3 Guys 1 Hammer (NSFW)

[quote]MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I dont know where you live and what group of people you beeen around.

brother, i dont know where YOU live but in some parts ive seen you try to help a woman getting stabbed to death and you wind up dead. sadly we’re not all superheros. you do what you can to help but what do you expect when we’re are outlawing firearms.

how many rapes have been prevented by a police? 0
how many rapes have been prevented by a woman and a gun? you find the number.

my point being we cant save the world.

1 Its been said the pronlem with society today is that peoplee sit back and let others solve their problems. We have no honor anymore. When a real man sees someone being hurt and he can do somrthing about it he does end of story none of that pussy “well i could get hurt” shit. If someone could do somthing about the attacks it is their responsibility to do so. If that is not true the world can only go down further

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.
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they brought it on themselves? the fuck? who is doing the torture? i for one nominate you to do all torturing to all criminals. as you stare them in the eye tell them they brought this on themeselves. i hope your an atheist to think some sick shit like that but i know your not, most atheist think much more logically than that.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I dont know where you live and what group of people you beeen around.

brother, i dont know where YOU live but in some parts ive seen you try to help a woman getting stabbed to death and you wind up dead. sadly we’re not all superheros. you do what you can to help but what do you expect when we’re are outlawing firearms.

how many rapes have been prevented by a police? 0
how many rapes have been prevented by a woman and a gun? you find the number.

my point being we cant save the world.

1 Its been said the pronlem with society today is that peoplee sit back and let others solve their problems. We have no honor anymore. When a real man sees someone being hurt and he can do somrthing about it he does end of story none of that pussy “well i could get hurt” shit. If someone could do somthing about the attacks it is their responsibility to do so. If that is not true the world can only go down further

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.

they brought it on themselves? the fuck? who is doing the torture? i for one nominate you to do all torturing to all criminals. as you stare them in the eye tell them they brought this on themeselves. i hope your an atheist to think some sick shit like that but i know your not, most atheist think much more logically than that.[/quote]

I should know better than to debate such a topic with someone so nieve as to think someone who savagly murdered more than 20 inoccent people did not bring it one themselvs if they were given the same treatment as they dished out. But this what I should expect this from a pussy who said they would not get involved cause they might get stabbed and die.

I’m done withthis thread I’d rather discuss such topics with rational people than with idelogs living in a fantasy world

I clicked on the video and it was a chick breastfeeding. She had some nice tits but whatever.

[quote]MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I dont know where you live and what group of people you beeen around.

brother, i dont know where YOU live but in some parts ive seen you try to help a woman getting stabbed to death and you wind up dead. sadly we’re not all superheros. you do what you can to help but what do you expect when we’re are outlawing firearms.

how many rapes have been prevented by a police? 0
how many rapes have been prevented by a woman and a gun? you find the number.

my point being we cant save the world.

1 Its been said the pronlem with society today is that peoplee sit back and let others solve their problems. We have no honor anymore. When a real man sees someone being hurt and he can do somrthing about it he does end of story none of that pussy “well i could get hurt” shit. If someone could do somthing about the attacks it is their responsibility to do so. If that is not true the world can only go down further

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.

they brought it on themselves? the fuck? who is doing the torture? i for one nominate you to do all torturing to all criminals. as you stare them in the eye tell them they brought this on themeselves. i hope your an atheist to think some sick shit like that but i know your not, most atheist think much more logically than that.

I should know better than to debate such a topic with someone so nieve as to think someone who savagly murdered more than 20 inoccent people did not bring it one themselvs if they were given the same treatment as they dished out. But this what I should expect this from a pussy who said they would not get involved cause they might get stabbed and die.

I’m done withthis thread I’d rather discuss such topics with rational people than with idelogs living in a fantasy world[/quote]

were you trying to describe yourself? “nieve” if anyone is naive it is you to immagine you would intervene with a firearm. ill bet money you’ve never even fired one. have you ever been fucking stabbed? untill you’ve been stabbed or seen it happen to a close friend you shouldnt speak on that issue either. rational? you just said you would intervene with 2 admittidly pyschopathic serial killers. yes im in the fantasy world.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I dont know where you live and what group of people you beeen around.

brother, i dont know where YOU live but in some parts ive seen you try to help a woman getting stabbed to death and you wind up dead. sadly we’re not all superheros. you do what you can to help but what do you expect when we’re are outlawing firearms.

how many rapes have been prevented by a police? 0
how many rapes have been prevented by a woman and a gun? you find the number.

my point being we cant save the world.

1 Its been said the pronlem with society today is that peoplee sit back and let others solve their problems. We have no honor anymore. When a real man sees someone being hurt and he can do somrthing about it he does end of story none of that pussy “well i could get hurt” shit. If someone could do somthing about the attacks it is their responsibility to do so. If that is not true the world can only go down further

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.

they brought it on themselves? the fuck? who is doing the torture? i for one nominate you to do all torturing to all criminals. as you stare them in the eye tell them they brought this on themeselves. i hope your an atheist to think some sick shit like that but i know your not, most atheist think much more logically than that.

I should know better than to debate such a topic with someone so nieve as to think someone who savagly murdered more than 20 inoccent people did not bring it one themselvs if they were given the same treatment as they dished out. But this what I should expect this from a pussy who said they would not get involved cause they might get stabbed and die.

I’m done withthis thread I’d rather discuss such topics with rational people than with idelogs living in a fantasy world

were you trying to describe yourself? “nieve” if anyone is naive it is you to immagine you would intervene with a firearm. ill bet money you’ve never even fired one. have you ever been fucking stabbed? untill you’ve been stabbed or seen it happen to a close friend you shouldnt speak on that issue either. rational? you just said you would intervene with 2 admittidly pyschopathic serial killers. yes im in the fantasy world.[/quote]

I shouldnt have even come back but. To all your questions have you? And no i havent seen someone stabbed but i did once see someone get there head smashed with a peice of rebarb. I was 11 and was scard as shit. I was was with my grandfather in the car and drove at the attcker to chase them away. we were in the car. I do own a gun and enjoy some target practice every now and then. I have a conscience so yes i would intervene. I wouldnt be able to live with myself if i did not. Esspesially if i found out later the magnitude of what i had saw. Oh and once i did see guy attack a girl i knew. I did step in. Could he have killed me yes. But only someone with no honor thinks about those things. Very selfish

so you see a man attacking a woman, beating her to death. you kill the man by your logic. little did you know the woman just murdered all three of his children. if you dont understand where im coming from its not your place to intervene in something like that with force. the most you can do is restrain.

I can see both points being made here. But lets keep this specific to the situation. I think there are some key points in this particular situation that gives us a good idea that this victim did not murder these two little fuck-tards 3 children.

I think the fact that they were laughing, and that it was a pregnant woman gives you a good idea that she is probably 100% victim in this situation. It doesn’t guarentee it, but in this situation I doubt most men would ‘think’, most would ‘react’. And I would like to think that if most men saw a pregnant woman being beaten with fucking hammers, they would step in.

I can see from Deorums responses that not ALL men would, but lets hope most would.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
so you see a man attacking a woman, beating her to death. you kill the man by your logic. little did you know the woman just murdered all three of his children. if you dont understand where im coming from its not your place to intervene in something like that with force. the most you can do is restrain.[/quote]

Im not talking about killing them on the spot i never said that but if you see some one being viciously attacked you step in. Somebody is wrong. But you dont let the violence continue. What we were talking about was punishment. We both agreed to execuite the bastards but I just don’t feel death is enough conccidering whatt they did

Straight up, they need to be tied up and nibbled to death by rats. I don’t see what the debate is about.

Fuck them, and their existance.

[quote]meangenes wrote:
Imprisonment for life with no human contact. Not even the voice of a person; absolute solitary confinement in silence. Enough nourishment to sustain a natural state of health (vitamins, minerals etc). Their food should have minimal, if not no flavor. Along with water. Everything in one room. Their beds will be soft enough to sleep on but not enough to find “comfort”. Tasteless toothpaste, scentless soap. No medical attention should be administered as there should be no need for it.

The only thing that will decide their human existence is if they decide to maintain their hygiene. If they maintain normal hygiene then they will receive normal nourishment distribution. If they do not, then they are choosing not to live. That process is the last words they will hear or read and will be offered in written and verbal context. [/quote]

I really like my solution. If you actually think about it, it’s most plausible and effective.

How much could this cost anyway? Not much more than keeping a pet.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
woah brother slow down. you have NO idea what is going on. all you know is a man is being killed nothing more. what if that man already killed their entire family. YOU DONT KNOW. end of story. you are not god to make life or death situation. all you can do is call your government and let them handle it. that said if it was happening to your dad/brother/sister/mother, you shoot them quitely in the back of the head and feed their bodies to the hogs.[/quote]

Hulk is that you?

[quote]meangenes wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Imprisonment for life with no human contact. Not even the voice of a person; absolute solitary confinement in silence. Enough nourishment to sustain a natural state of health (vitamins, minerals etc). Their food should have minimal, if not no flavor. Along with water. Everything in one room. Their beds will be soft enough to sleep on but not enough to find “comfort”. Tasteless toothpaste, scentless soap. No medical attention should be administered as there should be no need for it.

The only thing that will decide their human existence is if they decide to maintain their hygiene. If they maintain normal hygiene then they will receive normal nourishment distribution. If they do not, then they are choosing not to live. That process is the last words they will hear or read and will be offered in written and verbal context.

I really like my solution. If you actually think about it, it’s most plausible and effective.

How much could this cost anyway? Not much more than keeping a pet.[/quote]

I agree completely with this solution. I think a lost of comments on here are getting mixed up between someone actually stumbling across this happening and having to intervene, and them being apprehended and going through due process. Intervening and giving these criminals a kicking (or a kneecapping) is not the same as being jury or judge and passing a rational sentence in court.

[quote]meangenes wrote:
Deorum wrote:
woah brother slow down. you have NO idea what is going on. all you know is a man is being killed nothing more. what if that man already killed their entire family. YOU DONT KNOW. end of story. you are not god to make life or death situation. all you can do is call your government and let them handle it. that said if it was happening to your dad/brother/sister/mother, you shoot them quitely in the back of the head and feed their bodies to the hogs.

Hulk is that you?[/quote]

ha i guess were from different parts of the world. dialects might be a little different, no?

[quote]MrDan500 wrote:

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.
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MrDan500 - you’re my kinda people. Eye for an eye - spot fucking on.

If someone brutally murdered my kid, like those animals in Tennessee did to that couple, I would want the government to exact torture. As the perps burned a crowd should be encouraged to piss on their flaming bodies to extinguish the flame and then they should be left there to suffer. The murder rate in this country would drop overnight. Hey - call me old fashioned. (And as a hardcore Libertarian I’m sure a lot of libertarians would disagree with me but fuck them!)

[quote]saveski wrote:
MrDan500 wrote:

2 The question earlier was weather or not they should be totured. Yes they should. No not right then, or by some bystander turned hero. Have the trial, find them guilty then burn them alive. Why? because They shoulb be killed but should not have the honor of it being a quick death. Eye for an eye. And i would take NO pleasure in their suffering. But if you dont think they brought it on themselvs then I think your the one with problems. Esspcially if you think the victims are in any way at fault. You said yourself we cant all be super heros.

MrDan500 - you’re my kinda people. Eye for an eye - spot fucking on.

If someone brutally murdered my kid, like those animals in Tennessee did to that couple, I would want the government to exact torture. As the perps burned a crowd should be encouraged to piss on their flaming bodies to extinguish the flame and then they should be left there to suffer. The murder rate in this country would drop overnight. Hey - call me old fashioned. (And as a hardcore Libertarian I’m sure a lot of libertarians would disagree with me but fuck them!)
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ok NOW you’ve GENUINELY offended me. its one thing to hear you wish your government to torture on your sick behalf but to then turn around and claim the libertarian party? i(and im sure 99% of all other libertarians) would rather not have you associate such things with the libertarian party.

if you want these men tortured guess what you should do? go out and do it your fucking self. if someone did anything of the sort to my family, guess the fuck what? THE COPS WOULD NEVER FIND THEM TO ARREST THEM. you want a fucking eye for an eye? stop being passive about it and take the fucking eye yourself. but to have the government, the representation of our entire country, torture on YOUR behalf is fucking illogical. my tax dollars will not go to torture a fucker because it will help you sleep better.

3 guys and 1 hammer, eh? Sounds like the highway crews, two guys standin around while 1 does all the work? Am I right? Really though i didn’t watch the video and I’m going to assume it’s something to do with home improvement, because that will help me sleep at night.

To the people who are unable to understand how any of the rest of us can watch something like this I say the following. It is gory, shows disrespect for humanity and is sickening. However, some people are able to watch this and go about their lives cheerfully without getting fucked up because they are able compartmentalize their experiences and file them among already known experiences.

This video is shocking not only because it is gory, but simply because many of you have not read enough history or have not had any experience to see life and death, brutally and violence first hand (that is of course not a bad thing). You’re “surprised” in the truest sense of the word, that you are not used to these types of things.

I guess you never visited the Holocaust Museum in DC, the Nanjing Massacre Museum in Jiangsu, the Tower of London, I could go on and on. Some humans are “inhumane.” Read some more history, and in doing so you realize how beautiful compassion and humanity are, simply because they are not a given.

If you have experienced some horror before, you are able to see something like this despicable murder less as isolated incident, and more as a metaphor for some of the sickening characteristics of man, and it doesn’t shatter your world view.

Having said that, I don’t encourage anyone to watch the video.

[quote]migrantworker wrote:
To the people who are unable to understand how any of the rest of us can watch something like this I say the following. It is gory, shows disrespect for humanity and is sickening. However, some people are able to watch this and go about their lives cheerfully without getting fucked up because they are able compartmentalize their experiences and file them among already known experiences.

This video is shocking not only because it is gory, but simply because many of you have not read enough history or have not had any experience to see life and death, brutally and violence first hand (that is of course not a bad thing). You’re “surprised” in the truest sense of the word, that you are not used to these types of things.

I guess you never visited the Holocaust Museum in DC, the Nanjing Massacre Museum in Jiangsu, the Tower of London, I could go on and on. Some humans are “inhumane.” Read some more history, and in doing so you realize how beautiful compassion and humanity are, simply because they are not a given.

If you have experienced some horror before, you are able to see something like this despicable murder less as isolated incident, and more as a metaphor for some of the sickening characteristics of man, and it doesn’t shatter your world view.

Having said that, I don’t encourage anyone to watch the video.

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What museum would display anything nearly as graphic as this video? I don’t think they are allowed to. And reading history books are somehow less shocking than video.

I went to the Holocaust Museum in 6th grade…

Seeing something like this in person, I would probably scream really loud while unloading my clip on everyone in sight, stand for a second contemplating suicide, drop my weapon, then go into shock and sit there on the ground, rocking back and forth, while drooling on myself and mumbling incomprehensible shit for the next hour.

Let’s not kid ourselves.

This video is the most graphic thing I have EVER seen.

The wierdest part is that most of really horrific and cruel things happen in Ukraine… Really im scared to go there and I was thinking of going on a road trip to Amsterdam through Ukraine… I mean even the movie " hostel " took place in Ukraine… I always thought those guys lived in Russia, well now it makes more sense, although Russians are pretty much the same…

Mafia killing caught on security camera - Just a shooting, thought I’d share, not gruesome.