I’m happy to use this forum rather than a Facebook page managed by an absolute control freak.
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It’s ok, you wouldn’t last 5 minutes in my group until you were banned by one of the moderators. I was only joking about joining.
Here is research from 2018 on how it is currently done. Perhaps you can learn a thing or two?
Just to save you the time because you’re a slow reader:
Recent academic endeavors have shifted the paradigm of TRT being a contraindication in prostate cancer to becoming a viable option for select patients with symptomatic hypogonadism. Current data suggest that TRT can cautiously be offered to carefully selected men treated with curative intent for low- and intermediate-risk prostate cancer, who have no evidence of disease recurrence. More urologists, are becoming comfortable prescribing TRT for these men as well as those on active surveillance for low-risk prostate cancer.
Yeah you would only want people agreeing with you, to justify your abuse.
I’m a slow reader?! You couldn’t read a graph figure title, and have misunderstood tens of posts in here.
No, you see, we have plenty of people with differing opinions. We have discussion all the time.
The difference is, they understand this stuff thoroughly. I don’t have to explain basic fundamentals such as androgen resistance, serum levels being meaningless, ‘high e2 issues’, prostate caused by testosterone, dose too high, bio-identical, etc etc etc. You’re a NOOB with zero understanding and simply trying to do quick Google searches to prove your point from studies you haven’t read. That’s the difference. Also, the discussions involve physicians that actually know what they are talking about. Again, big difference.
You just want to pick out the information that suits you.
Are you a flat earther? Do you believe covid 19 is a hoax?
You sent me the study which you had googled and misunderstood?! Lmao.
No the earth isn’t flat. Covid is real but was totally overblown.
But I wouldn’t dare jump into those subjects with someone who still believes in ‘high e2 issues’ and dismisses all evidence provided to them.
I sent you a study that demonstrated the numbers falling over time, nothing more.
Good thing really, debates with junkies are pointless until they realise for themselves they have a problem.
I could say the same about debates with people who want to debate string theory and then take out a a spool of string to prove their point.
It would be equally as stupid as this. Actually, no… this is more stupid.
Another strange unrelated analogy
But, as the wise @dextermorgan pointed out, several times I might add, nobody here listens to you. It seems I’m the only one who decided to give you the time of day today, and that time has come to an end. Since nobody else listens to you, I don’t need to worry about anyone picking up any misinformation. You’re irrelevant.
Thanks for the laughs!
For such an old guy, you have a very immature way of communicating. You keep abusing your medicine and enjoy the health issues that follow.
dbossa changes his opinion every minute to fit his theories, we are many in the body building community laughing at him now, we even make memes of him, lol.
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Ofcourse they do.
Walking around with supraphysiological amounts of testosterone is NOT good for your system, just as too high amount of any hormone is good.
And im an amateur body builder who abuse this shit, yet I very much understand this.
These fools injecting themselves reaching 1700ng/dl thinking its “healthy” are just fooling themselves, they will get to see with time, cant tell em otherwise cuz their estrogen make them rage hardcore.
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Cause they didnt eat fast food/pizza and donuts every day. Its not cause they walked around with 1500 test.
Mean average test in the 50s: 500-600ng/dl.
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1100 has never been “normal”.
Studies from the fuckin 50s show that 1% of men had levels that high.
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Where has my opinion changed exactly?
Provide evidence of supraphysiological levels causing harm if you care to make such a statement. Back up your claims with evidence.
My total is barely over 1000…not 1700.
Please provide evidence in the medical literature that estrogen causes rage.
My labs from 6 years ago have 1100 as high end of normal.
Lots of claims being made here… No actual evidence. Please provide it.
You look it up.
And lack of evidence doesn’t mean it’s not harmful.
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I never said it wasn’t. What I keep saying is that there is no evidence demonstrating this after 80 years of study. So, if you want to fear the invisible boogieman that you may likely never find, by all means. There is no evidence to support it. Meanwhile you’ll gladly take all kinds of pharmaceutical drugs and never ask yourself about long term effects, but when it comes to a natually occurring substance in the body we all suddenly need to proceed with extreme caution. It’s ridiculous.
He made a statement. He should provide supporting data. It’s not up to me to research his statements. I’ll provide supporting evidence for any statement I make with pleasure.
80 years of study and they still haven’t found any evidence of harm. Seems to me if I had to take a position and place a bet, my bet would be an obvious one.