Watch and comment, please. I want to be able to do an olympic squat.
I posted this in bb.com but I think this website is far more experienced!
As of now, I plan to lower the weight and start a new program; madcow starting weight of 285x5.
I will use high bar olympic squats with olympic shoes. Other than commenting on my form, can anyone provide their own experience with high bar squats and olympic shoes. Should I let ego out the door and start with 285 and ditch low bar squats?
Thanks. Always willing to listen and learn from the more experienced lifters.
Good question. My main concern is the forward lean, which i heard a high bar placement will help fix. I will use olympic shoes so figured a high bar placement was essential. Has anyone seen any success with low bar placement but olympic shoes?
If you go low bar and want to maximise your PL squat you would not want a raised heel. It will tip you more forwards…
The last squat didn’t look too safe man…far too much lean forwards.
High bar won’t STOP you from leaning forwards. You have to stop yourself from leaning forwards. The only thing high bar will do is make leaning forwards a lot worse if you do lean forwards…do front squats, that will show you if your squating properly when your doing an oly high bar. You can’t lean forwards like you are for a front squat. The bar will SIMPLY DROP to the floor. Front squat you need to be able to support the bar across your shoulders. If you lean forwards it will fall down!
The main problem imo is your not use to squating with an upright body. As you come out of the bottom you lean forwards, your suppose to keep your truck as vertical as possible and then drive with your legs. Leaning forwards causes a lot more stress on your back. A PL low bar they lean backwards so they aren’t leaning forwards as much (net result) if your not leaning backwards like in a high bar oly squat!
Drop the weight by 50lbs and post an other video of you focusing on keeping your trunk upright.
IF your trunk isn’t upright drop the weight further. Your legs are strong, but your back is not or your simply not use to focusing on keeping your trunk upright so it will take some time to adjust.
Either way your current form isn’t ideal and may lead to an injury later on. The 4th rep was savage!
[quote]Ever_Arias wrote:
Good question. My main concern is the forward lean, which i heard a high bar placement will help fix. I will use olympic shoes so figured a high bar placement was essential. Has anyone seen any success with low bar placement but olympic shoes? [/quote]
Like Koing said, the forward lean won’t be fixed by Olympic squats. It’ll actually be tougher to fix using high bar since the torque arm (your body) is much longer. Lots of PLers do low bar wide stance squats with olympic shoes. The purpose of olympic shoes is to have a non collapsable heel so you can have a more stable drive out of the hole. Which way you squat does not affect its purpose.
That being said, to fix your forward lean for a low bar squat, work on Glute and ham activation. Really sit back into the squat and keep your weight on your heels while keeping your back as tight as possible.
If you are really keen on doing high bar OL style squats, focus on keeping the torso upright and dropping straight like a piston between your heels. Think about pulling yourself into the bottom position to stay tight.
[quote]Ever_Arias wrote:
I recently tried my weightlifting shoes. Mind commenting on form?
I noticed that my knees go beyond my toes. Is this bad?
Thanks. [/quote]
Form looks better then your previous video. Keep working hard on keeping your chest and body more upright. Your still leaning a tad too far forwards, as you come up keep your chest up and drive your hips in forwards.
Knees going beyond your knees is normal in Oly squats.
Get a video of just 60kg and see how that looks. Your body should be a bit more upright but it looks a lot better then your previous video mate!
Form for the first few reps doesn’t look too bad, but by the 3rd it’s a lot worse mate!
The lean forwards is not good mate, but it is more improved in the first few reps.
How much do you have?
Drop the weight down to 60,80,100kg so I can see what those weights look like mate. The weight will go up later, so dont fret. Most people can’t stand to lift less weight and do things properly. I want to see if you can squat properly on 60,80 and 100kg.
Mate, why don’t you post a video of 80kg? I just to confirm that you can actually do the correct technique. The weight is irrelevant. It will come up later man…
[quote]Ever_Arias wrote:
The last video you commented was 225lbs or 102kg. This new video is 127kg.
I think my weakness is abs. I will post a video of 130kg this friday, i expect better form since my lower back won’t be as sore. [/quote]
You have weakness in your glutes, abs, and hamstrings. You also have improper squat technique.
You really have to sit “down” into the squat, instead of sitting “back”. Try to mimic this form:
Chest up, core tight, and decend with your hips slightly rotated back.
If you are high bar OL squatting, do not push your hips back like a low bar PL squat.They are different exercises with different movement patterns.
Why you can’t do that is a combination of learning another squat technique first and weak muscularate. Gear in your squat technique first. Once you have learned that, work on bringing up your prosterior chain.
