Have heard good and scary things about superdrol. I look forward to hearing your experiences @zeek1414
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When I start, I will be sure to keep this thread updated with pics. Havenât had bloods done in a long time so will get some before I start which should be in about a week and half.
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I have upgraded this thread from âtrackingâ to âwatchingâ. As usual Iâm intrigued by @Singhbuilder thoughts on anabolics. I am torn right now on what I want to do next but Iâm inclined to try something with short esters. This may be the perfect plan for me.
Glad to have you on board my friend! @alldayeveryday
Like yourself, I have been thinking about what to do next but âhealthâ keeps coming up as priority as well as aesthetics.
I think short cycles have a number of benefits compared to longer ones, including:
- Shorter period of elevated BP/liver and kidney enzymes
- Mentally satisfying to be able to be âonâ again within a short period of time
- Less weight gain = easier to maintain, less pressure on bodily organs
- Shorter length of time for sides to surface
- Although its a theory, âreceptor saturationâ and downregulation could potentially be avoided
Also, I donât know about you but being on for 8,10,12 weeks, it does get boring. After the initial excitement of starting the cycle, I would say around the 6th week its like âmehâ. Im used to feeling like superman by then, need to go back to feeling like Clark Kent to be able to appreciate the superman feeling again.
Just my opinion however.
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I decided not to Start a thread for a few reason. The first being I donât have any real accurate before cycle measurements or scan my last scan was over a month ago.
This is another reason. Altho tren does not make me lethargic it does the opposite I have heard superdrol almost always does altho the hope is I can get thru 4 weeks before that happens. But I didnât want to start a thread to then have to bail after a couple weeks.
Im also having this pip issue where itâs only managable to pin glutes with the mix so Iâm trying to figure out just how much oil I can i can pump into my glutes without issues.
I will have before and after liver values to share and will def share any negative or positives I encounter. So far the mix pre-workout has me feeling amazing the pumps are great blood pressure is staying in a good range. I donât experience a lot of the common tren sides like insomnia etc so Iâm not expecting an issue from that just keeping an eye on the drol sides.
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I agree completely. I remember early on reading about needle fatigue and thinking that sounded silly. It is legit. Towards the end of the cycle I am just ready for it to end so I can go back to my little insulin syringe trt doses. Iâm still learning and now more than ever my diet is becoming a major issue. My doc diagnosed me with âreactive hypoglycemiaâ and prescribed Metformin. She asked me to make dietary changes cutting out carbs which to me equals automatic death as a carb-o-holic. Still trying to figure it all out and how it effects my bodybuilding goals. Iâm down to 192 lbs which means ive lost everything from my last blast. Guess I will have to find another set point. On the bright side Iâm more ripped than ever not taking in all the carbs lol
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I made it 20 days on superdrol. After that i had to tap out. It was awful. 10/10 would do again if I was being paid to look bigger or be stronger, 0/10 would not do if I was a normal human (I am).
Was it due to lethargy? Or other sides? What dose were you taking?
Lethargy wasnât an issue at first, but by the end I realized just how shitty I felt. I was getting some heartburn, some nausea, etc. But during it I didnât think about it. It was about three days after I stopped that I woke up and thought âwow I feel great, that stuff was awfulâ. I took 10mg/d. The size I put on was stupid. 177 to 183 in 20 days eating at barely above maintenance (because eating was unpleasant from the heartburn). It took a full six months after I was off to get that kind of size again. That was the best Iâve ever looked up to that point. I was probably 17% bf but was vascular as hell, had striations all through my shoulders and arms, and was stronger than I had been since my peek in college. Wild stuff. I would consider it again only in a very narrow set of circumstances. But manâŠit really does live up to the hype.
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I want to put this out there in case any new guys are reading it. I didnât earn the right to use superdrol. I havenât earned the right to use tren, which is why I have not and will not. If I wasnât on trt I would personally not be going near these things, because I have a lot more room to grow without using anything beyond a better diet. But once youâre on for life itâs easier to experiment and see whatâs out there. But nobody should use my example as a template unless theyâre in a similar situation. Or unless theyâve earned it through years of dedication.
/end rant
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I did a series of 3 on/3 off cycles a few years ago, with a mix of tren a/test p/mast p. Total weekly was about 1050mg (all three combined). This was before I started TRT, so I did a two week nolva PCT in between runs. The last week before starting back up usually sucked (lack of motivation and energy in the gym, general malaise/lethargy, etc.), but I would usually continue gaining into the first week off (blood levels likely still dropping, so duh).
Gained 5-7 pounds each time, by the time I started the next one I was still up 3-4. Total gain over the series was about 15 pounds I want to say, with no fat gain to speak of. Got strong as hell on the tren (only time Iâve ever benched 370 x 1 - that was the second or third run). Got ALL of the tren sides, and the tren dick took a while to sort itself out. Which is why I havenât touched it since, though Iâve come close a few times (that and the cardio issues as well).
I think your plan of TRT dosing in between (old school BBâers used to call that âbridgingâ) will solve any issues in between cycles - your levels will obviously still drop from the high of the run, but they wonât completely tank. Great idea. And since you are on TRT, you wonât have to worry about PCT after the whole thing is done. After my final short run, I crashed a couple weeks after the PCT (which was only two weeks, just like the ones in between). At that point I did a proper 4 week PCT and that got everything back to normal.
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The older you get the more carbs become your enemy no longer helping you to feed those glycogen starved muscles. You have to find another way.
Apparently that way is low carb. I havent had a single episode since starting metformin and dropping my carb intake. Iâm gonna give it a go and see what happens. I dont know how the hell Iâm ever going to gain weight without carbs though. Just doesnât compute in my small brain.
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I love metformin. I take 500mg twice a day. I get mine from India since I am not diabetic.
I miss bread pizza and beer the most. I will cheat every now and then.
Looking good is important it to me it turns my wife on but god dammit I will have one slice of pizza at least once a month. haha
That said lean steak, chicken breast fried in olive oil is a darn good sub. No omega 6âs replace with omega 3âs. You can still do sweet potatoes and wild rice. That said High protein and high good fats does a darn good job of keeping you full and growing muscle.
Why donât you just pin multiple times with insulin syringes if you need a larger amount ?
Totally agree with that it seems to be the way to go if on TRT.
Have you done any more shorter cycles while youâve been on TRT? The 15lbs gain is impressive, I assume most will be kept without the huge dip in androgen levels due to TRT. @boatguy
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Thats terrible. Sorry to hear that. My lifting career would literally be destroyed if I had to cut carbs, I eat a high carb, moderate protein and low fat diet. Its the only diet I can function on.
Is there really nothing else you can do other than to cut carbs?
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Not that I am aware of at this point. I think the risk of leaving this unchecked is eventually going full blown diabetic. Its just a matter of time and my pancreas will shut down insulin production. Trust me I love carbs and its a major part of my diet my whole life.
Short ester and front load?
I may be overestimating how much I gained, itâs been a few years. But easily 10 pounds that was fairly easy to keep.
Havenât done any short cycles on TRT, Iâve been doing more of the conventional-type cycles instead.
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