Damn! I just sneezed and this thing just about put me on the floor.
I need more feminine products.
Good training, but that sucks. I hope it doesn’t slow you down to much.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
Damn! I just sneezed and this thing just about put me on the floor.
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Ice and heat? I would love to know what they do in professional sports for the guys who get banged up and return almost 100% over the course of 3 to 4 days.
Best wishes for a quick recovery.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
Damn! I just sneezed and this thing just about put me on the floor.
I need more feminine products.[/quote]
i’ve had a lot of those kind of injuries. in my case they were always a result of too much volume with too little rest.
to continue to train i taped up the area and put my belt over it. i also had to take a break on any type of movements that put the weight very far in front of my hips.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
Damn! I just sneezed and this thing just about put me on the floor.
I need more feminine products.[/quote]
i’ve had a lot of those kind of injuries. in my case they were always a result of too much volume with too little rest.
to continue to train i taped up the area and put my belt over it. i also had to take a break on any type of movements that put the weight very far in front of my hips.
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Cool. Then it’ll teach me to keep the weight close to my center of gravity. And it looks like it’s time to back off on the “assistance” volume, whether I want to or not.
2010-1-11
Clean from above the knees and Press
barx15
100x3
120x3
140 1x6 sets
Ass on Calves Paused Front Squat
140x3
190x3
210x2
230 1x6 sets
Pullups
BW 5x6 sets
Taking an impromptu deload. Can’t pull anything from below the knees or the short rib/oblique gets twanged. No problem with the front squats. Pullups would hurt if I tensed my middle, so 5 was all I could do per set. Tried to make all reps as fast as possible.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
Can’t pull anything from below the knees or the short rib/oblique gets twanged. No problem with the front squats. Pullups would hurt if I tensed my middle, so 5 was all I could do per set. Tried to make all reps as fast as possible.[/quote]
Twanged sounds somewhat painful. Sorry to hear that, and I hope its on the upswing.
Nice PH pressing the other day
and front squats ATG on a deload nice work
crap in the ribs- sucks, hard to wrap that.
S’alright. Gives me a chance to work on my Kurlz. I should recover and be stronger from the layoff since I’ve been pushing pretty hard the last few weeks.
Good solid progression here.
Have you tried Pin presses for military pressing? Now it will be done seated and to the front/ with probaly an addition of bands - wow I just stepped back and seen what I wrote - boy do I gotta stay tight or my shoulders are going to feel like crap.
still would like your thoughts on these.
Rick
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
Good solid progression here.
Have you tried Pin presses for military pressing? Now it will be done seated and to the front/ with probaly an addition of bands - wow I just stepped back and seen what I wrote - boy do I gotta stay tight or my shoulders are going to feel like crap.
still would like your thoughts on these.
Rick[/quote]
Thanks Rick.
I do pin presses once every cycle at varying heights. I’m not fond of bands for overhead pressing for two reasons not related to their efficacy:
- I can’t get an estimate of what I can really lift without them
- I can’t seem to find a setup that doesn’t take too much of the bottom end.
That said, I think seated presses with bands would be very effective since you can work force production from a position of higher stability. I don’t think they work so well for standing presses personally due to the higher need for core stabilization. Banded standing presses would probably train that, but it’s just plain harder and so harder to move poundages higher. But I’m an ab weeny and don’t work them very often. Others might have more success.
thinking more on this - no bands, just pin presses from the dead start set at clavicle level.
Rick
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
thinking more on this - no bands, just pin presses from the dead start set at clavicle level.
Rick[/quote]
That’s pretty much where I settled. Except for all the other stuff I’m doing too 
Depending on what you’re after, there’s some benefit to doing it at two different heights, alternating. Higher pin presses overload the movement and lead to gains in the full range. Reps in the full range seem to lend themselves to increasing weight in the partials. Seems like a virtuous cycle, at least in my case.
I’ve also gotten a lot of mileage out of submax full range singles, many and often. The repeated efforts done frequently seem to build all the small muscles necessary to complete the lift as you progress.
However, I have yet to experiment successfully with incorporating intense benching with a lot of intense overhead pressing. Seems like you have to do either/or or focus on one and let the other come up if it will but not sweat it if it won’t.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
thinking more on this - no bands, just pin presses from the dead start set at clavicle level.
However, I have yet to experiment successfully with incorporating intense benching with a lot of intense overhead pressing. Seems like you have to do either/or or focus on one and let the other come up if it will but not sweat it if it won’t.[/quote]
My experience, lately, with ‘older guy’ shoulders: I can’t regularly work both overhead pressing and benching succesfully into my schedule. I used to MP large amounts of weight, but to do so it meant neglecting my bench. And vice versa. You can guess which one wins in that battle:) And the carryover to pressing over head to my bench is limited. Even, or especially, raw.
[quote]PeteS wrote:
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
thinking more on this - no bands, just pin presses from the dead start set at clavicle level.
However, I have yet to experiment successfully with incorporating intense benching with a lot of intense overhead pressing. Seems like you have to do either/or or focus on one and let the other come up if it will but not sweat it if it won’t.[/quote]
My experience, lately, with ‘older guy’ shoulders: I can’t regularly work both overhead pressing and benching succesfully into my schedule. I used to MP large amounts of weight, but to do so it meant neglecting my bench. And vice versa. You can guess which one wins in that battle:) And the carryover to pressing over head to my bench is limited. Even, or especially, raw. [/quote]
i love to overhead press but it hasn’t really supported my bench the way i wish it did. i’ve found that i get more out of lateral raises, face pulls, cleans and upright rows.
someone needs to invent an overhead pressing shirt for whores like you Pete:)
Okay, let me just officialy state for the record that your new avatar makes my groin hurt just watching it. Ouch!
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]PeteS wrote:
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
thinking more on this - no bands, just pin presses from the dead start set at clavicle level.
However, I have yet to experiment successfully with incorporating intense benching with a lot of intense overhead pressing. Seems like you have to do either/or or focus on one and let the other come up if it will but not sweat it if it won’t.[/quote]
My experience, lately, with ‘older guy’ shoulders: I can’t regularly work both overhead pressing and benching succesfully into my schedule. I used to MP large amounts of weight, but to do so it meant neglecting my bench. And vice versa. You can guess which one wins in that battle:) And the carryover to pressing over head to my bench is limited. Even, or especially, raw. [/quote]
i love to overhead press but it hasn’t really supported my bench the way i wish it did. i’ve found that i get more out of lateral raises, face pulls, cleans and upright rows.
someone needs to invent an overhead pressing shirt for whores like you Pete:)
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I used to believe that overhead press would help bench, but I now believe that people focused on benching will get more out of various lateral and front raises and lots of rowing, all of those motions/exercises being more representative of how the shoulder girdle is actually used during benching. All of this has been proven out by Simmons, et al, of course, but now I actually believe it.
1-13-2010
Double DB clean and press
35x5
55sx5
65sx3
70s 1x6 sets
Zercher from Pins (Pin 3)
140x3
190x3
230x3
270x1
300x1,1
330x1,1
1 Arm DB Row (Elbows out)
85 5x3 sets
Got a farking chest cold (yet more fallout from overreaching) so I had no air for zercher’s after the DB C&P. Got my hips close to the bar on Z’s so they didn’t hurt. THe DB rows did a little until I started putting my elbow out. Not a bad deload. Subsequent sessions should look more like this, only heavier.
You wasn’t kidding about running on the hairy edge. I’m very familiar with your pain.
When is your next meet?
Whats up with the changes to your thread title? Are you trying to shake somebody off? Is meat stalking you again? You are up to 38 pages - whats the max on these threads?
[quote]Oldman Powers wrote:
You wasn’t kidding about running on the hairy edge. I’m very familiar with your pain.
When is your next meet?
Whats up with the changes to your thread title? Are you trying to shake somebody off? Is meat stalking you again? You are up to 38 pages - whats the max on these threads?[/quote]
max post count runs around 1126 and 46 pages
you’ll get used to avatar and thread title changing from DCA - too much time on his hands…