[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< They’vr given Obama an easy ride for four years because they love him. And they DO NOT want him replaced.[/quote]Which is why they will find a way to work Romney’s comic book religion into the mix front and center.
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Way to express religious tolerance Trib (eye roll).
But yes you are correct, if the media sees a Romney surge they will unleash a Mormon busting attack that will be unprecedented
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< They’vr given Obama an easy ride for four years because they love him. And they DO NOT want him replaced.[/quote]Which is why they will find a way to work Romney’s comic book religion into the mix front and center.
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Way to express religious tolerance Trib (eye roll).
But yes you are correct, if the media sees a Romney surge they will unleash a Mormon busting attack that will be unprecedented[/quote]
Maybe it is because I’m still young (32), but the religon thing will be that big of a factor huh?
My perspective is probably clouded by the fact I really don’t care what other people believe in as long as they aren’t killing other people with it.
Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
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Please don’t scare me like that.
Lol.
We need to stop this before it can happen.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< They’vr given Obama an easy ride for four years because they love him. And they DO NOT want him replaced.[/quote]Which is why they will find a way to work Romney’s comic book religion into the mix front and center.
[/quote]
Way to express religious tolerance Trib (eye roll).
But yes you are correct, if the media sees a Romney surge they will unleash a Mormon busting attack that will be unprecedented[/quote]
Maybe it is because I’m still young (32), but the religon thing will be that big of a factor huh?
My perspective is probably clouded by the fact I really don’t care what other people believe in as long as they aren’t killing other people with it.
Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public?
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It’s not that Mormonism is “bad” it’s that the media will try to make it look bad. And as we both know you can make anything look bad if you pound it home enough.
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< It’s not that Mormonism is “bad” it’s that the media will try to make it look bad. And as we both know you can make anything look bad if you pound it home enough. [/quote]No ZEB, you are simply wrong. Mormonism IS bad and not just to historic Christians like me. Hold tight you will see. There will be no need to “make it” anything. Simply reading the documents will do. Mark my words. I KNOW what I am talkin about.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
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And walking on water…and burning bushes talking…and people rising from the dead can’t be made to look foolish?
Come on Trib.
Anything and anyone can be made to look foolish if the media decides to pound it.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< It’s not that Mormonism is “bad” it’s that the media will try to make it look bad. And as we both know you can make anything look bad if you pound it home enough. [/quote]No ZEB, you are simply wrong. Mormonism IS bad and not just to historic Christians like me. Hold tight you will see. There will be no need to “make it” anything. Simply reading the documents will do. Mark my words. I KNOW what I am talkin about.
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All I know is you’re about to turn a political thread into a religious thread. And I’m not biting.
As I’ve said anything and anyone can be made to look bad if enough time is spent by the media. Beyond that I’m not going to get into a religious debate about Mormonism.
SHEEEEESH TRIB!!!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
[/quote]
And walking on water…and burning bushes talking…and people rising from the dead can’t be made to look foolish?
Come on Trib.
Anything and anyone can be made to look foolish if the media decides to pound it.
[/quote]Old news. 2000 years. I already said that there is nothing new to report about historic Christianity. The problem you’re having is that you think when I say “comic book religion” that I’m simply being bigoted and negative and overstating the case. NO SIR, I literally mean that comic books and modern super hero/science fiction movies are just as believable. Maher is correct. Smith was arrested as a swindling con man several times before the story about the appearance of the father and son and the angel Moroni and golden plates and all the rest of this eye popping silliness. Once people believed him, he figured out he could get mighty rich and mighty laid (other men’s wives too) through his new found role as "prophet seer, revelator. Like I say. Just watch. Unless they give him a pass (har dee har har) you’ll see what I mean.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:<<< It’s not that Mormonism is “bad” it’s that the media will try to make it look bad. And as we both know you can make anything look bad if you pound it home enough. [/quote]No ZEB, you are simply wrong. Mormonism IS bad and not just to historic Christians like me. Hold tight you will see. There will be no need to “make it” anything. Simply reading the documents will do. Mark my words. I KNOW what I am talkin about.
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All I know is you’re about to turn a political thread into a religious thread. And I’m not biting.
As I’ve said anything and anyone can be made to look bad if enough time is spent by the media. Beyond that I’m not going to get into a religious debate about Mormonism.
SHEEEEESH TRIB!!![/quote]This bears directly on the election and I was asked. Romney is a horrible candidate for a whole list of reasons that don’t even have anything to do with Mormonism. Support him. I do. But know what you’re supporting. I do.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Romney is a horrible candidate for a whole list of reasons that don’t even have anything to do with Mormonism. Support him. I do. But know what you’re supporting. I do.
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HAHA
Mufasa is right.
If Romney wins it will be because he isn’t obama. I’m actually kinda fine with that.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Romney is a horrible candidate for a whole list of reasons that don’t even have anything to do with Mormonism. Support him. I do. But know what you’re supporting. I do.
[/quote]
HAHA
Mufasa is right.
If Romney wins it will be because he isn’t obama. I’m actually kinda fine with that.[/quote]
Yep, CB…like I said, it will boil down to “Obama” and “Not Obama”.
Want to know what a large segment of the Religious Right believes?
Just listen to Bill Maher and Tiribulis.
Mufasa
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
[/quote]
And walking on water…and burning bushes talking…and people rising from the dead can’t be made to look foolish?
Come on Trib.
Anything and anyone can be made to look foolish if the media decides to pound it.
[/quote]Old news. 2000 years. I already said that there is nothing new to report about historic Christianity. The problem you’re having is that you think when I say “comic book religion” that I’m simply being bigoted and negative and overstating the case. NO SIR, I literally mean that comic books and modern super hero/science fiction movies are just as believable. Maher is correct. Smith was arrested as a swindling con man several times before the story about the appearance of the father and son and the angel Moroni and golden plates and all the rest of this eye popping silliness. Once people believed him, he figured out he could get mighty rich and mighty laid (other men’s wives too) through his new found role as "prophet seer, revelator. Like I say. Just watch. Unless they give him a pass (har dee har har) you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]
While I agree with you Trib (and I live in LDS central) your attitude is NO different than how the majority of Americans felt about Kennedy being Catholic.
NO DIFFERENT.
By the way:
Bill Maher hates ALL religion and
There are plenty of Anti-Mormon threads on this Forum (for one guy, that was his actual “Ministry”).
So…please let’s not make this thread another one.
Do a search, and post-away on one of those threads.
Mufasa
The ra-ra feel-good speeches that Obama gives do not help you pay Visa, and at the end of the day, that is what Romney needs to hammer into voters.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
[/quote]
And walking on water…and burning bushes talking…and people rising from the dead can’t be made to look foolish?
Come on Trib.
Anything and anyone can be made to look foolish if the media decides to pound it.
[/quote]Old news. 2000 years. I already said that there is nothing new to report about historic Christianity. The problem you’re having is that you think when I say “comic book religion” that I’m simply being bigoted and negative and overstating the case. NO SIR, I literally mean that comic books and modern super hero/science fiction movies are just as believable. Maher is correct. Smith was arrested as a swindling con man several times before the story about the appearance of the father and son and the angel Moroni and golden plates and all the rest of this eye popping silliness. Once people believed him, he figured out he could get mighty rich and mighty laid (other men’s wives too) through his new found role as "prophet seer, revelator. Like I say. Just watch. Unless they give him a pass (har dee har har) you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]
While I agree with you Trib (and I live in LDS central) your attitude is NO different than how the majority of Americans felt about Kennedy being Catholic.
NO DIFFERENT.
[/quote]There were Catholic delegates to the first constitutional convention.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Romney is a horrible candidate for a whole list of reasons that don’t even have anything to do with Mormonism. Support him. I do. But know what you’re supporting. I do.
[/quote]
HAHA
Mufasa is right.
If Romney wins it will be because he isn’t obama. I’m actually kinda fine with that.[/quote]
Far too soon to believe that. As I said you and the others are political junkies. The rest of the country still has not been introduced to Romney in his full capacity, only flash images.
Time will tell.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:<<< Are mormons really that bad? In the eye of the general public? >>>[/quote]The general public knows nothing about mormonism except that it’s some kind of sorta Christian thing that’s different somehow. When they begin to press Romney on the spectacularly preposterous nature of the religion he is on record as proclaiming his unbending faith in it WILL make some people wonder if he’s fit to be president. I am not simply being bigoted and EVERYBODY knows what historic Christianity generally is, so no, that is not even remotely the same thing.
Imagine when a “serious” interviewer is doing his journalistic equivalent of this on a national news show that is not intended as comedy. Or in an interview in October. Unless Romney turns them down looking cowardly and deceptive. I’m telling you folks I could make him look like a monumentally gullible madman compared to which even a second Obama term would be preferable even tough it wouldn’t be.
[/quote]
And walking on water…and burning bushes talking…and people rising from the dead can’t be made to look foolish?
Come on Trib.
Anything and anyone can be made to look foolish if the media decides to pound it.
[/quote]Old news. 2000 years. I already said that there is nothing new to report about historic Christianity. The problem you’re having is that you think when I say “comic book religion” that I’m simply being bigoted and negative and overstating the case. NO SIR, I literally mean that comic books and modern super hero/science fiction movies are just as believable. Maher is correct. Smith was arrested as a swindling con man several times before the story about the appearance of the father and son and the angel Moroni and golden plates and all the rest of this eye popping silliness. Once people believed him, he figured out he could get mighty rich and mighty laid (other men’s wives too) through his new found role as "prophet seer, revelator. Like I say. Just watch. Unless they give him a pass (har dee har har) you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]
While I agree with you Trib (and I live in LDS central) your attitude is NO different than how the majority of Americans felt about Kennedy being Catholic.
NO DIFFERENT.
[/quote]There were Catholic delegates to the first constitutional convention.
[/quote]
Does not change the fact that a large portion of Americans at the time thought that Catholics answered to the papacy first and our government second…I have read many papers on this subject.
Religion may be an issue in the election, but I hope it’s not.
From the L.A. Times
DEEP BREATH, guys!
I know many of you are more anxious than a kid on Christmas Eve to get rid of the President…
So… while I think that there are many things that can derail his candidacy; I DON’T think that his religion is one.
Mufasa