Hey Jim I’m an 18 yr old lifter from Canada I was wondering if you could help me out…
My 1tm on the bench press is 205 lbs but after like two months on 5/3/1 I was doing assistance closegrip bench for tri’s and the only decent weight I could do it with was 205 lbs it blew my fuckin mind those results is it bad to use assistance exercies like that with that close of a weight to your tm max?
I’m not sure what you mean or what you are asking.
Is it impacting your performance in the main lift?
allright my tm max on bench is 205lbs right? But i was doing closegrip bench with 205 lbs after like 2 months on the 5/3/1 program so my question is should i have layed back on doing closegrip bench with that weight (should i have proggressed slowly) or is it ok to do a weight that heavy? Like i was doing my 5/3/1 on the bench with less weight than I was doing with my closegrip bench, so I was wondering what you think about that, btw big fan I like how your stuff is always sweet and to the point and theres no filler like a lot of other coaches
and to the Australian dude I think its to early to tell
Seems pretty silly to me to go heavier on assistance work than your main work. You’re just bipassing the “slow and steady” mindset with your assistance work. If you’re going to do that, you might as well just up your TM. That’s just my opinion of course…
You did a heavy 1-rep workout for an assistance exercise? Why would you even want to? If you wanted to go heavy, you could have just kept adding weight to your regular bench, that’s what joker sets are for. If you feel CG bench is really helpful, you can still do it but there’s no point in going that heavy on assistance.
i was doing it for reps though, thats the thing. Like it was easy for me to do it. I was just wondering if its bad to do so when its at the same weight as your current tmax
You know they say Canada supposedly has a better school system than here in the US. You couldn’t deduce that from reading this kids posts. Embarrassing.
This is online not a final essay, still smashing you guys in school, healthcare and hockey <3
So your close grip bench is more than your regular bench? sounds like you have a weak lats and weak chest / shoulders. IDK man. How many pull ups can you do and what kind of weight are you rowing?
How ‘close’ is your close grip? Maybe you bench with your pointer finger on the rings, and you bench thumb from smooth on the “close grip” . maybe your “close grip” is your optimum grip width.
yea exactly I just started 5/3/1 a couple months back and before I used to only train the mirror muscles my backs weak as fuck but its grown since then. My closegrip has the ring finger on the very first line on the bar.
[quote]bignkosher wrote:
This is online not a final essay, still smashing you guys in school, healthcare and hockey <3[/quote]
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Carry on
Maybe what you consider a “close grip” is actually just a better grip width for you?? Just a thought…
[quote]bignkosher wrote:
allright my tm max on bench is 205lbs right? But i was doing closegrip bench with 205 lbs after like 2 months on the 5/3/1 program so my question is should i have layed back on doing closegrip bench with that weight (should i have proggressed slowly) or is it ok to do a weight that heavy? Like i was doing my 5/3/1 on the bench with less weight than I was doing with my closegrip bench, so I was wondering what you think about that, btw big fan I like how your stuff is always sweet and to the point and theres no filler like a lot of other coaches [/quote]
I still have no idea what you are asking. As far as I’m concerned, it’s ok to be strong. If you can close grip 205, that’s fine. I don’t know why you are freaked out over that. I don’t think anyone cares what kind of grip you use on a supine press of 205.
okay… sorry I will try this again, thank you for the patience. I was doing my 5/3/1 sets on the bench press and that particular day the most weight I used was 185 lbs. Then I moved onto assistance work and for the close grip bench press I used 205 lbs. Does doing an assistance exercise with more weight than the main exercise defeat the whole purpose of 5/3/1?
[quote]bignkosher wrote:
okay… sorry I will try this again, thank you for the patience. I was doing my 5/3/1 sets on the bench press and that particular day the most weight I used was 185 lbs. Then I moved onto assistance work and for the close grip bench press I used 205 lbs. Does doing an assistance exercise with more weight than the main exercise defeat the whole purpose of 5/3/1?[/quote]
See what happens when you write/speak clearly.
205 for what? Singles? 5x10?
[quote]LuigiS wrote:
[quote]bignkosher wrote:
okay… sorry I will try this again, thank you for the patience. I was doing my 5/3/1 sets on the bench press and that particular day the most weight I used was 185 lbs. Then I moved onto assistance work and for the close grip bench press I used 205 lbs. Does doing an assistance exercise with more weight than the main exercise defeat the whole purpose of 5/3/1?[/quote]
See what happens when you write/speak clearly.[/quote]
Don’t want to sound like a dick, but he’s right. If you had stated your question like this you probably would have had an answer by now.
As to your question, I don’t really see an issue other than the fact you need to get your bench stronger so like others have said hammer your back work. If you doing more weight on your assistance doesn’t affect the main lift then who gives a crap! So long as you’re getting stronger don’t worry.
[quote]LuigiS wrote:
[quote]bignkosher wrote:
okay… sorry I will try this again, thank you for the patience. I was doing my 5/3/1 sets on the bench press and that particular day the most weight I used was 185 lbs. Then I moved onto assistance work and for the close grip bench press I used 205 lbs. Does doing an assistance exercise with more weight than the main exercise defeat the whole purpose of 5/3/1?[/quote]
See what happens when you write/speak clearly.[/quote]
Yeah, now I understand your question.
Your “close grip” appears to be more of a natural grip, while your regular bench is too wide, making you weaker. In addition, since you stated that you trained “mirror muscles”. Because of this, your triceps are probably much more stronger than your lats, which greatly adds to this imbalance.