Hi all, looking for some feedback from those who know more than myself..
Im a 50 year old guy, relatively fit, decent shape 82Kg/ 1m 80 with decent muscle mass, body fat of around 15-16% according to the Renpho scales.
Ive done Test years ago as a younger man with Dbol and remember being much stronger; for years had tried all test booster suppplements known to man then last year decided to give test another go as I felt low, test levels checked and were low against all scores I found on the internet, but my French Dr was insistent my levels were fine, I disagreed.
So began using Test E 250mg/1ml every 3 days as well as HCG 1000 IU twice a week although think I could use more.
I can only inject for 4 weeks at a time due to my work, oil and gas so cant bring the equipment needed with me on the job, so ācruiseā during this period with Androgel I source from a freind .
Anyway, first couple of months were amazing felt strong, really well hard on all the time, libido through the roof. That has seemed to tail right off and Im not feeling as great recently.
I have checked my bloods about 3 month in and they all came back great, test up to 1100ng/dl!. So I reduced the androgen during off time and stayed with test 250mg every 3 days.
I have since added enclomiphene to the mix after reading great things.
If anyone has any advice or comments on this schedule Im happoy to hear, want to know if im doing the right thing.
Bloods planned again in May once home, started this regime July last year so currently 9 months in.
Thanks for your input.
Youāre taking 500mg a week. Call it what it is. Not TRT. Your permablasting.
Ok, so too much..hence why Im not feeling as I did at the start??..
Whats a decent recommendation?
My recommendation is to get bloods and see where you are at which you say is next month.
Doing a what you doing is not healthy long term.
The prob is you started so high anything lower is gonna be a mindfuck for you.
If bloods are ok, drop to 125mg/ week, continue HCG and enclomiphene?
Feel good to be honest, training well no sides at all..sleep is unrealā¦
Just not that superhuman feeling from the first couple of months but your comments may expain that very well.
Youāre never gonna feel like you did when you started. 125 is a good starting place. Personally I would drop the hcg and clomid but thatās just me.
Ok thanks for your input, appreciate it. Out of interest, why would you drop the HCG and enclomiphene? everything ive read states they are great at kickstarting the bodies natural system with minimal to no sides..can only be a plus I was thinking? interested to hear your take.
Also of note, Im only injecting for 4 weeks periods and then 4 off due to work comittmentsā¦
Your on test. You have no natural production.
HCG can raise estrogen and if youāre not having painful nut atrophy there is no reason for it. Same with clomid. Youāre already on test. I need for it. You do you thatās just my opinion.
Noticed atrophy a couple of months in hence me looking for something to rebound my nuts, HCG does work, very noticeable. But again thanks for your comments.
PS: Alternatively I suppose I could drop the test, continue with natural test boost supps and HCG, enclomipheneā¦
Look at Test undeconate, might be useful for your schedule.
Hi, ok never heard of that. I chose test enanthate after some research because its well tolerated and from the literature has minimal sides if not abused.
Does your suggestion of TU become an addition to what im doing or instead of the test injections? Thanks for your input.
Use it instead of. Itās used for legitimate trt in the UK, brand name nebido over here, they run injections between 10-12 weeks on the NHS, which I gather isnāt ideal, but you could do one every 8 weeks, might work for you. Iāve never used it so this is not advice, just me talking about the option. I think from others reports that you have to give it 6 months for stable levels and to feel the best.
IĀ“āll look into it, cheers.
on that much test? that doesnāt track at all. was this during your ācruiseā portion then? what about the rest of the blood work?
what great things did you read about EnClo? why are you taking that while on cycle?
I donāt understand much of the point of this, maybe you can clarify some of it so it makes sense.
250mg/1ml test e was every 3-4 days so not quite twice a week but only for a 4 week period due to work on the other side; so that was blast period. At work ācruisedā using Androgel and natrual test boosters.
Added HCG into the mix as balls started to shrink, good results.
I read about enclomiphene, minimum sides, good for kickstarting the natural process and reducing estrogen etc so thought Iād add that in. This is only on the ācrusieā period, not with the test..
Advice is welcome here, im not a pro..just going from what Ive read and different threads, which sometimes give contradictory info in fairness.
As i mentioned initially felt amazing, then tailed off significantly. Dont feel like crap but kind of plateauād.
My aim is to feel good, keep the muscle I have, keep the libido up there and overall wellness, so advice is gratefully received. I work rotations so 4 on 4 off and I cant take any paraphenalia to work with me so this steers my cycle activity.