[quote]Rattus wrote:
I did not meant to be rude (okay, a little).
In a way I was trying to help you. Getting the book is not a big investment, it supports the creator of the program, and gives you the idea and principles of 531 in one place.
Aside you get the reasoning why things are in the templates/program how they are and lot of different ways to approach the method (in beyond 531 at least).
I don’t say it is impossible to do 531 without the book. But I at least have enjoyed it a lot. For a start read the training max-article from Jims homepage. [/quote]
No hard feeling haha, besides I knew coming on to this site and reading forums before hand I was going to get flack for something lol, but i understand what you mean, especially supporting the man which I can completely agree with. Thank you though. I’m almost positive I found out the process about TM. Now it comes down to is if this is the right program for me. (I’m assuming thats best to post on a different thread)
[quote]tsantos wrote:
The answer to your question is to understand the training max and eat for performance.
Search Jim Wendler on Amazon and you’ll find the books.[/quote]
OK, so i think I just found out what you meant I looked up TM 5,3,1. What I came to conclusion with is that yes my 1rm considering from last cycle is 260 i take 90% from that, so 235 and use that as the max for the program. So that would mean the 3rd weak of the program I would be doing 225 for 1+? The only thing with that is that seems very light to me. Correct me if im wrong with that[/quote]
You haven’t understood the TM, only how to calculate the initial TM. Read the book.
You’re not going to get flack just for posting something. However, the forum that was created here by Jim is still based around the book. Questions that he and others answer are based around reading the book. All information, like TM and how to calculate it, is in the book.
But to come to the forum hosted by the creator of this program, and admit you just went to some website that posted Jim’s program on it (which he gets paid for that product) is kind of mind blowing and ignorant. The questions about how to set up and lay out the program can be simply had by paying $10. Stop trying to get something for nothing
[quote]tsantos wrote:
What is your TM and what is your estimated 1RM based on the last PR set you did?[/quote]
What is TM? haha sorry im new to this. And from last cycle it was 260lb. I’m not sure if maybe its grip placement, not touching chest or that im on a cut (which everyone tells me is the reason) but doesn’t explain why I would have kept increasing every month.[/quote]
TM = Training Max, the number you use to calculate weight for reps on the 5/3/1 scheme. It is 10% of your calculated max.
Example:
Bench Press: I do 225x8. Plug in the forumla, discover my estimated max is 285. For training, I multiply that by .9 (90%), and round, so I have 255/260, depending on which one I want to go with.
5/3/1 Looks Like This:
TM=260
week 1 65-75 x 5 -85 x PR
week 2 70-80 x 5 -90 x PR
week 3 75-85 x 5 -95 x PR
Add 5 lbs to BP/OHP and 10 lbs to Squat/DL training max
repeat percentages with new training max (of 265 for BP) for weeks 4-6.
[quote]Jason-19 wrote:
You’re not going to get flack just for posting something. However, the forum that was created here by Jim is still based around the book. Questions that he and others answer are based around reading the book. All information, like TM and how to calculate it, is in the book.
But to come to the forum hosted by the creator of this program, and admit you just went to some website that posted Jim’s program on it (which he gets paid for that product) is kind of mind blowing and ignorant. The questions about how to set up and lay out the program can be simply had by paying $10. Stop trying to get something for nothing[/quote]
Well if you had read any of my previous responses to people I didn’t actually know he had a e-book I thought it was just a bunch of articles put together that he made that outlined the program. And I admitted to ignorance, I never said that getting every bit of info possible was the right thing, and completely understand the point of paying for the e-book to support the man. And yes I did come on to this site and made an account know people were gonna try to be somewhat rude just from looking at this site previously, its just how things work some people can’t be polite to ignorant people such as myself instead of just explaining. The man who did at first came off a bit rude but in the end meant well with what he said and I can appreciate that. Have a nice day
[quote]tsantos wrote:
What is your TM and what is your estimated 1RM based on the last PR set you did?[/quote]
What is TM? haha sorry im new to this. And from last cycle it was 260lb. I’m not sure if maybe its grip placement, not touching chest or that im on a cut (which everyone tells me is the reason) but doesn’t explain why I would have kept increasing every month.[/quote]
TM = Training Max, the number you use to calculate weight for reps on the 5/3/1 scheme. It is 10% of your calculated max.
Example:
Bench Press: I do 225x8. Plug in the forumla, discover my estimated max is 285. For training, I multiply that by .9 (90%), and round, so I have 255/260, depending on which one I want to go with.
5/3/1 Looks Like This:
TM=260
week 1 65-75 x 5 -85 x PR
week 2 70-80 x 5 -90 x PR
week 3 75-85 x 5 -95 x PR
Add 5 lbs to BP/OHP and 10 lbs to Squat/DL training max
repeat percentages with new training max (of 265 for BP) for weeks 4-6.[/quote]
Thank you. This is exactly what I thought it was when I found out what TM was. Appreciate it
For the time being I’m stopping this thread. I will be figuring out which program is best for me at this time. Again my apologies for my ignorance. Have a nice day everyone.
[quote]JoshRutherford wrote:
TM = Training Max, the number you use to calculate weight for reps on the 5/3/1 scheme. It is 10% of your calculated max.
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That might be the common recommendation for the initial TM but that’s not what a TM is.
If OP had a max press of 250, his TM may have been 235. On the next cycle, his TM is 240 but his max press may be 290 - no longer 90%
