Figure 2 displays ALL (log-transformed) TT concentrations in the analysis sample vs . age
If you read the entire figure description and/or the text in the report, you may figure it out.
Can you distinguish between the dots and lines on the graph?
So look at all those dots above the clinical range!!
Again, we donāt care about the range. We care about symptom resolution. Go obsess with numbers, by all means. Iāll ensure people feel better and have improved health! You can continue to hide in the shadows!
Right so you realise you were wrong again.
And how many are at your level at your age? And you need to be at that level to feel normal? Sad.
Some of us care about long term health, not a short term buzz.
These are values from people in the early 1900sā¦ prior to pesticides, processed foods, hormone in food and water supply. This is the part you donāt get. Men today have androgen resistance because of this. Their serum levels become IRRELEVANT. I sure as hell donāt get a ābuzzā with my total T slightly over 1000 for crissakes. Are you really that ignorant or really that much of a troll?? The only reason I posted this graph was to show the decline over the years that continues to get worse. This is the part you canāt grasp. This is the part you lack intellect to understand. Let the big boys talk now and go play in your sandbox. Better yet, post your photo, social media, and contact info so we can all have a good look at who we are talking to, coward.
@lenono, switching gears for a minute, what do you suggest as an alternate solution for those that are dialed into the appropriate age range testosterone level but are still experiencing symptoms that negatively impact quality of life?
The previous āsolutionā was a bodybuilding-style āstackā of (1) testosterone injections, (2) HCG (even when not trying to conceive), and (3) aromatase inhibitors (despite risks associated with artificially lowering estrogen). This āstackā is NOT the TRT protocol for endocrinologists (to my understanding) AND also carries risks. Iām not suggesting you ever argued this alternative, but do you have any better ideas?
@dbossa seems to be finding some success out there anecdotally, and while I agree there could be risks to his protocol, we donāt have adequate studies at this time to assess those risks. Anecdotally, we also know there are bodybuilders out there on way higher doses and they are not dropping dead all over the place.
@hercules987 It has nothing to do with āmy successā. Dozens of physicians reporting what is working and not working in their own practice encompassing tens of thousands of patients. There is no āmy successā hereā¦ itās irrelevantā¦ I have no financial interest in this field and the outcome, one way or another, have no bearing on my livelihood. I only want to know what is true and what can be demonstrated. Men with androgen resistance has become a true pandemic. Physicians raise T in these men and their health improves, not to mention they get off most of their previous medications. If that isnāt success I donāt know what is. This idiot would rather the keep their T in the clinical range and resolve their symptoms using opiods and SSRIs. Thanks, but no thanks.
Consider that the problem may lie elsewhere and is not the results of testosterone deficiency.
Sorry you are talking intellect, yet couldnāt even understand a simple graph you provided?
you provided the graph to show the decline in total testosterone, yet also claim this to be irrelevant due to androgen resistance in the same message?
Yet you raise testosterone and all symptoms resolve across the board.
Name me a SINGLE other solution that would accomplish this. Just one. You have the solution staring at you in the face and you tell people to ignore it? How foolish can you be?
Nope I tell people to consider other options rather than using unhealthy doses.
This is unreal. Am I on candid camera?
Guy has a ton of problems. Tries testosterone and it fixes everything. Health improves. No harm.
Idiot on the Internet: No, ignore that solution. Go find another solution that makes me feel better about myself. I donāt like the number. Spend the next ten-fifteen years feeling like shit until you find another solution where the number is prettier in my eyes.
You have to be an imbecile to even suggest such a thing. Youād have to be.
@lenono, many of us have been checked out by numerous docs and all other factors have been ruled out. Most of our bloodwork is within range for all other major (and minor) items. We have had MRIās, bone scans, etc. etc. Some of us have been to multiple medical professionals to double-check our diagnoses. Iām just wondering which other factors you believe could contribute?
@dbossa I mean no disrespect and have read all your stuff and watched all your videos. You are one of the FEW offering a new solution and trying to back it up with the most relevant science out there.
Lifestyle could be one reason. Mental health could be another.
Iām not the one offering anything. This is the thing that people donāt get. I didnāt invent this stuff. I was taught directly from physicians who are being successful with this. They teach me and I share what they have taught me because they oftentimes donāt have the time to make videos. I find the time, on my own time, and nobody pays me for this. I go by what they say is working with their patients as well as things I can also demonstrate for myself. By no means am I inventing any of this. I didnāt write all the studies.
And you know for sure the long term effects of high artifical total testoerone levels do you?
Artificial testosterone???
Please, PLEASE show me the molecular difference between the testosterone in our bodies and the testosterone we inject. PLEASE.
They are molecularly IDENTICAL!!
What you use in TRT. Not produced in your testes, but a lab.
Show me a side by side comparison of natural and āartificialā testosterone, Mr. Engineer.
This I gotta see.
SPOILER ALERT: If you display something with a different molecular structure, it ISNāT testosterone.
Both are represented by the chemical formula C19H28O2.
Do you want to answer the question now. Hint I gave you the answer already.