eyeballs swell and my vision go black, etc etc, are not enjoyable experiences for me. I do them because they get me bigger and stronger, but if I could do that by sitting on the couch, eating pizza and reading, I’d rather do that, haha.

This is true, the best part about being strong is doing with ease what normal people can’t or even struggle with.

I’m a total stimulus junky. I like those sensations and crave them. I go to the gym for the feeling and the rush as much or maybe even more than the results.

There’s that big rush right before and especially during the moments of greatest strain during the lift and then omg that crazy narcotic like endorphin dump after a hard lift.

Without applying some discipline, I’ll just grind myself down well beyond what I can recover from.

But I think that just goes with your point. That we all have to figure what’s going to work for us as individuals both psychologically and physically.

I’m with @T3hPwnisher on this.

I’m lifetime drug free, didn’t do much athletically for about 10 years after school but I pulled 600 lbs within three years of starting training to be strong. I think that 600-650 lbs mark is probably the upper end of what ā€˜anyone’ can do (probably similar for squat and bench press I’d guess that mark would be much wider, maybe 275-350 lbs), but if a healthy male makes the effort to find out what he needs to do to improve his deadlift and keeps doing it, he’ll get 600 lbs. For what it’s worth, I’m in the pull heavy less often, deadlift at most weekly and lose weight camp because that’s what has worked for me.

Really digging the conversation here.

Since my name has been invoked, I’ll weigh in at some point, but I’m still ā€œout of townā€ for the holidays and would prefer to be sitting on my couch, with my laptop and perhaps even a stiff drink, for maximum enjoyment!

I’m curious.

For those that have pulled 600 lbs, what was your weight when you did that? How much weight did you gain the quest for this?

I think a more valid or interesting question is ā€œcan everyone DL three times their body weight with proper training and focus?ā€ I don’t think so. My max is 385 lbs dead at 165 lbs. I don’t take any supplements or use straps. I don’t think I could get close to 495 lbs (3X my BW) naturally.