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Yes, when my arm is fully extended, there is still a pull in the elbow joint. I just learned to live with that and train around it as best as possible. I have difficulties with dips and DB Snatch sometimes, but overall it’s just a part of life now.

Just be careful and get it looked at if things don’t improve. I never had injuries until the last year or so, and I took that for granted. Living with aches and pains is not fun, but I am getting old so I guess that is what happens LOL.

diana, may I ask if you were told anything to avoid (other than not lift) in order to not aggravate things further?

I did try to work through it but that appeared to be making it much worse so with a couple of days rest, everything appears to be almost back to normal again.

I’ll post some more when I get home tonight from work.

man, I hope your elbow gets better…

I think I had a mild case of tennis elbow awhile back, but I think it was more from carrying my baby around like a little monkey all day(still do, lol)

But magically, the pain of not being to extend my elbow all the way just went away on its own as I worked through everything…

Hoping the same for you!!

[quote]MsM wrote:
diana, may I ask if you were told anything to avoid (other than not lift) in order to not aggravate things further?

I did try to work through it but that appeared to be making it much worse so with a couple of days rest, everything appears to be almost back to normal again.

I’ll post some more when I get home tonight from work. [/quote]

The elbow thing was my first injury ever and I didn’t do anything about it except for some rehab stretches that my coach recommended. That was a mistake.

For the rotator, I was smarter and went to a sports therapist. She didn’t tell me to stop lifting, just to use my head about it and avoid movements that caused discomfort. That coupled with treatment and a rehab band seemed to do the trick, I’m 95% ok now. Today I had to ice after training, but that’s it.
How are you doing?

Thanks for the info and the concern diana and MIM. The elbow/bicep is feeling much better now so I’ll just continue to monitor it and be careful not to aggravate it again.

I haven’t been doing a very good job at keeping up with this log for last week but I’ve been getting ready to leave for Cincinnati. Heading out to Bathurst today to fly out early tomorrow morning.

Looking forward to seeing Eric break some records - no pressure, Eric. Ha:)

Seriously, this will be a great few days. I’ll get to see everything I think I’ve ever wondered about powerlifting and more. I will be back at some point on Tuesday with stories and pictures.

Til then…

Have a great trip. Look forward to hearing about it.

Tell us how you like the Cincinnati chili.

Your first video, what your doing is sumo-deadlift. Either way works but your form is pretty off. Your back is rounding pretty badly, thats because your starting off with a rounded back when you initially lift the bar off the ground. Make sure your but is lower to the ground, you feel tension in your quads, hamstrings and butt. Also your shoulders should be just barely in front of the bar, and the bar should be resting on your shins. Make sure your back is flat and you have scapular contraction (pull your shoulders back as to engage the muscle in your back)

When you initially pull the bar off the ground, make SURE your back doesnt round and that your hips aren’t rising faster than your upper body. Otherise, you’ll end up having your ass in the air, and will pull the weight up with a rounded back.

As far as your squat:

The bar is in the correct position on your shoulders, just remember to put your hands as close to your shoulders on the bar as possible and pull your elbows back to contract your upper back muscles and create a makeshift “rack” from your traps and shoulders.

What your doing wrong is your stance is too close together for low-bar squatting. Pointy our toes out at 30 degree angles and make your stance wider than shoulder width. You should be able to go much lower this way. Make sure your feeling the weight on your HEELS NOT your toes. Same when you press up, press of your heels.

I don’t see any imediate mistakes with the bench press, just get some more practice.

Also, TONS of information on squat / deadlift form and also probably the best novice strenght/mass program on earth:

Although it may seem tailored for a guy, it works great for a female with good diet.

startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

[quote]kensai01 wrote:

Also, TONS of information on squat / deadlift form and also probably the best novice strenght/mass program on earth:

Although it may seem tailored for a guy, it works great for a female with good diet.

startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

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Why are you going into everyone’s thread hawking Rippetoe’s program? Just wondering?

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
kensai01 wrote:

Also, TONS of information on squat / deadlift form and also probably the best novice strenght/mass program on earth:

Although it may seem tailored for a guy, it works great for a female with good diet.

startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

Why are you going into everyone’s thread hawking Rippetoe’s program? Just wondering?

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Yeah, did you buy stock in it or something?

I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

[quote]kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

[/quote]

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.[/quote]

If she’s working with a coach, why’s she posting video’s online to get advice; shouldn’t her coach teach her great form better than a forum can? Plus… somone who has to ask about squat/deadlift form is deffinatly a novice. ( I consider myself a novice too, its nothing negative to be a novice ) I think that your understanding of novice is different from mine. In my book you stop being a novice lifter once you stop being able to make linear gains from workout to workout in your main lifts; once you enter the realm of periodization.

In reality, the best gains are made while your a novice and I hope to stay this way for a long time. Most people jump to more advanced workouts far too soon and don’t take full advantage of their bodies ability to utilize linear gains in the beginning. I don’t plan on switching from SS untill I can’t make any more linear gains and have reset a few times. Hopefully it’ll take me another few months to totally reach my limit of linear gains.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.[/quote]

If she’s working with a coach, why’s she posting video’s online to get advice; shouldn’t her coach teach her great form better than a forum can? Plus… somone who has to ask about squat/deadlift form is deffinatly a novice. ( I consider myself a novice too, its nothing negative to be a novice ) I think that your understanding of novice is different from mine. In my book you stop being a novice lifter once you stop being able to make linear gains from workout to workout in your main lifts; once you enter the realm of periodization.

In reality, the best gains are made while your a novice and I hope to stay this way for a long time. Most people jump to more advanced workouts far too soon and don’t take full advantage of their bodies ability to utilize linear gains in the beginning. I don’t plan on switching from SS untill I can’t make any more linear gains and have reset a few times. Hopefully it’ll take me another few months to totally reach my limit of linear gains.

[quote]kensai01 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.

If she’s working with a coach, why’s she posting video’s online to get advice; shouldn’t her coach teach her great form better than a forum can? Plus… somone who has to ask about squat/deadlift form is deffinatly a novice. ( I consider myself a novice too, its nothing negative to be a novice ) I think that your understanding of novice is different from mine. In my book you stop being a novice lifter once you stop being able to make linear gains from workout to workout in your main lifts; once you enter the realm of periodization.

In reality, the best gains are made while your a novice and I hope to stay this way for a long time. Most people jump to more advanced workouts far too soon and don’t take full advantage of their bodies ability to utilize linear gains in the beginning. I don’t plan on switching from SS untill I can’t make any more linear gains and have reset a few times. Hopefully it’ll take me another few months to totally reach my limit of linear gains.

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First off, MsM, I apologize for hijacking your thread when I could use my own since he posted the same advice there. But, I agree with Vader. Sure, we may all be ‘novices’, but given we all have different goals there is no way one program fits all. Additionally, Kensai, read through the logs, or, at least the last few pages to figure out where we are today, not where we were months ago if you really want to help.

[quote]kensai01 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.

If she’s working with a coach, why’s she posting video’s online to get advice; shouldn’t her coach teach her great form better than a forum can? Plus… somone who has to ask about squat/deadlift form is deffinatly a novice. ( I consider myself a novice too, its nothing negative to be a novice ) I think that your understanding of novice is different from mine. In my book you stop being a novice lifter once you stop being able to make linear gains from workout to workout in your main lifts; once you enter the realm of periodization.

In reality, the best gains are made while your a novice and I hope to stay this way for a long time. Most people jump to more advanced workouts far too soon and don’t take full advantage of their bodies ability to utilize linear gains in the beginning. I don’t plan on switching from SS untill I can’t make any more linear gains and have reset a few times. Hopefully it’ll take me another few months to totally reach my limit of linear gains.

[/quote]

If you consider yourself a novice then why are you giving people advice?

If you are a novice shouldn’t you be asking rather than telling?

[quote]kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

[/quote]

No one asked you in this thread, you offered.
It may have not have occurred to you, but Susan posts her vids for her coach to review. Certainly other people may comment, but they do so knowing the history of the thread.
Being bored at work is a lame excuse, BTW.

Don’t mess with MsM! Classiest person on T-Nation.

Form critique from strangers based on youtube videos are worth about the price paid for them. The angles are too weird and the picture too small.

I find myself warm for her form. (Being the classy guy I am).

As the classy guy I am…I am so turned on by this thread in general.

[quote]Court wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
kensai01 wrote:
I just believe in its efficiency. It really works better than anything I’ve seen at putting muscle mass / gaining strenght for a novice. I mean I could have posted other workouts but SS was pretty much up everyone that posted’s alley. Nobody so far asked about anything that would need my post to be different.

Plus im bored at work, leave me be Im just trying to help people.

Yeah, but the thing you’ve apparently missed is that MsM isn’t a novice here. She already has a program and is working with a coach.

If you’re just trying to help, that’s fine, but you should probably read the rest of the thread before you just regurgitate stuff from Starting Strength.

If she’s working with a coach, why’s she posting video’s online to get advice; shouldn’t her coach teach her great form better than a forum can? Plus… somone who has to ask about squat/deadlift form is deffinatly a novice.

(I consider myself a novice too, its nothing negative to be a novice ) I think that your understanding of novice is different from mine. In my book you stop being a novice lifter once you stop being able to make linear gains from workout to workout in your main lifts; once you enter the realm of periodization.

In reality, the best gains are made while your a novice and I hope to stay this way for a long time. Most people jump to more advanced workouts far too soon and don’t take full advantage of their bodies ability to utilize linear gains in the beginning.

I don’t plan on switching from SS untill I can’t make any more linear gains and have reset a few times. Hopefully it’ll take me another few months to totally reach my limit of linear gains.

First off, MsM, I apologize for hijacking your thread when I could use my own since he posted the same advice there. But, I agree with Vader. Sure, we may all be ‘novices’, but given we all have different goals there is no way one program fits all.

Additionally, Kensai, read through the logs, or, at least the last few pages to figure out where we are today, not where we were months ago if you really want to help.
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It’s obvious your getting upset, while this conversation could go on forever I’ll just stop here. Sorry I offended anyone with my banter.

Nah, I guess reading a few pages worth is good like Court said…

And before you suggest SS for me, I already AM doing it! :stuck_out_tongue: