The guy in the pics is John Stone. He has a site that chronicals his diet, workouts, etc back from the start.
The story is all there. He’s got a pretty good forum as well. Lots of posters link to this site often for training article, btw.
[quote]animalmj wrote:
Didn’t that guy ever hear shoulder exercises? He looks better in the earlier pics, because it’s proportionate. Where the hell are his lats? Do some shrugs for christ’s sake![/quote]
You are very confused…
That is SO cool! The first few pics look like a totally different guy. Someone should make those pics into a morphing animation (PGA?)
Thanks for posting it!
[quote]animalmj wrote:
Didn’t that guy ever hear shoulder exercises? He looks better in the earlier pics, because it’s proportionate. Where the hell are his lats? Do some shrugs for christ’s sake![/quote]
wow did he just confuse lats with traps? Wow…
Much more can be done in 4 years. This guy had the stupid idea of cutting every year(and the usual lack of effort in the gym and kitchen).
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
BF Bullpup wrote:
I call Photoshop. He changed too much from March to April of the first year. In the last half of the pictures his head was obviously too small for the rest of his body. He looked like a pinhead, literally.
I take it you’ve never made any significant progress in the gym. Too bad for you.[/quote]
I don’t understand why someone who doesn’t believe this kind of progress (which is quite good BTW) is possible without drugs or digital trickery trains at all. What is there to strive for for someone like that?
This guy has made very good, but un-miraculous progress which he should be proud of, but much to the chagrin of some guys, it appears, he can still make even more. Really, some folks must just not believe that weight training actually works.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
I call Photoshop. He changed too much from March to April of the first year. In the last half of the pictures his head was obviously too small for the rest of his body. He looked like a pinhead, literally.[/quote]
You’re right, he did change too much between those months. He got a tan, shaved his chest, got his hair cut and possible colored, and took the picture from a slightly different angle. Oh, and he has what looks to be a blue M&M surfing his crotch.
The arms rolled forward thing is not good. That looks a lot like internaly rotated humerus.
He needs some external rotation work.
Other than that, he’s doing prety good.
Anyone who thinks that is amazing, unachievable or otherwise unusual progress is utterly out of touch with reality. And that is frikkin’ sad, especially on this site.
The kind of progress made there is average for 1 year training, not 4. Although I should say, one year PROPER training, and eating.
I haven’t read his log/routines but my guess is this guy seriously needs to do more deadlifting and should have done all along. He seems to have spent too much time benching, or otherwise working on pushing movements. I think he might have started to realise that towards the end.
I think he has done a good job but it did take him a lot longer than it should have, I bet he also looks back and thinks parts of his training were a waste of time, I guess we all do that though.
He certainly has transformed himself from the original. And a good idea of him to keep a photo log of progress.
Just checked pics on his website and from the side / back he has terrible lack of lat/trap development, especially the upper back, again I say HE NEEDS TO DEADLIFT. Hamstrings too look a bit wrong. That is not good. Also rear delts.
However, good on him
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
The arms rolled forward thing is not good. That looks a lot like internaly rotated humerus.
He needs some external rotation work.
Other than that, he’s doing prety good.
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He indicated on his website that he’s standing like that on purpose so that he could better monitor (in the pictures) his lat development.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
I call Photoshop. He changed too much from March to April of the first year. In the last half of the pictures his head was obviously too small for the rest of his body. He looked like a pinhead, literally.[/quote]
I thought the same. Facial expressions seem to be repeated exactly in a few pics. also, head is always tilted to the right side of body and haircut does not change. It could all be a coincidence but it looks kinda fake.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Anyone who thinks that is amazing, unachievable or otherwise unusual progress is utterly out of touch with reality. And that is frikkin’ sad, especially on this site.
The kind of progress made there is average for 1 year training, not 4. Although I should say, one year PROPER training, and eating.
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Agreed. Didn’t this guy make progress in a year?
[quote]UB07 wrote:
BF Bullpup wrote:
I call Photoshop. He changed too much from March to April of the first year. In the last half of the pictures his head was obviously too small for the rest of his body. He looked like a pinhead, literally.
I thought the same. Facial expressions seem to be repeated exactly in a few pics. also, head is always tilted to the right side of body and haircut does not change. It could all be a coincidence but it looks kinda fake. [/quote]
I think it’s a bit odd that his body fat never really seems to change, yet his size does.
He obviously wasn’t getting any until July 06.
I think he looked better in some of the middle sections of his development. In the end he’s got very little obvious muscle. But this does go to show the extent working out, in the long run he looks 1000 times better, if he would cut down it could be even furthered.
[quote]Mitchtj wrote:
I think he looked better in some of the middle sections of his development. In the end he’s got very little obvious muscle. But this does go to show the extent working out, in the long run he looks 1000 times better, if he would cut down it could be even furthered. [/quote]
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little obvious muscle, there is a thing called bulking, if you are afraid of a little smoothing out you will probaly never make drastic gains, this guy would have been better off not cutting every year.
everyone that says steriods or photoshop, needs to train more
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I don’t understand why someone who doesn’t believe this kind of progress (which is quite good BTW) is possible without drugs or digital trickery trains at all. What is there to strive for for someone like that?
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Absolutely nothing. These types of people will always look the same or worse. They will always try to degrade anyone bigger than them or blame drug use. It is WAY easier to look at someone who has made huge progress and try to blame everything but hard work for it…as opposed to working hard themselves or being half way as focused.
I do wonder why people like that are on this site and what they get out of coming here.
[quote]KO421 wrote:
Mitchtj wrote:
I think he looked better in some of the middle sections of his development. In the end he’s got very little obvious muscle. But this does go to show the extent working out, in the long run he looks 1000 times better, if he would cut down it could be even furthered.
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little obvious muscle, there is a thing called bulking, if you are afraid of a little smoothing out you will probaly never make drastic gains, this guy would have been better off not cutting every year.
everyone that says steriods or photoshop, needs to train more[/quote]
Shhh! Comments like his are how we can tell who the newbies are.
Yep, definetly newbie, so very true 